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Wed 11/26/08


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     0. 12:08 AM - Just A Few More Days... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 11:35 AM - Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI (steve v)
     2. 12:24 PM - Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI (Tim Ward)
     3. 12:42 PM - Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI (steve v)
     4. 12:51 PM - Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI (timward)
     5. 02:10 PM - Re: Re: Europa - Extra Gas/ Instrument Rating. (William Harrison)
     6. 03:02 PM - Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI (ALAN YERLY)
     7. 04:29 PM - Re: Europa - Extra Gas/ Instrument Rating. (rampil)
     8. 04:36 PM - Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI (rampil)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:08:14 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Just A Few More Days...
    Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's plenty still available. Don't forget that its *your* Contribution that keeps the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling! If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take a minute right now to make your personal Contribution? Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Personal Check: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle


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    Time: 11:35:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI
    From: "steve v " <s@vestuti.orangehome.co.uk>
    Hi, I seem to be getting an increase in RF Interference on transmit since fitting the Airmaster AP337 Prop. & AC200 Controller, has anyone fitted or experimented with Ferrite Cores on the cabling to reduce this or, should i be looking elswhere? Receive is fine, Steve #573 G-CEBV Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org


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    Time: 12:24:21 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI
    Steve, Martin, from Airmaster, told me to 'ground wire' the base of the AC 200 controller unit somewhere. Worked with my one. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton, Christchurch NEW ZEALAND PH 0064 3 3515166 MOB 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve v " <s@vestuti.orangehome.co.uk> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 8:33 AM Subject: Europa-List: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI > > Hi, I seem to be getting an increase in RF Interference on transmit since > fitting the Airmaster AP337 Prop. & AC200 Controller, has anyone fitted > or experimented with Ferrite Cores on the cabling to reduce this or, > should i be looking elswhere? Receive is fine, > > Steve #573 G-CEBV > > > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > >


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    Time: 12:42:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI
    From: "steve v " <s@vestuti.orangehome.co.uk>
    Tim, Do i still use the power conector ground or cut it, and use the new casing ground cable? Steve #573 G-CEBV Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org


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    Time: 12:51:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI
    From: "timward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Steve, No don't cut the earth. Just earth the base of the unit. Tim Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org


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    Time: 02:10:35 PM PST US
    From: William Harrison <willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Europa - Extra Gas/ Instrument Rating.
    These are good subjects to link as concentrating on IFR flying with a full bladder is 10x harder than when VFR. I used to use a "Littlejohn" in the PA 28 but the seat angle and cockpit size of the Europa makes this impractical... Anyway guys, I heard a rumour that our glider pilot brothers use a kind of exterior catheter device (designed for incontinent men) to enable them to do in-flight defuelling. Leaving aside the toilet humour associated with this, does anyone know anything about this? Willie Harrison G-BZNY: another 20 hours this month On 20 Nov 2008, at 16:19, rampil wrote: > > Hey Bud! > > Ya know, if you fit a long range tank to my Europa, > I can get my buddies to fit you with your own long range tank! > > ;-) > > ijr > > -------- > Ira N224XS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=215347#215347 > >


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    Time: 03:02:08 PM PST US
    From: "ALAN YERLY" <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI
    Steve, I don't use the ferrite cores anymore. Sorry. I have found that any Integrated Circuit device in an instrument panel running near the coax antenna cables or your com leads is suspect. I learned my lessons with the Blue Mountain and the early video display EFIS units. Those of us who have chased noise before have learned to do the following: Shield any com wire or com component completely with the shields of all com leads grounded together at the radio exactly as the manufacturer calls for. Those convenient grounds for Com Low or PTT can cause trouble. Do not run any component with a voltage regulator or IC circuit or their in/outputs parallel with com wires or radio back without shielding or ample separation. That includes the Airmaster controller. I would suspect the power/ground wires may be near a com lead. You may need to shield the power wires but I doubt it. Try a simple shield ground to the case on an Airmaster controller as a start. That will tell you who the culprit is and may even do the trick. I've never had the Airmaster cause noise I could hear, but I've always practiced the above. Check that you haven't re-arranged other wires when installing the Airmaster controller which would make a here to for unknown problem rear its head. Good Luck, You'll enjoy the prop. Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations ----- Original Message ----- From: steve v <mailto:s@vestuti.orangehome.co.uk> To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:33 PM Subject: Europa-List: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI <s@vestuti.orangehome.co.uk<mailto:s@vestuti.orangehome.co.uk>> Hi, I seem to be getting an increase in RF Interference on transmit since fitting the Airmaster AP337 Prop. & AC200 Controller, has anyone fitted or experimented with Ferrite Cores on the cabling to reduce this or, should i be looking elswhere? Receive is fine, Steve #573 G-CEBV Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org<http://www.europaowners.org/> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List<http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?Europa-List>


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    Time: 04:29:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa - Extra Gas/ Instrument Rating.
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Believe it or not, it is called a "Texas" catheter, as opposed to the indwelling "Foley" catheter. Available at your local pharmacy. I don't imagine it requires a physician's prescription to purchase. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=216470#216470


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    Time: 04:36:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Use of Ferrite Cores & RFI
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Do you still have RFI when you pull the breaker on the Prop Control? Do you have noise when the engine is off? Do you have noise when the prop is changing pitch? Respectively these circumstances could implicate the control box, the brush plate, or the pitch motor. If you really want diagnostic help, then it would be helpful to provide a useful amount of information. Bud: Ferrite beads and cores have been tremendously oversold as a panacea, but for specific applications and circumstances they are champs. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=216473#216473




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