---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/29/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:24 AM - What Listers Have Been Saying (Matt Dralle) 1. 03:30 AM - AW: speaking of starters (UVTReith) 2. 03:56 AM - Re: speaking of starters (JR Gowing) 3. 09:41 AM - Switches, breakers and buss on headrest (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us) 4. 10:38 AM - speaking of starters (Fred Klein) 5. 12:16 PM - Re: speaking of starters (Greg Fuchs) 6. 01:42 PM - rudder cable pulley mounting (Rowland & Wilma Carson) 7. 02:20 PM - Re: rudder cable pulley mounting (Robert C Harrison) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:24:38 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: What Listers Have Been Saying Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the Lists to you... There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick up a great gift at the same time! By Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or By Personal Check: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550-7227 Thank you in advance!! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their personal Contributions this year... 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Hans-Peter R Great List Bryan K Such a great selection of valuable forums! David G Nice job! Walt E Good resource... Robert P Thank you for another great year! Scott S I could not do this without you... Robert D I believe I've been a list member for over a decade now. Thanks for the service! Tim L Great List Hendrik W ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:51 AM PST US From: "UVTReith" Subject: AW: Europa-List: speaking of starters She is not starting the engine, she is doing - what women always do - washing the prop. Have a nice weekend, Europa friends. Bruno -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Fred Klein Gesendet: Samstag, 29. November 2008 05:32 An: europa-list@matronics.com Betreff: Europa-List: speaking of starters Who needs one?...why not just hand-prop it? BTW, what's wrong with this picture? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:04 AM PST US From: "JR Gowing" Subject: Re: Europa-List: speaking of starters Craig You didn't even notice she did not have a proper grip with both hands!. JR Do Not Archive ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "craig bastin" Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 4:17 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: speaking of starters > > oh oh i know, shes not wearing any gloves to protect her hands :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Klein > Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 2:32 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: speaking of starters > > > Who needs one?...why not just hand-prop it? > > BTW, what's wrong with this picture? > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > 7:31 PM > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 7:31 PM -- We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. The Professional version does not have this message ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:20 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Switches, breakers and buss on headrest From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Has anyone installed switches, breakers and a buss on aft side of passenger headrest? Have any pictures of install? We will have an aft mounted battery in our mono wheel, and it seems a nice spot to install a buss with: Two 914 fuel pump switch/breakers Strobe switch/breaker Position LED switch/breaker Breaker for two map LEDs on ceiling (switch next to each LED) ELT breaker (mounted aft) Easy to see and reach by left seat driver. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:40 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: speaking of starters From: Fred Klein Gentlemen, What's wrong w/ that picture?...NO CHOCKS!... ALWAYS chock the wheels before hand proping!...safety first! Fred do not archive > Craig > You didn't even notice she did not have a proper grip with both hands!. > JR -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:51 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: speaking of starters OH YEAH, that's IT! Safety is job 1. I thought there was one too many cockpits on the aircraft.. For goodness sakes, do NOT archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: Europa-List: speaking of starters Gentlemen, What's wrong w/ that picture?...NO CHOCKS!... ALWAYS chock the wheels before hand proping!...safety first! Fred do not archive > Craig > You didn't even notice she did not have a proper grip with both hands!. > JR -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:42 PM PST US From: Rowland & Wilma Carson Subject: Europa-List: rudder cable pulley mounting I've just drilled the holes for the rudder pulley and the inboard harness attachment, and am a bit surprised to find that when the pulley is mounted, it doesn't look anything like the drawing in the manual. The picture shows the pulley well clear of the harness mounting hole, but I find that it overlaps the bolt head completely. I thought I'd fallen into another of those "printed manual is wrong, should have checked the PDF first" traps, but the PDF is the same as my hard-copy. My pulley does align with the edges of the cockpit module tunnel in the recommended way - about flush at the aft, and about 6mm clear of the bottom surface. The manual suggests 3 spacing washers (AN960-10) as a starting point for pulley placement. That does put the pulley clear of the harness-fixing bolt head, but if one of those were removed it would be rubbing, so there is not much adjustment of position available. The smallest washer pack that I think would be OK here is 2 off AN960-10 + 1 off AN960-10L. Any comments on this? Has anyone found the need to reduce the washer pack much to get good rudder cable alignment? regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson LAA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/ | 1170 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:49 PM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: rudder cable pulley mounting Hi! Rowland The rudder cable must never be able to drop between the bolt head and the pulley and likewise if the pulley bore should wear it mustn't rub on the bolt head. Alignment will be by the rubbing strip forward and where your aft guide will be so as to have an absolutely fair entry and exit of the cable onto and from the pulley.IMHO Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland & Wilma Carson Sent: 29 November 2008 17:58 Subject: Europa-List: rudder cable pulley mounting I've just drilled the holes for the rudder pulley and the inboard harness attachment, and am a bit surprised to find that when the pulley is mounted, it doesn't look anything like the drawing in the manual. The picture shows the pulley well clear of the harness mounting hole, but I find that it overlaps the bolt head completely. I thought I'd fallen into another of those "printed manual is wrong, should have checked the PDF first" traps, but the PDF is the same as my hard-copy. My pulley does align with the edges of the cockpit module tunnel in the recommended way - about flush at the aft, and about 6mm clear of the bottom surface. The manual suggests 3 spacing washers (AN960-10) as a starting point for pulley placement. That does put the pulley clear of the harness-fixing bolt head, but if one of those were removed it would be rubbing, so there is not much adjustment of position available. The smallest washer pack that I think would be OK here is 2 off AN960-10 + 1 off AN960-10L. Any comments on this? Has anyone found the need to reduce the washer pack much to get good rudder cable alignment? regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson LAA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/ | 1170 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.