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1. 01:58 AM - UMA tacho (Paul Stewart)
2. 02:01 AM - long range tank not good (Remi Guerner)
3. 03:49 AM - Re: long range tank not good (Kingsley Hurst)
4. 04:22 AM - Re: long range tank not good (Robert Borger)
5. 08:15 AM - Re: long range tank not good (Jeremy Davey)
6. 10:18 AM - Re: Mod 72 (Paul Boulet)
7. 10:28 AM - Re: long range tank not good (Jerry Rehn)
8. 10:29 AM - Re: Monowheel Landing Gear Question? (rparigoris)
9. 11:11 AM - Re: UMA tacho (rampil)
10. 11:48 AM - Re: Mod 72 (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
11. 01:43 PM - Re: europe-only - pilot licensing changes (Robert C Harrison)
12. 05:29 PM - Starter relay, missing a thumb (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
13. 09:22 PM - Re: Starter relay, missing a thumb (Rick Stockton)
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So far failed miserably to get our Rotax tach working. Can folk vouch
for the UMA version before I fork out more cash?
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
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Subject: | long range tank not good |
Hello all,
I do not know how many builders are using the monowheel long ranger
tank, but I am surprised not to receive any response on the forum
regarding my previous message below. May be I have got the only bad tank
and cap supplied by the factory! Again the problem is the cap which fits
badly to the tank opening. It is almost like screwing an AN6 nut to an
AN5 bolt. Comments and suggestions welcome.
Regards
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
Subject: Europa-List: long range tank not good
Hello all,
I have received my long range tank recently and am preparing it for
installation. The cap does not fit well and it leaks. I took some
measurements of the threads on both the cap and the tank. The outer
diameter of the male thread on the tank varies between 63,8 mm and 64,6
mm while the inner diameter of the thread on the cap varies between 63,3
and 63,9 mm. For the screwing to be effective the diameter of the cap
thread should be about 2 mm smaller than it is. Obviously this is very
bad and as a result the cap can be removed just by pulling it
vertically. There is no way I could use this tank safely as it is.
I have questioned the factory but up to now the response has not been
satisfactory. Has anyone experienced the same problem? Any suggestion?
Regards
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
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Subject: | Re: long range tank not good |
Hello Remi,
If I were you and I was unable to interchange tanks and caps with
another long range tank to identify the faulty component/s, I think I
would ask Europa to send me another cap. If this didn't resolve the
problem, I would send the lot back to Europa for replacement. If you
are lucky enough to find the cap at fault, you would have minimised your
freight costs.
Kingsley in Oz
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Remi Guerner
To: Europa-List Digest Server
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: Europa-List: long range tank not good
Hello all,
I do not know how many builders are using the monowheel long ranger
tank, but I am surprised not to receive any response on the forum
regarding my previous message below. May be I have got the only bad tank
and cap supplied by the factory! Again the problem is the cap which fits
badly to the tank opening. It is almost like screwing an AN6 nut to an
AN5 bolt. Comments and suggestions welcome.
Regards
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
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Subject: | Re: long range tank not good |
Remi,
My long ranger tank is out on loan. When (if) it is ever returned, I'll check
out the dimensions and let you know what they are.
Best regards,
Bob Borger
On Monday, December 01, 2008, at 04:00AM, "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I do not know how many builders are using the monowheel long ranger tank, but
I am surprised not to receive any response on the forum regarding my previous
message below. May be I have got the only bad tank and cap supplied by the factory!
Again the problem is the cap which fits badly to the tank opening. It is
almost like screwing an AN6 nut to an AN5 bolt. Comments and suggestions welcome.
>Regards
>Remi Guerner
>F-PGKL
>
>
>Subject: Europa-List: long range tank not good
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have received my long range tank recently and am preparing it for
>installation. The cap does not fit well and it leaks. I took some
>measurements of the threads on both the cap and the tank. The outer
>diameter of the male thread on the tank varies between 63,8 mm and 64,6
>mm while the inner diameter of the thread on the cap varies between 63,3
>and 63,9 mm. For the screwing to be effective the diameter of the cap
>thread should be about 2 mm smaller than it is. Obviously this is very
>bad and as a result the cap can be removed just by pulling it
>vertically. There is no way I could use this tank safely as it is.
>
>I have questioned the factory but up to now the response has not been
>satisfactory. Has anyone experienced the same problem? Any suggestion?
>
>Regards
>Remi Guerner
>F-PGKL
>
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Subject: | long range tank not good |
Remi,
Something is definitely not right - my LR tank has a tightly fitting cap. Given
the cap is a standard component and the tank is moulded, my first suspicion is
your tank.
I'd continue to try to liaise with the factory, if I was in your shoes. Sorry that's
not ideal news for you.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Borger
Sent: 01 December 2008 12:22
Subject: Re: Europa-List: long range tank not good
Remi,
My long ranger tank is out on loan. When (if) it is ever returned, I'll check
out the dimensions and let you know what they are.
Best regards,
Bob Borger
On Monday, December 01, 2008, at 04:00AM, "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I do not know how many builders are using the monowheel long ranger tank, but
I am surprised not to receive any response on the forum regarding my previous
message below. May be I have got the only bad tank and cap supplied by the factory!
Again the problem is the cap which fits badly to the tank opening. It is
almost like screwing an AN6 nut to an AN5 bolt. Comments and suggestions welcome.
>Regards
>Remi Guerner
>F-PGKL
>
>
>Subject: Europa-List: long range tank not good
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have received my long range tank recently and am preparing it for
>installation. The cap does not fit well and it leaks. I took some
>measurements of the threads on both the cap and the tank. The outer
>diameter of the male thread on the tank varies between 63,8 mm and 64,6
>mm while the inner diameter of the thread on the cap varies between 63,3
>and 63,9 mm. For the screwing to be effective the diameter of the cap
>thread should be about 2 mm smaller than it is. Obviously this is very
>bad and as a result the cap can be removed just by pulling it
>vertically. There is no way I could use this tank safely as it is.
>
>I have questioned the factory but up to now the response has not been
>satisfactory. Has anyone experienced the same problem? Any suggestion?
>
>Regards
>Remi Guerner
>F-PGKL
>
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Thanks Jim; I presume the postage you spend will be on the pkg along with y
our return address?- Want anything for the boxing?- Appreciate it
Paul
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From: jimpuglise@comcast.net <jimpuglise@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72
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Paul Boulet and Roger Rowe --
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I'll- try to get them in the mail this week.- If you haven't done the m
od yet, do exactly as in the instructions and it goes very smoothly.- Abo
ut a 15 minute job. -
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Jim Puglise
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From: "Paul Boulet" <possibletodo@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:23:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72
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I'd like to have on
Paul Boulet
20512 Little Rock Way
Malibu, CA- 90265
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From: jimpuglise@comcast.net <jimpuglise@comcast.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 72
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I have completed Mod. 72 and find that I have two reamers that I no longer
need.- If anyone needs them, the first two mailing address I receive will
get them.- All I ask in return is that you send me a check for the posta
ge cost.-
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Jim Puglise A-283
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Subject: | long range tank not good |
Remi
My tank has worked well and the cap is firm when screwed down. Perhaps there
is someone nearby with a cap you could try? At the very least the factory
should send you a new cap to see if that might first fix the problem.
Regards
Jerry
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Remi Guerner
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:01 AM
Subject: Europa-List: long range tank not good
Hello all,
I do not know how many builders are using the monowheel long ranger tank,
but I am surprised not to receive any response on the forum regarding my
previous message below. May be I have got the only bad tank and cap supplied
by the factory! Again the problem is the cap which fits badly to the tank
opening. It is almost like screwing an AN6 nut to an AN5 bolt. Comments and
suggestions welcome.
Regards
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel Landing Gear Question? |
EuropaOwners has older mods, including Mod 26 under the Download section:
http://www.europaowners.org/dlman.php?func=select_folder&folder_id
I am pretty sure in the older newsletters (not sure if club, probably factory),
probably downloadable from Europa Club there was an article about installing
the dampeners, it helped a lot with preventing a bounce from turning into a prop
strike.
Ron Parigoris
FWIW I was told you can replace the bungi from behind and below after you remove
shock absorber and damper assemble. Adjustment is supposedly a bit hit and miss,
but very dooable. I was also told to leave a tail on top on end of bungee,
so if the bungee gets weak you can retension it.
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Hi Paul,
I have a UMA "Rotax" tach working fine as a tach. The internal hobbs
switch however has never worked. The tach has been working for at
least 60 hr. If you purchase one, be sure to put a connector on the 5
wire lead set coming from the unit rather than direct wiring like I did.
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217195#217195
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Paul -
I just packaged them.=C2- I used some foam envelopes intended for CD/DVD'
s.=C2- The return address is on the envelope.=C2- If you can't read it
when it gets there, I can get it to you over the net.=C2- I will go to th
e post office tomorrow.=C2- If it is full of Christmas people (Bah - Humb
ug!) I may go sometime later.=C2-=C2-=C2-
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Boulet" <possibletodo@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2008 1:13:02 PM (GMT-0500) Auto-Detected
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72
Thanks Jim; I presume the postage you spend will be on the pkg along with y
our return address?=C2- Want anything for the boxing?=C2- Appreciate it
Paul
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, jimpuglise@comcast.net <jimpuglise@comcast.net> wrote
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From: jimpuglise@comcast.net <jimpuglise@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72
Paul Boulet and Roger Rowe --
I'll=C2- try to get them in the mail this week.=C2- If you haven't done
the mod yet, do exactly as in the instructions and it goes very smoothly.
=C2- About a 15 minute job. =C2-
Jim Puglise
---- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Boulet" <possibletodo@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:23:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72
I'd like to have on
Paul Boulet
20512 Little Rock Way
Malibu, CA=C2- 90265
--- On Sun, 11/30/08, jimpuglise@comcast.net <jimpuglise@comcast.net> wrote
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From: jimpuglise@comcast.net <jimpuglise@comcast.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 72
I have completed Mod. 72 and find that I have two reamers that I no longer
need.=C2- If anyone needs them, the first two mailing address I receive w
ill get them.=C2- All I ask in return is that you send me a check for the
postage cost.=C2-
Jim Puglise A-283
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Subject: | europe-only - pilot licensing changes |
Hi! Rowland,
I personally would like to thank you for your time and effort in
attending and reporting on the pilot licensing changes you have detailed
below.
Three times I have sat and tried to read through and understand the
specific detail and fallen asleep! IMHO Let's face it these bureaucrats
would prefer us not to fly at all, the juggling has left me in such
state of mind for it to be impossible to reply to them without being
rude. You must be aware of my political leanings on such control from
Europe so I find it no surprise to know of their intent. This is just
another frustration of us not being able to control our own destiny and
I deplore their interference. As much as I've enjoyed my flying for such
few years I find my self feeling sorry for younger generations needing
to dodge through all the regulations that now beset us. Further I need
some serious convincing that so called "consultation" is anything but a
sop for them to say that we had a hand in the ultimate way the industry
is allowed to be aligned into their control. I simply do not believe
that they lend any power to our representations. I see this kind of
disease being applied to how local councils are run .....and as for
"planning applications"........
Now you see I'm ranting and anything further I have to say would be
considered worthless as indeed they would deplore what I say anyway.
In other words for me to attempt to make a representation would probably
undo someone else's constructive work even if this note doesn't anyway!
Regards
Bob Harrison.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland &
Wilma Carson
Sent: 24 November 2008 19:38
Subject: Europa-List: europe-only - pilot licensing changes
<rowil@clara.net>
This is for people in Europe who will be affected by EASA's proposed
changes to pilot licensing. If you are outside EC jurisdiction (or if
you don't care what sort of licence you can have or what it will let
you do) you can skip the rest of this message.
EASA have proposed changes to the pilot licensing system, contained
in Notice of Proposed Amendment 2008-17 and available for download as
3 PDF files from:
http://www.easa.eu.int/ws_prod/r/r_npa.php
Part a is an introduction; b is where the meat is; and c is mostly on
medicals. These documents are many pages long and will require some
effort to read and form comments on. You may want to focus on
subparts A (general), B (LPL) and C (PPL), but there are many other
parts worthy of attention if you can spare the time.
If no-one bothers to respond we'll get what the bureaucrats think is
good for us. (An indication of how much they know about aviation was
the initial insistence during a previous rule-making exercise that
all balloons must have an ASI!)
Note that if there's stuff you like you should say you support it, as
there may be other bodies objecting to it. For instance, there is
probably an organised campaign by AMEs to prevent the adoption of
simpler medical standards which would mean less/lower fees paid to
them! So if you like that part of the Leisure Pilot's Licence (LPL -
based on the UK NPPL) then say so.
On Saturday last (22nd) I attended a seminar at Turweston on these
proposals and with permission reproduce the following parts of the
presentation about the documents and hints on how to comment
effectively.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Part a Explanatory Note
General backgound - read for context
Provides the outline structure and content of the other documents
Contains extensive tables which cross reference every element of the
proposals to the JAA rules, where applicable
Part b FCL
Sub parts:
A General requirements
B Leisure Pilots Licence
C PPL, SPL, BPL
D CPL
E MPL (Multi-crew)
F ATPL
G Instrument Rating (IR)
H Class and Type Ratings
I Additional Ratings
J Instructor Certificates
K Examiner Certificates
Part c Medical
Sub parts:
A General requirements - general, issuance, revalidation,
renewal, revocation, suspension
B Requirements for medical certificates - Class 1 and 2 and LPL
C Requirements for aero-medical examiners
D Requirements for General Medical Practioners
Licence proposals:
PPL A:
No significant change; 17 years; 45 hrs; (25 Dual)
ICAO Medical Class II:
up to age 40 5 years;
40 to 50 2 years; above 50 1 year
LPL A Basic
16 years; 20 hrs (10 Dual); 2000 kg + 1 person, 50 km radius
LPL A
16 years; 30 hrs (15 dual); 2000 kg + 3 persons
LPL Medical
Initial to age 45; 45 to 60 5 years; above 60 1 year
RESPONDING TO EASA NOTICES OF PROPOSED AMENDMENT
KEY POINTS:
EASA does not respond to lobbying
EASA does respond to well structured, well argued, constructive
formal responses to NPAs
EASA will count multiple, duplicated (copied) responses as one
response, where it is obvious that the duplication is deliberate
EASA recognises that the collective opinions of the representative
bodies are important and should be weighted accordingly
The quantity of responses saying essentially the same thing will
count (as long as they are not just "photocopies" using the same
words)
EFFECTIVE RESPONSES:
Are brief, to the point, address the specific question or issue
Provide criticism of the particular that is well argued and based on
the safety case / proportionality
Propose alternative solutions with rational argument, briefly, with a
safety case
Are credible
INEFFECTIVE RESPONSES:
Are rambling, long, or rude, or do not address the point
Do not provide a reasoned alternative
Do not provide a safety argument for the alternative
Technical Aspects in responding:
Your response must be made through the EASA website using the
'Comment Response Tool'
You register first and get a unique code to enable you to go in more
than once
You can draft your responses off-line (and save them!) then paste
them into the CRT on-line
You can go back and amend your responses before the comment deadline
(currently 15 Dec 08 for NPA 17 but expected to be extended further,
shortly)
DON'T LEAVE RESPONDING TO THE LAST MINUTE - IT IS A TIME-CONSUMING
PROCESS
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
As you can see there's only a few weeks before the deadline (and
don't bank on it being extended!). The presenter on Saturday was
David Roberts of the British Gliding Association (BGA) and he told us
that the corporate response of the BGA is published on their website
(sorry, haven't had time to look up the full URL for that, but Google
is your friend in this sort of situation) so you might want to have a
look at that to see how they have approached it. As noted above, do
NOT copy and paste from it into your response. EASA are now using a
very sohisticated software tool to analyse responses and lump
together all those with identical wording, which then count as just
one response.
There is probably further advice and indications of their response on
the LAA website but again I haven't looked yet.
Note that the ratings part of the proposal includes Mountain ratings
which are only for French & Swiss Altiports. Strange that these
country-specific ratings should have found their way in while the UK
IMC rating did not! There are moves afoot to remedy this, but if you
say anything about the need for a "starter" Instrument Rating, please
do not push it as the "British solution" - this will not help your
argument as there is a certain amount of "not invented here" syndrome
to overcome. Push it instead purely on its safety merits.
Please pass this message on to any other UK pilots who may not be on
this forum.
regards
Rowland
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| Rowland Carson LAA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/
| 1160 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
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Subject: | Starter relay, missing a thumb |
Project wiring at the moment.
Seems like I am missing
athumb to becomfortable with easestarting our 914
monowheel.
Anyone have a clevor way of running electrons
through starter relay without needing a spare thumb?
I don't
have a seperate hydraulicparking brake valve, but plan to have a
wedge shape insert to pressurize.
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Re: Starter relay, missing a thumb |
There are a number of switches available that will do what you are asking.
- A key Mag switch with a start on it ASC p/n A-510-2.- A Single pole S
PST-Momentary on MPA-103F OR an3021-1 OR 10-00821 OR 11-103
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
> wrote:
From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Europa-List: Starter relay, missing a thumb
Project wiring at the moment.
Seems like I am missing a-thumb to be-comfortable with ease-starting
our 914 monowheel.
Anyone have a clevor way of running electrons through starter relay without
needing a spare thumb?
I don't have a seperate hydraulic-parking brake valve, but plan to have a
wedge shape insert to pressurize.-
Ron Parigoris
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