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1. 07:22 AM - Wednesday DOTH? (Richard Iddon)
2. 08:10 AM - Berube conventional gear (William McClellan)
3. 08:55 AM - Re: Wednesday DOTH? (Trevpond@aol.com)
4. 10:26 AM - Re: Berube conventional gear (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
5. 10:51 AM - Re: Wednesday DOTH? (Richard Iddon)
6. 11:05 AM - Re: Berube conventional gear (Graham Singleton)
7. 12:09 PM - Re: Berube conventional gear (Fred Klein)
8. 12:26 PM - Re: Wednesday DOTH? (William Harrison)
9. 02:25 PM - Antenna routing without effecting pitch trim indicator ()
10. 02:56 PM - Re: Antenna routing without effecting pitch trim indicator (rampil)
11. 03:55 PM - Re: Berube conventional gear (grroberts3@juno.com)
12. 04:19 PM - Re: Berube conventional gear (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
13. 07:54 PM - Re: Berube conventional gear (rparigoris)
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Anyone for a DOTH tomorrow? Weather looks good. I don't have any of
the mags for free landings so am open to suggestions. If all else fails
how about Halfpenny Green?
Please reply if you would like to go as I will find something else to do
if no-one else is going.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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| Subject: | Berube conventional gear |
Hello group, after retiring, moving, traveling and a 3 year absence I am coming
up to speed back working on my Europa again. This is my first post in the matronics
system.
I am just finishing installing my Berube conventional gear mod. I am dealing with
the subsequent re-setup of the flap operation, i.e., deciding on electric or mechanical
actuation. I am leaning toward mechanical. And how to make use of my now unused
monowheel open space. The gear is raked about a foot and intended to be raked
forward
but Bob Berube told me it might be acceptable to put the rake rearward. I will
have to evaluate each positions stability and tendency to ground loop. The gear
is one piece and hangs just below the fuselage so should be fared in. I believe
I will develop wheel pants. I know this is a somewhat general question but I am
asking for suggestions (or pitfalls) and maybe pictures from those who have gone
before.
Thanks,
Bill McClellan
Jabaru powered 164XS
So Cal
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| Subject: | Re: Wednesday DOTH? |
Hi Richard,
I'm in.
regards
Trev Pond
G-LINN
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| Subject: | Re: Berube conventional gear |
William,
The axle line relative to the CG position is quite far forward on the mono
Europa, which puts quite a load on the tailwheel. However, this is one
aspect of the Europa that the Factory were very happy with. It certainly
reduces the tendency to nose-over.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William McClellan" <wilwood@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:02 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
>
> <wilwood@earthlink.net>
>
> Hello group, after retiring, moving, traveling and a 3 year absence I am
> coming
> up to speed back working on my Europa again. This is my first post in the
> matronics
> system.
>
> I am just finishing installing my Berube conventional gear mod. I am
> dealing with
> the subsequent re-setup of the flap operation, i.e., deciding on electric
> or mechanical
> actuation. I am leaning toward mechanical. And how to make use of my now
> unused
> monowheel open space. The gear is raked about a foot and intended to be
> raked forward
> but Bob Berube told me it might be acceptable to put the rake rearward. I
> will
> have to evaluate each positions stability and tendency to ground loop.
> The gear
> is one piece and hangs just below the fuselage so should be fared in. I
> believe
> I will develop wheel pants. I know this is a somewhat general question
> but I am
> asking for suggestions (or pitfalls) and maybe pictures from those who
> have gone
> before.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill McClellan
> Jabaru powered 164XS
> So Cal
>
>
>
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OK. Halfpenny Green it is then. See you at around 12 as usual.
Richard.
G-RIXS
Do not archive
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Sent: 11 November 2008 16:52
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wednesday DOTH?
Hi Richard,
I'm in.
regards
Trev Pond
G-LINN
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11/10/2008 8:58 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Berube conventional gear |
William,
> The axle line relative to the CG position is quite far forward on the
> mono Europa, which puts quite a load on the tailwheel. However, this
> is one aspect of the Europa that the Factory were very happy with. It
> certainly reduces the tendency to nose-over.
>
> Duncan McF.
But certainly increases the tendency to ground loop, which often dings
the prop :-(
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Berube conventional gear |
On Tuesday, November 11, 2008, at 08:02 AM, William McClellan wrote:
> I believe I will develop wheel pants.
William,
If memory serves, I believe I once heard that the pants used on the
trigear are those which Bob B. originally designed and molded for his
conventional gear conversion.
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Wednesday DOTH? |
Richard
Me too
Willie
On 11 Nov 2008, at 16:52, Trevpond@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> I'm in.
>
>
> regards
>
>
> Trev Pond
> G-LINN
>
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| Subject: | Antenna routing without effecting pitch trim indicator |
Was wondering specifics on wiring, how not to have radio transmission
effect pitch trim indicator?
Use of twisted Steinair servo wire?
Use shielded signal wire for indicator perhaps? Where to get or how to
make?
RG400 versus RG58?
Will have a Bob Archer antenna in rudder.
Thx. in advance.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Antenna routing without effecting pitch trim indicator |
I never noticed any RFI on my trim indicator even though I have
rg58u bundled all the way out past the trim motor/sensor.
Keep in mind Ron that the trim motor runs slowly and seldom will
you need to watch it move on the indicator while transmitting.
I use the trim indicator mostly to set takeoff trim, and feel to set
trim in flight.
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=213581#213581
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| Subject: | Re: Berube conventional gear |
Van's RV8 wheel pants seem to fit fine.
GRoberts
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:02:47 -0800 Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
writes:
> <fklein@orcasonline.com>
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> On Tuesday, November 11, 2008, at 08:02 AM, William McClellan
> wrote:
>
> > I believe I will develop wheel pants.
>
> William,
>
> If memory serves, I believe I once heard that the pants used on the
>
> trigear are those which Bob B. originally designed and molded for
> his
> conventional gear conversion.
>
> Fred
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Berube conventional gear |
> But certainly increases the tendency to ground loop, which often dings the
> prop<
That would be true for the monowheel, with its unhelpful outrigger geometry
(i.e.outrigger axes well behind the mainwheel axle).
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Singleton" <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
>
> <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
> William,
>> The axle line relative to the CG position is quite far forward on the
>> mono Europa, which puts quite a load on the tailwheel. However, this is
>> one aspect of the Europa that the Factory were very happy with. It
>> certainly reduces the tendency to nose-over.
>>
>> Duncan McF.
> But certainly increases the tendency to ground loop, which often dings the
> prop :-(
> Graham
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Berube conventional gear |
Hi Duncan
"That would be true for the monowheel, with its unhelpful outrigger geometry
(i.e.outrigger axes well behind the mainwheel axle)."
Perhaps we should be thinking in terms of "Applied Arcaic Technology" and actually
attach a couple of axes forward on wing tips like WW1 Bi/Tri planes for beginners
(and those well experianced)! Kinda sortta in line with main wheel.
Real men need not be scared to hit brake if you are not going absolute straight!!
(Well, let's make that not too scared if you have training axes)
Do not arcive
Ron Parigoris
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