---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/06/08: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:31 AM - Re: DOTH Turweston Sat. 6th (Richard Iddon) 2. 06:15 AM - Europa Checklist (Carl Pattinson) 3. 07:51 AM - Re: Europa Checklist (Paul Atkinson) 4. 07:51 AM - Re: Warning. (Hans Siedsma) 5. 08:01 AM - Re: Europa Checklist (Robert Borger) 6. 11:32 AM - [color=red]Advisory of Notice For Sale . . .[/color] (johnb) 7. 11:32 AM - Garmin GTX 328 Mode S Transponder Fitting. (Remi Guerner) 8. 06:32 PM - Re: long range tank not good (Robert Borger) 9. 06:32 PM - Re: finally and at last (Keith Hickling) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:29 AM PST US From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: RE: Europa-List: DOTH Turweston Sat. 6th If I can get out of Barton, I'll be there Paddy. Richard Iddon G-RIXS -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Clarke Sent: 05 December 2008 09:17 Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Turweston Sat. 6th Hi Folks, I know we don't usually do DOTHs at the weekend, but at this time of year I think we should grab the weather while we can. So how about a DOTH to Turweston tomorrow Saturday 6th.?. Voucher is in Flyer - and they say you need to call them for PPR and a slot, but it seems there is no problem, there are plenty available. There is a new cafe and it should be open - 1200ish as usual. Maybe we could persuade a few Europa ladies to come! All the best, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa G-KIMM Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 12/4/2008 9:55 PM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:54 AM PST US From: "Carl Pattinson" Subject: Europa-List: Europa Checklist X-mailer: iAVMailScanner 1.5.5.5 When we got our Owners Manual from Europa there was a laminated checklist included which we have used ever since. Sadly it has been lost somewhere on the airfield and so a replacement is required. I had a look on the Europa Factory website but couldnt find it. Anybody have any ideas where we might find a copy. I presume a pdf is available somewhere - any suggestions? Carl Pattinson G-LABS _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.5.5 http://www.iolo.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:33 AM PST US From: "Paul Atkinson" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Checklist Carl You are welcome to have mine. Just let me know where to send it. Regards Paul Do not archive From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Pattinson Sent: 06 December 2008 14:14 Subject: Europa-List: Europa Checklist When we got our Owners Manual from Europa there was a laminated checklist included which we have used ever since. Sadly it has been lost somewhere on the airfield and so a replacement is required. I had a look on the Europa Factory website but couldnt find it. Anybody have any ideas where we might find a copy. I presume a pdf is available somewhere - any suggestions? Carl Pattinson G-LABS _____ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.5.5 http://www.iolo.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:34 AM PST US From: "Hans Siedsma" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Warning. This is already for years. I remember a couple of years ago flying in France that I had to make a stop at Le Touget because I could not make the Netherlands anymore before sun set. It was 19.50 and the airport close at 20.00. I got approval to divert and to land. Airtraffic controler gave me 5 extra minutes so I made it. There was nobody anymore on the airport only one the firer figther who helpo by parking and closed the gate. Next morning I was surprised to meet the police and I had to follow him to his office. Together with an English pilot I was his guest and he informd us that we got a ticket for a landing without customs declaration. I could prove that I came from a airport in France so I was lucky but the English pilot got a penalty of euro 700. Direct to pay and cash. So I can tell yuo he was not to happy. There was no customs open that night before, there was no police and their was no airport authorities available. No excuse, he had to pay. Be carefull Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]Namens karelvranken Verzonden: donderdag 4 december 2008 23:01 Aan: Europa List Onderwerp: Europa-List: Warning. Dear Europaphiles, During the month of october I received a lettre from the Belgian Federal Police notifying me that for the exit or entrance in the Shengen Countries we need to use one of the six recognised aerports in Belgium: Brussels, Antwerp, Lige, Charleroi, Ostend and Kortrijk. Offenders shall be fined....etc. Last time I was in England I coasted in at Lydd. There was nobody in the office nor police nor customs. The other times before I never saw the customs in Popham, Dunkeswell or Welshpool even when I asked for, several hours in advance with the adequate form. I never refuse a control from whatever authority, if they ask me. But why have I to pay and tell them what I will do with my small aircraft? Is this European freedom? Why were we upset in Arad (Roumania) or Forli (Italia) with this officialdom? To avoid the cost for 4 extra landings (Lydd 15 and Kortrijk 23 Euro) or approximately 92 Euro for a one day trip to England, I suggested that they could attach an electronic stamp to my ankle like is done for prisonners in conditional liberty. They said that is only for light criminals! (Joke) Best regards, Karel Vranken, #447 F-PKRL ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:54 AM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Checklist Carl, I'm scanning my check list and will have it posted on my website in a few minutes. Check six, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Dec 6, 2008, at 8:13, Carl Pattinson wrote: > When we got our Owners Manual from Europa there was a laminated > checklist included which we have used ever since. > > Sadly it has been lost somewhere on the airfield and so a > replacement is required. I had a look on the Europa Factory website > but couldnt find it. > > Anybody have any ideas where we might find a copy. I presume a pdf > is available somewhere - any suggestions? > > Carl Pattinson > G-LABS ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:32:14 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: [color=red]Advisory of Notice For Sale . . .[/color] From: "johnb" [b:ede897bf5c] Hello Europaphiles: Tough times often require tough decisions! Therefore, I must advise any interested party of the two (2) revised notices of sale in the, "Looking to Sell", section of this message board. In addition to the description concerning each opportunity, web page contact has been included. I truly appreciate the luxury to post this advisory! Many happy landings . . . "Thank-U", John B. [/b:ede897bf5c] Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:32:14 AM PST US From: "Remi Guerner" Subject: Europa-List: Garmin GTX 328 Mode S Transponder Fitting. Hi, The GTX 328 uses the 330 rack. I confirm again that the 328 fits ok into the Europa. For those who still do not believe it, I have attached two pictures of my instrument panel. My panel module is factory standard. Sorry I do not have any pics of the back side. Regards Remi Guerner F-PGKL ""Hi Mike, I have the Garmin 330 in G-LINN - fitted in no problem so I wouldn't have thought the 328 would be any different in length. regards Trev -----Original Message----- From: nigel charles Sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 6:12 pm Subject: RE: Europa-List: Garmin GTX 328 Mode S Transponder Fitting. This is good to know as I would prefer to use the Garmin transponder but had been put off as its quoted depth was more than my Apollo SL40 which is a close fit to the firewall. I would be interested to know the depth measurement from the outside face of your panel to the firewall so I can see if I can also fit the Garmin 328. ? Regards ? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:02 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: long range tank not good Remi, My long range tank has been returned. I took some pics to post on my build website, but it appears that EuropaOwners.org is down again. So I will pass along some numbers for you and will post the pics when the site is again functional. Outside diameter of tank opening threads is 2.55 in. or 64.77 mm. Inside diameter of the cap threads is 2.5 in. or 63.5 mm. This provides 0.05 in. or 1.27 mm of thread engagement. The threads on the tank opening are not perfect and it can be difficult to put the cap on without cross-threading. But once the threads have been properly engaged, the cap screws on fairly easily. Still, it is not a perfect fit. I would not trust the cap to not leak should the tank end up on its' side or, worse yet, upside down. My plans no longer call for the use of the long range tank anyway. My wife has declared that there will NOT be any flight leg longer than THREE HOURS no matter how long the Europa can fly on available fuel. So the long range tank is now superfluous for my needs. I'll let the world know when I am able to post further to EuropaOwners.org. Not much work done in the last two days anyway. Too durn cold the last couple mornings. It was 27F/-3C this morning. And afternoons have been wiped out by other obligations. Perhaps I can get some work done tomorrow as it is supposed to warm up a bit before the next cold front comes through around Tuesday (with possible frozen precipitation). I need to put the covers on the door latch mechanisms, drill one final hole in the brake lever to put the last screw in to hold the brake handle on and do one final weight and balance. Oh, and complete the final check list. I believe that's it and I can call the Mel Asberry (FAA/DAR and EAA Tech Rep) to do the final inspections. Check six, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Nov 27, 2008, at 6:58, Remi Guerner wrote: > Hello all, > > I have received my long range tank recently and am preparing it for > installation. The cap does not fit well and it leaks. I took some > measurements of the threads on both the cap and the tank. The outer > diameter of the male thread on the tank varies between 63,8 mm and > 64,6 mm while the inner diameter of the thread on the cap varies > between 63,3 and 63,9 mm. For the screwing to be effective the > diameter of the cap thread should be about 2 mm smaller than it is. > Obviously this is very bad and as a result the cap can be removed > just by pulling it vertically. There is no way I could use this tank > safely as it is. > > I have questioned the factory but up to now the response has not > been satisfactory. Has anyone experienced the same problem? Any > suggestion? > > Regards > Remi Guerner > F-PGKL ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:24 PM PST US From: Keith Hickling Subject: Re: Europa-List: finally and at last Congratulations Danny! It looks fantastic. Who did the decals for you? And, if it was done with a computer, is there any chance they could run off a set for me if they still have it on the computer, and if you wouldn't mind? (I'm in New Zealand so we probably won't be at the same flyind / DOTHS together very often to get the aircraft mixed up!). Please contact me off list if that is a possibility. Could you also email a photo without you standing in front (nothing personal) so I can see the middle part, and I'd also be interested in the cost. I hope to be joining you in spirit soon after Christmas. Half way through the upholstery, all painted. Regards, Keith Hickling, Dunedin, New Zealand. keithhickling@clear.net.nz DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "danny shepherd" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:01 AM Subject: Europa-List: finally and at last > Well folks its finally happened. > After six years of hard > labour today at 11.20 G-c.e.r.i. at Caenarfon airport north wales UK. > piloted by an officer and a gentleman, "Jeff Leeming" took off into that > great blue yonder. Climbed to 4000ft carried out a stall. The left wing > dropped quite sharply, but was easily controlled with with right rudder > and gentle pull back on the stick. We'll have to fit stall strips during > the testing period. To my amazement every thing worked perfectly!!!! > Total time for the flight was 25 minutes. When we will get the full test > complete due to the weather is any ones guess. The forecast for the next > few weeks does not look too good. ( i blame santa ) But at least we're > getting there. :-) > I suppose at this juncture its time to thank a few people. Firstly it > has to be my wife and two daughters, as I built c.e.r.i. on my own they > gave me a lot of help, turning the wings / fitting the CM / and putting > on the top etc. and spending a lot of money!!. Mind you for some unknown > reason I couldn't get them to do any filling and sanding !!! The list > could be quite long, but I'll keep it brief. > Jeff Leeming and Arther Orchard (Mona flying club) John and Roger > (Europa 04) Andy Draper and Nev Aires (formally Europa) Murray Flint > (paint job) All at the LAA. And last but not least, all you lovely > people on the Forum, without the help I received from you , this > aircraft would never have flown. I've attached a pic of R.I.and Jeff in > the hangar. > > Danny G-c.e.r.i 912s tri gear > P.s. Sorry Dave (Moore) but the Europa G**N does exist :-) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.