Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:30 AM - Tuesday DOTH (Richard Iddon)
2. 03:55 AM - Elevator Trim (Kingsley Hurst)
3. 04:12 AM - Re: Elevator Trim (Graham Singleton)
4. 04:35 AM - Re: Elevator Trim (Kingsley Hurst)
5. 05:04 AM - Re: Elevator Trim (Paul McAllister)
6. 06:34 AM - Re: Tuesday DOTH (Robert C Harrison)
7. 09:47 AM - Re: Elevator Trim ()
8. 09:57 AM - Re: Tuesday DOTH (Steve Pitt)
9. 10:27 AM - Berube conventional gear (William McClellan)
10. 10:38 AM - Re: Berube conventional gear (Gary Leinberger)
11. 12:43 PM - Re: Berube conventional gear (Mike Parkin)
12. 12:46 PM - Re: Elevator Trim (Frans Veldman)
13. 12:56 PM - Re: Berube conventional gear (Gary Leinberger)
14. 02:40 PM - Re: Berube conventional gear (Tim Houlihan)
15. 03:21 PM - Europa factory web site missing???? (Bill Henderson)
16. 03:35 PM - Europa factory web site missing???? (R Holder)
17. 03:46 PM - Re: Europa factory web site missing???? (Rick Stockton)
18. 04:04 PM - Re: Europa factory web site missing???? ()
19. 04:11 PM - Re: Berube conventional gear (Karl Heindl)
20. 04:28 PM - Re: Europa factory web site missing???? (rlborger)
21. 04:50 PM - Tach Question (Troy Maynor)
22. 06:19 PM - Re: Remote Oil Pressure (rlborger)
23. 11:47 PM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Tach_Question? (Carl Pattinson)
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Hi Folks.
Looking at the weather Tuesday looks like being the best day this week.
Any else fancy a DOTH? I haven't been to Sywell before but the pilot
reports look good so, unless anyone has a better idea, I propose to be
there around 12 as usual.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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Just wondering if anybody has installed the trim wheel available at
www.PerihelionDesign.com/moreproducts.htm second item down the page.
If so, would be interested to know how you have found it.
This device turns the electric MAC elevator trim from a time based control
to a positional control like in Cessnas etc.
Cheers
Kingsley in Oz
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Trim |
Kingsley Hurst wrote:
> <hurstkr@redzone.com.au>
>
> Just wondering if anybody has installed the trim wheel available at
> www.PerihelionDesign.com/moreproducts.htm second item down the page.
>
> If so, would be interested to know how you have found it.
>
> This device turns the electric MAC elevator trim from a time based
> control to a positional control like in Cessnas etc.
>
> Cheers
> Kingsley in Oz
Sounds like a very good plan,Kingsley. The MAC/Europa trim control is
very fierce.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Trim |
> Sounds like a very good plan,Kingsley. The MAC/Europa trim control is very
> fierce.
> Graham
Yes Graham, it reads good but I don't yet know the physical size of it or
it's cost.
I would prefer the wheel to the standard set-up not that I am saying there
is anything wrong with the latter. . . I already have it installed !
Hope you're keeping well Ole mate!
Kingsley
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Trim |
Hi Kingsley,
I can echo Grahams comment about the trim, but I approached the
problem a little differently. Matt Dralle, the guy who runs this
forum sells a small device that allows you to adjust the speed of the
MAC servo. It works really nicely and I can recommend it.
Regards, Paul
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Hi! Richard
Sorry ..can't make it tomorrow since it is Jan's second Chemo day and my
Radiologist Review.
Regards
Bob H
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Iddon
Sent: 17 November 2008 09:28
Subject: Europa-List: Tuesday DOTH
Hi Folks.
Looking at the weather Tuesday looks like being the best day this week.
Any else fancy a DOTH? I haven't been to Sywell before but the pilot
reports look good so, unless anyone has a better idea, I propose to be
there around 12 as usual.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Trim |
Hi Kingsley
Here is another interesting item that would probably work on a Europa:
http://www.steinair.com/trim.htm
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Tuesday DOTH |
Richard,
I have 'DOTH planned' for tomorrow but I have to carry out my permit
renewal so hope I can manage both.
Regards
Steve Pitt
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert C Harrison
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tuesday DOTH
Hi! Richard
Sorry ..can't make it tomorrow since it is Jan's second Chemo day and
my Radiologist Review.
Regards
Bob H
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Iddon
Sent: 17 November 2008 09:28
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: Tuesday DOTH
Hi Folks.
Looking at the weather Tuesday looks like being the best day this
week. Any else fancy a DOTH? I haven't been to Sywell before but the
pilot reports look good so, unless anyone has a better idea, I propose
to be there around 12 as usual.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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| Subject: | Berube conventional gear |
Thanks for the on and off line replies. Bob has sold 15 conventional gear mods
in US and some more worldwide. The monowheel space is rather large to waste.
How have you converted the space for use?
Thanks,
Bill McClellan
164XS
SoCal
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| Subject: | Berube conventional gear |
How about a small bomb payload - I think for our British cousins that will almost
double the bomb load carrying capacity of the RAF?
gl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William McClellan
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:27 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
--> <wilwood@earthlink.net>
Thanks for the on and off line replies. Bob has sold 15 conventional gear mods
in US and some more worldwide. The monowheel space is rather large to waste.
How have you converted the space for use?
Thanks,
Bill McClellan
164XS
SoCal
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| Subject: | Berube conventional gear |
Its quality not quantity that counts! See
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1467470/US-bomber-misses-target-for-f
lypast-at-air-show.html
Oops!!!
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Leinberger
Sent: 17 November 2008 18:36
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
<Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu>
How about a small bomb payload - I think for our British cousins that will
almost double the bomb load carrying capacity of the RAF?
gl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
McClellan
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:27 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
--> <wilwood@earthlink.net>
Thanks for the on and off line replies. Bob has sold 15 conventional gear
mods in US and some more worldwide. The monowheel space is rather large to
waste. How have you converted the space for use?
Thanks,
Bill McClellan
164XS
SoCal
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Trim |
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
>
> Hi Kingsley
>
> Here is another interesting item that would probably work on a Europa:
> http://www.steinair.com/trim.htm
Except that it is a switch behind a switch, i.e. moving the "stuck
switch" scenario further down the chain, to a "stuck steinar" scenario.
In simplicity and reliability there is not much that can improve upon
the original Europa trim design. Any additional electrical component can
fail as well. What's next? Another product to guard againts the Steinar
"broken on/of/reverse" switch and against the Steinar "stuck 3 minutes
timer"? ;-)
Frans
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| Subject: | Berube conventional gear |
We could use a Europa bomber wing here in the U.S. since Congress has spent all
the money and bankrupted the country - I think we can now afford 2 or maybe 3
Raptors - so the Europa, with the optional bomb compartment may be a significant
addition to our fleet - as for missing targets, that's why we have B-52s -
gl
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Parkin
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 3:43 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
--> <mikenjulie.parkin@btinternet.com>
Its quality not quantity that counts! See
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1467470/US-bomber-misses-target-for-f
lypast-at-air-show.html
Oops!!!
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Leinberger
Sent: 17 November 2008 18:36
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
<Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu>
How about a small bomb payload - I think for our British cousins that will almost
double the bomb load carrying capacity of the RAF?
gl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William McClellan
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:27 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
--> <wilwood@earthlink.net>
Thanks for the on and off line replies. Bob has sold 15 conventional gear mods
in US and some more worldwide. The monowheel space is rather large to waste.
How have you converted the space for use?
Thanks,
Bill McClellan
164XS
SoCal
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| Subject: | Re: Berube conventional gear |
Nothing new here then.
Some years ago I attended an airshow at the Woodford aerodrome ( the
home of AVRO aircraft) the weather was not good and the announcer made a
great thing of the F111's advanced avionics giving it all weather
capability, he kept this up for an extended period claiming that it was
carrying out a high speed flypast ! nothing was seen, after some time
we heard that Manchester international airport had reported a very high
speed aircraft had flown the length of its runway at low level.
Oops
Mike Parkin wrote:
>
> Its quality not quantity that counts! See
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1467470/US-bomber-misses-target-for-f
> lypast-at-air-show.html
>
> Oops!!!
>
>
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Leinberger
> Sent: 17 November 2008 18:36
> To: 'europa-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
>
> <Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu>
>
> How about a small bomb payload - I think for our British cousins that will
> almost double the bomb load carrying capacity of the RAF?
>
>
> gl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
> McClellan
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 1:27 PM
> To: Europa-List@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear
>
> --> <wilwood@earthlink.net>
>
> Thanks for the on and off line replies. Bob has sold 15 conventional gear
> mods in US and some more worldwide. The monowheel space is rather large to
> waste. How have you converted the space for use?
> Thanks,
> Bill McClellan
> 164XS
> SoCal
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Europa factory web site missing???? |
Anyone know what happened to the Europa factory web site? Did it
disappear or is it me???????
Bill
A010 Classic Monowheel
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| Subject: | Europa factory web site missing???? |
Bill Henderson wrote:
> Anyone know what happened to the Europa factory web site? Did it
> disappear or is it me???????
I believe they (Swift) announced that it would appear in a
new format this week.
The old format has gone, and the new one isn't quite right !
I guess they are using myserverworld.com and haven't set
up the auto entries - or something.
I am sure someone will twig and let us know soon !
Richard Holder
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| Subject: | Re: Europa factory web site missing???? |
http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/
-
Looks like it down
--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Bill Henderson <europabill@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Bill Henderson <europabill@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Europa factory web site missing????
<europabill@bellsouth.net>
Anyone know what happened to the Europa factory web site? Did it
disappear or is it me???????
Bill
A010 Classic Monowheel
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| Subject: | Re: Europa factory web site missing???? |
"Anyone know what happened to the Europa factory web site?"
This one appears to be dead:
http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/
But this one appears to be alive:
http://www.europa-aircraft.biz/
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Berube conventional gear |
Hi Bill=2C
I made good use of the mono-wheelbay: But first I modified the instrument m
odule by making a recess in the mid-section=2C as a lot of space behind the
re is just wasted. This then makes room for the fingerbrakes on top of the
tunnel (non-standard mod) and a few other gadgets=2C and leaving room for a
large clip-on lid on top of the tunnel. The bottom of the bay and the fron
t bulkhead are made out of lexan. So I have a window for aerial photography
=2C and an easy inspection of the nosewheel suspension. I have easy access
to the fuel and brake lines=2C and coax cables and rudder cables=2C all of
which are attached to the interior walls.I even have the controls for the g
lider wing airbrakes in there. I use the extra space mainly for keeping my
maps and other flying gear.
This winter I am modifying the floor window so that it can be opened. So I
could lob a few handgranades if I felt like it.
Karl
> Date: Mon=2C 17 Nov 2008 13:26:57 -0500> From: wilwood@earthlink.net> To:
Europa-List@matronics.com> Subject: Europa-List: Berube conventional gear>
net>> > Thanks for the on and off line replies. Bob has sold 15 conventiona
l gear mods in US and some more worldwide. The monowheel space is rather la
rge to waste. How have you converted the space for use?> Thanks=2C> Bill Mc
=======================> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Europa factory web site missing???? |
Fellow Europaphiles:
You may now find our beloved aircraft web site at:
http://www.europa-aircraft.com/
Found it through the Swift Technology Group website, the new owners of
Europa.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.99% done) Checking off the last few items on the final check list.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Nov 17, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Bill Henderson wrote:
> >
>
> Anyone know what happened to the Europa factory web site? Did it
> disappear or is it me???????
>
> Bill
> A010 Classic Monowheel
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Hi Folks,
Anyone ever hook up the recommended tach that goes with a Rotax 912 in
parallel with one that's part of an engine monitor? My panel was built and
wired a few years ago with the Mitchell tach in addition to an Audio Flight
Avionic engine monitoring system. I am now wiring the engine to firewall and
want to use both. Do I need diodes or something?
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Seats, engine install underway, some wiring.
Weaverville, NC USA
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| Subject: | Re: Remote Oil Pressure |
Troy,
Go to my build website, Year #6, Q3, 2007. First page has my work on
moving the oil pressure sensor to the starboard footwell. You are on
your own for the pressure switch though.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.99% done) Checking off the last few items on the final check list.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Nov 16, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Troy Maynor wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> I need help from those of you that have remotely mounted your oil
> pressure
> switch. Can you tell me the size of the fittings and hose and/or
> manifold
> that you used to connect? I plan to mount it on the stbd. footwell
> along
> with a double throw pressure switch that will run a hobbs or the
> master
> light on.
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Troy Maynor
> N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
> Left to finish:
> Seats, engine install underway, some wiring.
> Weaverville, NC USA
>
> <winmail.dat>
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| Subject: | =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Tach_Question? |
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Ours was done some while ago (Grand Rapids). I didnt wire the panel myself
but as far as I know there is no special arrangement. The GR installation
manual makes no reference to the need for diodes etc.
One small isue is that our Rotax analogue gauge under reads by about 300 RPM
but this may just be the meter. I believe there is an adjusting screw in the
back but we never bothered to change it. One of those little jobs that never
seems to get done.
Carl Pattinson
G-LABS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 12:34 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Tach Question
> Hi Folks,
> Anyone ever hook up the recommended tach that goes with a Rotax 912 in
> parallel with one that's part of an engine monitor? My panel was built and
> wired a few years ago with the Mitchell tach in addition to an Audio
> Flight
> Avionic engine monitoring system. I am now wiring the engine to firewall
> and
> want to use both. Do I need diodes or something?
>
>
> Troy Maynor
> N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
> Left to finish:
> Seats, engine install underway, some wiring.
> Weaverville, NC USA
>
>
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