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1. 12:31 AM - Re: DOTH Turweston Sat. 6th (Richard Iddon)
2. 06:15 AM - Europa Checklist (Carl Pattinson)
3. 07:51 AM - Re: Europa Checklist (Paul Atkinson)
4. 07:51 AM - Re: Warning. (Hans Siedsma)
5. 08:01 AM - Re: Europa Checklist (Robert Borger)
6. 11:32 AM - [color=red]Advisory of Notice For Sale . . .[/color] (johnb)
7. 11:32 AM - Garmin GTX 328 Mode S Transponder Fitting. (Remi Guerner)
8. 06:32 PM - Re: long range tank not good (Robert Borger)
9. 06:32 PM - Re: finally and at last (Keith Hickling)
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Subject: | DOTH Turweston Sat. 6th |
If I can get out of Barton, I'll be there Paddy.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paddy
Clarke
Sent: 05 December 2008 09:17
Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Turweston Sat. 6th
Hi Folks,
I know we don't usually do DOTHs at the weekend, but at this time of
year I think we should grab the weather while we can. So how about a
DOTH to Turweston tomorrow Saturday 6th.?. Voucher is in Flyer - and
they say you need to call them for PPR and a slot, but it seems there is
no problem, there are plenty available.
There is a new cafe and it should be open - 1200ish as usual. Maybe we
could persuade a few Europa ladies to come!
All the best, Paddy
Paddy Clarke
Europa G-KIMM
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
12/4/2008 9:55 PM
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Subject: | Europa Checklist |
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When we got our Owners Manual from Europa there was a laminated checklist
included which we have used ever since.
Sadly it has been lost somewhere on the airfield and so a replacement is
required. I had a look on the Europa Factory website but couldnt find it.
Anybody have any ideas where we might find a copy. I presume a pdf is
available somewhere - any suggestions?
Carl Pattinson
G-LABS
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Subject: | Europa Checklist |
Carl
You are welcome to have mine. Just let me know where to send it.
Regards
Paul
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Pattinson
Sent: 06 December 2008 14:14
Subject: Europa-List: Europa Checklist
When we got our Owners Manual from Europa there was a laminated checklist
included which we have used ever since.
Sadly it has been lost somewhere on the airfield and so a replacement is
required. I had a look on the Europa Factory website but couldnt find it.
Anybody have any ideas where we might find a copy. I presume a pdf is
available somewhere - any suggestions?
Carl Pattinson
G-LABS
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This is already for years. I remember a couple of years ago flying in France
that I had to make a stop at Le Touget because I could not make the
Netherlands anymore before sun set. It was 19.50 and the airport close at
20.00. I got approval to divert and to land. Airtraffic controler gave me 5
extra minutes so I made it. There was nobody anymore on the airport only one
the firer figther who helpo by parking and closed the gate.
Next morning I was surprised to meet the police and I had to follow him to
his office. Together with an English pilot I was his guest and he informd us
that we got a ticket for a landing without customs declaration.
I could prove that I came from a airport in France so I was lucky but the
English pilot got a penalty of euro 700. Direct to pay and cash. So I can
tell yuo he was not to happy.
There was no customs open that night before, there was no police and their
was no airport authorities available. No excuse, he had to pay.
Be carefull
Hans
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]Namens karelvranken
Verzonden: donderdag 4 december 2008 23:01
Aan: Europa List
Onderwerp: Europa-List: Warning.
Dear Europaphiles,
During the month of october I received a lettre from the Belgian Federal
Police notifying me that for the exit or entrance in the Shengen Countries
we need to use one of the six recognised aerports in Belgium: Brussels,
Antwerp, Lige, Charleroi, Ostend and Kortrijk. Offenders shall be
fined....etc.
Last time I was in England I coasted in at Lydd. There was nobody in the
office nor police nor customs. The other times before I never saw the
customs in Popham, Dunkeswell or Welshpool even when I asked for, several
hours in advance with the adequate form.
I never refuse a control from whatever authority, if they ask me. But why
have I to pay and tell them what I will do with my small aircraft? Is this
European freedom? Why were we upset in Arad (Roumania) or Forli (Italia)
with this officialdom?
To avoid the cost for 4 extra landings (Lydd 15 and Kortrijk 23 Euro) or
approximately 92 Euro for a one day trip to England, I suggested that they
could attach an electronic stamp to my ankle like is done for prisonners in
conditional liberty. They said that is only for light criminals! (Joke)
Best regards,
Karel Vranken, #447 F-PKRL
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Subject: | Re: Europa Checklist |
Carl,
I'm scanning my check list and will have it posted on my website in a
few minutes.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Dec 6, 2008, at 8:13, Carl Pattinson wrote:
> When we got our Owners Manual from Europa there was a laminated
> checklist included which we have used ever since.
>
> Sadly it has been lost somewhere on the airfield and so a
> replacement is required. I had a look on the Europa Factory website
> but couldnt find it.
>
> Anybody have any ideas where we might find a copy. I presume a pdf
> is available somewhere - any suggestions?
>
> Carl Pattinson
> G-LABS
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Subject: | [color=red]Advisory of Notice For Sale . . .[/color] |
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Hello Europaphiles:
Tough times often require tough decisions!
Therefore, I must advise any interested party of the two (2) revised notices of
sale in the, "Looking to Sell", section of this message board. In addition to
the description concerning each opportunity, web page contact has been included.
I truly appreciate the luxury to post this advisory!
Many happy landings . . .
"Thank-U", John B.
[/b:ede897bf5c]
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Garmin GTX 328 Mode S Transponder Fitting. |
Hi,
The GTX 328 uses the 330 rack. I confirm again that the 328 fits ok into
the Europa. For those who still do not believe it, I have attached two
pictures of my instrument panel. My panel module is factory standard.
Sorry I do not have any pics of the back side.
Regards
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
""Hi Mike,
I have the Garmin 330 in G-LINN - fitted in no problem so I wouldn't
have thought
the 328 would be any different in length.
regards
Trev
-----Original Message-----
From: nigel charles <nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 6:12 pm
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Garmin GTX 328 Mode S Transponder Fitting.
This is good to know as I would prefer to use the Garmin transponder but
had been
put off as its quoted depth was more than my Apollo SL40 which is a
close fit
to the firewall. I would be interested to know the depth measurement
from the
outside face of your panel to the firewall so I can see if I can also
fit the
Garmin 328.
?
Regards
?
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Subject: | Re: long range tank not good |
Remi,
My long range tank has been returned. I took some pics to post on my
build website, but it appears that EuropaOwners.org is down again. So
I will pass along some numbers for you and will post the pics when the
site is again functional.
Outside diameter of tank opening threads is 2.55 in. or 64.77 mm.
Inside diameter of the cap threads is 2.5 in. or 63.5 mm.
This provides 0.05 in. or 1.27 mm of thread engagement.
The threads on the tank opening are not perfect and it can be
difficult to put the cap on without cross-threading. But once the
threads have been properly engaged, the cap screws on fairly easily.
Still, it is not a perfect fit. I would not trust the cap to not leak
should the tank end up on its' side or, worse yet, upside down.
My plans no longer call for the use of the long range tank anyway. My
wife has declared that there will NOT be any flight leg longer than
THREE HOURS no matter how long the Europa can fly on available fuel.
So the long range tank is now superfluous for my needs.
I'll let the world know when I am able to post further to
EuropaOwners.org. Not much work done in the last two days anyway.
Too durn cold the last couple mornings. It was 27F/-3C this morning.
And afternoons have been wiped out by other obligations. Perhaps I
can get some work done tomorrow as it is supposed to warm up a bit
before the next cold front comes through around Tuesday (with possible
frozen precipitation).
I need to put the covers on the door latch mechanisms, drill one final
hole in the brake lever to put the last screw in to hold the brake
handle on and do one final weight and balance. Oh, and complete the
final check list. I believe that's it and I can call the Mel Asberry
(FAA/DAR and EAA Tech Rep) to do the final inspections.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Nov 27, 2008, at 6:58, Remi Guerner wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have received my long range tank recently and am preparing it for
> installation. The cap does not fit well and it leaks. I took some
> measurements of the threads on both the cap and the tank. The outer
> diameter of the male thread on the tank varies between 63,8 mm and
> 64,6 mm while the inner diameter of the thread on the cap varies
> between 63,3 and 63,9 mm. For the screwing to be effective the
> diameter of the cap thread should be about 2 mm smaller than it is.
> Obviously this is very bad and as a result the cap can be removed
> just by pulling it vertically. There is no way I could use this tank
> safely as it is.
>
> I have questioned the factory but up to now the response has not
> been satisfactory. Has anyone experienced the same problem? Any
> suggestion?
>
> Regards
> Remi Guerner
> F-PGKL
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Subject: | Re: finally and at last |
Congratulations Danny! It looks fantastic.
Who did the decals for you? And, if it was done with a computer, is there
any chance they could run off a set for me if they still have it on the
computer, and if you wouldn't mind? (I'm in New Zealand so we probably won't
be at the same flyind / DOTHS together very often to get the aircraft mixed
up!).
Please contact me off list if that is a possibility. Could you also email a
photo without you standing in front (nothing personal) so I can see the
middle part, and I'd also be
interested in the cost.
I hope to be joining you in spirit soon after Christmas. Half way through
the upholstery, all painted.
Regards,
Keith Hickling,
Dunedin,
New Zealand.
keithhickling@clear.net.nz
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----- Original Message -----
From: "danny shepherd" <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:01 AM
Subject: Europa-List: finally and at last
> Well folks its finally happened.
> After six years of hard
> labour today at 11.20 G-c.e.r.i. at Caenarfon airport north wales UK.
> piloted by an officer and a gentleman, "Jeff Leeming" took off into that
> great blue yonder. Climbed to 4000ft carried out a stall. The left wing
> dropped quite sharply, but was easily controlled with with right rudder
> and gentle pull back on the stick. We'll have to fit stall strips during
> the testing period. To my amazement every thing worked perfectly!!!!
> Total time for the flight was 25 minutes. When we will get the full test
> complete due to the weather is any ones guess. The forecast for the next
> few weeks does not look too good. ( i blame santa ) But at least we're
> getting there. :-)
> I suppose at this juncture its time to thank a few people. Firstly it
> has to be my wife and two daughters, as I built c.e.r.i. on my own they
> gave me a lot of help, turning the wings / fitting the CM / and putting
> on the top etc. and spending a lot of money!!. Mind you for some unknown
> reason I couldn't get them to do any filling and sanding !!! The list
> could be quite long, but I'll keep it brief.
> Jeff Leeming and Arther Orchard (Mona flying club) John and Roger
> (Europa 04) Andy Draper and Nev Aires (formally Europa) Murray Flint
> (paint job) All at the LAA. And last but not least, all you lovely
> people on the Forum, without the help I received from you , this
> aircraft would never have flown. I've attached a pic of R.I.and Jeff in
> the hangar.
>
> Danny G-c.e.r.i 912s tri gear
> P.s. Sorry Dave (Moore) but the Europa G**N does exist :-)
>
>
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