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1. 12:09 AM - Boost Hose. (Mike Parkin)
2. 12:24 AM - List of Contributors 2008 (Matt Dralle)
3. 03:56 AM - Re: Warning. (David Joyce)
4. 03:58 AM - Re: DOTH Turweston Sat. 6th (Richard Collings)
5. 04:32 AM - Re: Warning. (Tim Houlihan)
6. 05:21 AM - Re: Boost Hose. (Paul McAllister)
7. 05:43 AM - Re: Boost Hose. (Robert Borger)
8. 05:55 AM - Re: Europa Checklist (Roger Bull)
9. 07:50 AM - Re: Warning. (ploucandco)
10. 12:19 PM - www.EuropaOwners.org (SteveD)
11. 01:09 PM - Re: Warning. (karelvranken)
12. 01:40 PM - Re: Re: Warning. (karelvranken)
13. 02:18 PM - Fw: one wing landing (rparigoris)
14. 02:41 PM - Re: Fw: one wing landing (R Holder)
15. 03:22 PM - Re: Fw: one wing landing (Gilles Thesee)
16. 10:03 PM - Re: Fw: one wing landing (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
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For 914 installers. What hose did you use for the boost hose from the
balance tube to the boost gauge. Anyone know what the recommended hose type
is???
Regards,
Mike
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| Subject: | List of Contributors 2008 |
Dear Listers,
This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that
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Karel, We have always had to fly into a customs airfield as our first
landing anywhere in Schengen, but it's worse than that as far as Belgium
goes, as pretty much alone in central European countries it still insists on
us seeking prior permission to land a permit aircraft there, which is a real
pain! So although I have several times flown along the whole length of the
Belgian coast I have studiously avoided landing there. Not of course that I
have anything against Belgian pilots!
Regards, David
----- Original Message -----
From: "karelvranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Warning.
Dear Europaphiles,
During the month of october I received a lettre from the Belgian Federal
Police notifying me that for the exit or entrance in the Shengen Countries
we need to use one of the six recognised aerports in Belgium: Brussels,
Antwerp, Lige, Charleroi, Ostend and Kortrijk. Offenders shall be
fined....etc.
Last time I was in England I coasted in at Lydd. There was nobody in the
office nor police nor customs. The other times before I never saw the
customs in Popham, Dunkeswell or Welshpool even when I asked for, several
hours in advance with the adequate form.
I never refuse a control from whatever authority, if they ask me. But why
have I to pay and tell them what I will do with my small aircraft? Is this
European freedom? Why were we upset in Arad (Roumania) or Forli (Italia)
with this officialdom?
To avoid the cost for 4 extra landings (Lydd 15 and Kortrijk 23 Euro) or
approximately 92 Euro for a one day trip to England, I suggested that they
could attach an electronic stamp to my ankle like is done for prisonners in
conditional liberty. They said that is only for light criminals! (Joke)
Best regards,
Karel Vranken, #447 F-PKRL
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Turweston Sat. 6th |
Paddy, Just a short note to thank you for initiating the DOTH to
Turweston last Saturday, although sans plane and medical I was able to
drive there and catch up with a few of you and meet some new members.
These meetings boost the moral of the lonely builder no end so keep them
up. Best wishes for Christmas and the new year to you and all the Europa
members.Richard Collings
PS. I was sorry to realise that one visiting Europa crew had not made
themselves known to the rest of us and departed without being
introduced! RWC.
----- Original Message -----
From: Paddy Clarke
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Turweston Sat. 6th
Hi Folks,
I know we don't usually do DOTHs at the weekend, but at this time of
year I think we should grab the weather while we can. So how about a
DOTH to Turweston tomorrow Saturday 6th.?. Voucher is in Flyer - and
they say you need to call them for PPR and a slot, but it seems there is
no problem, there are plenty available.
There is a new cafe and it should be open - 1200ish as usual. Maybe we
could persuade a few Europa ladies to come!
All the best, Paddy
Paddy Clarke
Europa G-KIMM
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Karel and David
The Belgium issue is rather worse than you suggest. A friend checked
with the Belgium authorities prior to planning a visit to a Belgium
Fly-in. He was advised that they did have a reciprocal agreement with
the UK regarding accepting the UK permits. and that they would issue him
with a Belgium permit based on his UK permit to allow him to visit the
Fly-in. Would he please send them 80 Euro's for the Belgium permit ! ! !
. My friend decided that in these circumstances he would not make the
visit and advised the Belgium Authorities of that decision, all was Ok
until some weeks later he received an invoice for the Permit that was
never issued. He is still trying to unravel this blunder, and is very
reluctant to plan a flight any where near just in case.
Be very wary of contact with these organisations ! !. I like David have
travelled to Holland or France rather than make a stop in Belgium. If I
had to make an unplanned stop for any reason I would studiously avoid
any mention of a Permit and try and pretend that the Europa is a little
known version of a two seat PA28.
Having said all that I have had good service from Oostende approach in
passing through their airspace.
regards
Tim H
David Joyce wrote:
> <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>
> Karel, We have always had to fly into a customs airfield as our first
> landing anywhere in Schengen, but it's worse than that as far as
> Belgium goes, as pretty much alone in central European countries it
> still insists on us seeking prior permission to land a permit aircraft
> there, which is a real pain! So although I have several times flown
> along the whole length of the Belgian coast I have studiously avoided
> landing there. Not of course that I have anything against Belgian pilots!
> Regards, David
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "karelvranken"
> <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
> To: "Europa List" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:01 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Warning.
>
>
> Dear Europaphiles,
> During the month of october I received a lettre from the Belgian
> Federal Police notifying me that for the exit or entrance in the
> Shengen Countries we need to use one of the six recognised aerports in
> Belgium: Brussels, Antwerp, Lige, Charleroi, Ostend and Kortrijk.
> Offenders shall be fined....etc.
> Last time I was in England I coasted in at Lydd. There was nobody in
> the office nor police nor customs. The other times before I never saw
> the customs in Popham, Dunkeswell or Welshpool even when I asked for,
> several hours in advance with the adequate form.
> I never refuse a control from whatever authority, if they ask me. But
> why have I to pay and tell them what I will do with my small aircraft?
> Is this European freedom? Why were we upset in Arad (Roumania) or
> Forli (Italia) with this officialdom?
> To avoid the cost for 4 extra landings (Lydd 15 and Kortrijk 23 Euro)
> or approximately 92 Euro for a one day trip to England, I suggested
> that they could attach an electronic stamp to my ankle like is done
> for prisonners in conditional liberty. They said that is only for
> light criminals! (Joke)
> Best regards,
> Karel Vranken, #447 F-PKRL
>
>
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Hi Mike,
>From memory I used 1/4" fuel injection hose between the firewall and
the engine and then on other side between the fire wall and the Grand
Rapids pressure I used PVC. I guess on reflection.
The "through connection" on the firewall was a Europa part that I purchased.
Cheers, Paul
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Mike,
FWIW, I used Rotax 4x7 hose and those little Rotax spring clamps. Have run the
engine only briefly at higher power settings but seems to work so far.
Check six,
Bob Borger
On Monday, December 08, 2008, at 02:08AM, "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btinternet.com>
wrote:
>For 914 installers. What hose did you use for the boost hose from the
>balance tube to the boost gauge. Anyone know what the recommended hose type
>is???
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Europa Checklist |
Carl,
The website only gives a selection of parts available - always give us a
call to check availability. I have put a checklist in the post for you.
Roger
________________________________
From: Roger Bull [mailto:roger@middlecave.plus.com]
Sent: 06 December 2008 14:46
Subject: FW: Europa-List: Europa Checklist
When we got our Owners Manual from Europa there was a laminated
checklist included which we have used ever since.
Sadly it has been lost somewhere on the airfield and so a replacement is
required. I had a look on the Europa Factory website but couldnt find
it.
Anybody have any ideas where we might find a copy. I presume a pdf is
available somewhere - any suggestions?
Carl Pattinson
G-LABS
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80EUR for BE for an overflight permit... that's still payable!
I paid 360EUR to get an overflight permit for DK last summer. That was a trip from
DK to Ukraine going through German and Poland.
The best service was from PL: 15 minutes to receive an answering e-mail with an
OK. The worst was from Ukraine, but that's a different story!
Jacques.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218210#218210
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| Subject: | www.EuropaOwners.org |
Hello Folks! long time no type,
I've begun the process of rebuilding EuropaOwners form the ground up.
The site has become a little long in the tooth and is in need of a major upgrade.
The Gallery software runs on a flat text based filing system that is now near
it's limits. Forum software is extensively modified and support for the old
code is beginning to trail off.
Anyhoo, not to worry, phpBB3 and Gallery2 have been released....
It's just a matter of jacking up all the text and photos on the site and changing
every line of code that makes it run. : )
I have hit one snag though, M2f the software that threads Matronic Listserver on
the site does not work with phpBB3. (We are working on that though).
Here's the question.. Is that the major feature of the site for all of you users
out there or should we go with the new site and concentrate on the Gallery making
it more searchable and more closely tied to the users?
Here's a peek at the new site:
http://www.europaowners.org/Test/index.php
The menu bar will take you to the Forum. The Gallery is listed under links.
Your user name and password should log you in. If you post in the forum or The
Gallery be advised that I could reset at any time for testing....
The test site is completely separate from the old site so don't worry about breaking
anything.....
Chat later,
Steved
www.EuropaOwners.org
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David,
In the lettre, they insisted that this had nothing to do with customs. They
are Federal Police and they insisted that you have to present you during
their opening hours (not communicated).
Regards,
Karel Vranken
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Warning.
> <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>
> Karel, We have always had to fly into a customs airfield as our first
> landing anywhere in Schengen, but it's worse than that as far as Belgium
> goes, as pretty much alone in central European countries it still insists
> on us seeking prior permission to land a permit aircraft there, which is a
> real pain! So although I have several times flown along the whole length
> of the Belgian coast I have studiously avoided landing there. Not of
> course that I have anything against Belgian pilots!
> Regards, David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "karelvranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
> To: "Europa List" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:01 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Warning.
>
>
> Dear Europaphiles,
> During the month of october I received a lettre from the Belgian Federal
> Police notifying me that for the exit or entrance in the Shengen Countries
> we need to use one of the six recognised aerports in Belgium: Brussels,
> Antwerp, Lige, Charleroi, Ostend and Kortrijk. Offenders shall be
> fined....etc.
> Last time I was in England I coasted in at Lydd. There was nobody in the
> office nor police nor customs. The other times before I never saw the
> customs in Popham, Dunkeswell or Welshpool even when I asked for, several
> hours in advance with the adequate form.
> I never refuse a control from whatever authority, if they ask me. But why
> have I to pay and tell them what I will do with my small aircraft? Is this
> European freedom? Why were we upset in Arad (Roumania) or Forli (Italia)
> with this officialdom?
> To avoid the cost for 4 extra landings (Lydd 15 and Kortrijk 23 Euro) or
> approximately 92 Euro for a one day trip to England, I suggested that they
> could attach an electronic stamp to my ankle like is done for prisonners
> in conditional liberty. They said that is only for light criminals! (Joke)
> Best regards,
> Karel Vranken, #447 F-PKRL
>
>
>
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Jacques,
Overflying the Belgian country with a foreign airplane and the permit of 82
Euro is another story. The permit is valid for 30 separated days during the
year. But than each january you have to make up a list of the past years
flying in order to renew the permit.
Best regards and greatings to Kiew.
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: "ploucandco" <ploucandco@YAHOO.COM>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:49 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Warning.
>
> 80EUR for BE for an overflight permit... that's still payable!
>
> I paid 360EUR to get an overflight permit for DK last summer. That was a
> trip from DK to Ukraine going through German and Poland.
>
> The best service was from PL: 15 minutes to receive an answering e-mail
> with an OK. The worst was from Ukraine, but that's a different story!
>
> Jacques.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=218210#218210
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fw: one wing landing |
Came across an amazing interview with the pilot of the plane that landed with one
wing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxPTEOoLcsI
My DAR provided link to me.
(It was his son!!).
Ron Parigoris
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: one wing landing |
rparigoris wrote:
> Came across an amazing interview with the pilot of the plane that landed with
one wing:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxPTEOoLcsI
> My DAR provided link to me.
It's a fake - a model ! Cleverly editted !
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: one wing landing |
rparigoris a crit :
> Came across an amazing interview with the pilot of the plane that landed with
one wing:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxPTEOoLcsI
>
> My DAR provided link to me.
>
> (It was his son!!).
>
ROTFL !
Really great idea for tricking all those who sent the "one wing" video
several times around the world ;-)
What about that one ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWrUDGxGr00&NR=1
Best regards,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: one wing landing |
Hi Gilles
"What about that one ?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWrUDGxGr00&NR=1
That is the exact pilot interview he is spoofing!
Ron Parigoris
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