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1. 12:28 AM - Re: Monday DOTH to Kemble (Richard Iddon)
2. 06:40 AM - Mod 58 (flyingphil2)
3. 07:09 AM - Re: Mod 58 (Brian Davies)
4. 07:09 AM - Re: Mod 58 (Rick Stockton)
5. 07:13 AM - Re: Mod 58 (Bill Henderson)
6. 07:54 AM - Re: Mod 58 (flyingphil2)
7. 08:08 AM - Re: Monday DOTH to Kemble (Richard Iddon)
8. 08:15 AM - Re: Monday DOTH to Kemble (rick)
9. 02:16 PM - Re: Monday DOTH to Kemble (Fred Klein)
10. 02:42 PM - Re: Monday DOTH to Kemble (Richard Iddon)
11. 08:28 PM - Flap & Aileron attachment/detach (Fred Klein)
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Subject: | Monday DOTH to Kemble |
I'm tied up on Wednesday. The 215 forecast shows any mist and fog
clearing by 10 today. Maybe I'll be eating bacon butties on my own. No
prob's, I need to use up my fuel. I am planning to take my bird home
later this week for winterising & a few minor jobs so won't be out
again.
Cheers.
Richard G-RIXS
Hi Richard,
Look's a bit iffy from Abbots Bromley, but Wednesday is looking good.
regards
Trev Pond
G-LINN
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12/14/2008 12:28 PM
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Hello All,
My rebuild is now on to the trim tabs......
I understand that Mod 58 was the replacement fitting of the trim tab drive pins.
Does anyone know why? I've looked in the factory newsletters and can't seem
to find the reason for it.
Thanks,
Phil
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Phil,
The original drive pin was welded to a thin steel plate. One of these pins
became detatched due to fracture of the plate. The failure was attributed
to the plate repeatedly bending, resulting in a fatigue failure. The
replacement plate (Mod 58) is thicker and does not bend in service.
Regards
Brian Davies kit 454.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of flyingphil2
Sent: 15 December 2008 14:39
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 58
Hello All,
My rebuild is now on to the trim tabs......
I understand that Mod 58 was the replacement fitting of the trim tab drive
pins. Does anyone know why? I've looked in the factory newsletters and
can't seem to find the reason for it.
Thanks,
Phil
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
12:28
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Lead in paragraph on Mod 58
An incident occurred to the company demonstrator aircraft G-GBXS where one
of the TP16
anti-servo/ trim tab drive pins became detached due to the plate it was wel
ded to fracturing. The
aircraft was on the ground when the failure occurred, probably during engin
e starting, and the
resulting behaviour of the aircraft in flight was to pitch nose up. The pit
ch up force was containable by the pilot and a circuit and landing was succ
essfully flown.
The fracture was established to have been caused by fatigue due to repeated
bending of TP16=A2s plate.- The bending that this plate had been subject
ed to was likely to have been in excess of normal due to ibrations caused b
y an engine starting problem. The aircraft had completed 426 hours of fligh
t which included 895 take-off and landings. It is important that the cause
of unusual vibrations, for example engine starting problems or an unbalance
d propeller, are resolved at the earliest opportunity.
--- On Mon, 12/15/08, flyingphil2 <ptiller@lolacars.com> wrote:
From: flyingphil2 <ptiller@lolacars.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 58
<ptiller@lolacars.com>
Hello All,
My rebuild is now on to the trim tabs......
I understand that Mod 58 was the replacement fitting of the trim tab drive
pins. Does anyone know why? I've looked in the factory newsletters and
can't seem to find the reason for it.
Thanks,
Phil
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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They beefed up the plate that gets bonded to the trim tab. I think they
found one on a plane that was fractured...
Bill
A010 Monowheel Classic
Rotax 912S - 13 years and still building.....
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyingphil2" <ptiller@lolacars.com>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:39 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 58
>
> Hello All,
>
> My rebuild is now on to the trim tabs......
>
> I understand that Mod 58 was the replacement fitting of the trim tab drive
> pins. Does anyone know why? I've looked in the factory newsletters and
> can't seem to find the reason for it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>
>
>
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Ah, Ok - that's great, thanks for all your help.
Phil
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Monday DOTH to Kemble |
Sorry DOTH'ers, cocked up again. The weather was OK from Manchester down
to just north of Gloucester but completely clagged in to the south east.
I did make an attempt but then turned back. I noticed that the mountains
of Wales looked fairly spectacular on my way back, I reckon I could see
Snowdon from about 100 miles away at 4000ft. I diverted for a few pics
and landed at Caernarfon for the obligatory bacon buttie.
I think I will leave the choice to Paddy from now on!
Richard G-RIXS
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Subject: | Monday DOTH to Kemble |
Hi Richard
Nice pics. Reminds us of one reason we fly!.
Cheers
Rick
G-RIKS
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Iddon
Sent: 15 December 2008 16:08
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Monday DOTH to Kemble
Sorry DOTH'ers, cocked up again. The weather was OK from Manchester down to
just north of Gloucester but completely clagged in to the south east.
I did make an attempt but then turned back. I noticed that the mountains of
Wales looked fairly spectacular on my way back, I reckon I could see Snowdon
from about 100 miles away at 4000ft. I diverted for a few pics and landed at
Caernarfon for the obligatory bacon buttie.
I think I will leave the choice to Paddy from now on!
Richard G-RIXS
Checked by AVG.
Checked by AVG.
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Subject: | Re: Monday DOTH to Kemble |
What, pray tell, is an "obligatory bacon buttie"?
Have I been missing something all these years?
Fred :-)
A194
On Monday, December 15, 2008, at 08:14 AM, rick wrote:
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
> Iddon
> Sent: 15 December 2008 16:08
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Monday DOTH to Kemble
>
>
> Sorry DOTH'ers, cocked up again. The weather was OK from Manchester
> down to
> just north of Gloucester but completely clagged in to the south east.
> I did make an attempt but then turned back. I noticed that the
> mountains of
> Wales looked fairly spectacular on my way back, I reckon I could see
> Snowdon
> from about 100 miles away at 4000ft. I diverted for a few pics and
> landed at
> Caernarfon for the obligatory bacon buttie.
> I think I will leave the choice to Paddy from now on!
>
> Richard G-RIXS
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Subject: | Monday DOTH to Kemble |
Ahh!. A 'buttie' is Lancashire slang for a sandwich. Eating a bacon
buttie is normal behaviour on a Drop of the Hat fly in over here. If you
are feeling particularly enthusiastic you may even go for an egg and
bacon buttie.
If you haven't had one you are definitely missing something. Nothing
better!!
Richard Iddon
G-RIXS
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monday DOTH to Kemble
What, pray tell, is an "obligatory bacon buttie"?
Have I been missing something all these years?
Fred :-)
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Subject: | Flap & Aileron attachment/detach |
Gentlemen,
I'm wondering what the sequence is for attaching and detaching the
ailerons and flaps once the aircraft is complete. Having trimmed the
bolt embedded in the inboard end of the aileron and fitted the flaps
(including the inboard extension), I can't for the life of me see how
one can attach the aileron to the wing with the flap already installed.
For that matter, it appears to me that an aileron cannot be detached
from the wing with the flap in place either in the retracted or
deployed position.
It appears that ailerons must be attached first, and then (and only
then) the flaps can be attached in the deployed position.
So my question is: If (for some reason) one would desire to detach an
aileron from the wing, must the flap be detached first?
(That seems to be the case for me, and I'm wondering if this is SOP or
if I've screwed up somewhere along the line.)
Thanks for any comments from your experience,
Fred
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