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1. 03:34 AM - Re: RT changes - UK (Jan de Jong)
2. 09:12 AM - Skymap 111C battery (Richard Iddon)
3. 09:41 AM - Re: Skymap 111C battery (rick)
4. 10:16 AM - Re: Skymap 111C battery (R Holder)
5. 10:22 AM - Re: Skymap 111C battery (Mike Parkin)
6. 10:45 AM - Re: Skymap 111C battery (Peter Rees)
7. 11:45 AM - Re: Skymap 111C battery (Robert C Harrison)
8. 12:21 PM - Re: Skymap 111C battery (Richard Iddon)
9. 12:48 PM - Re: Skymap 111C battery (Paddy Clarke)
10. 01:00 PM - DOTH Leicester Fri 19th (Paddy Clarke)
11. 01:08 PM - Bacon butties (Fergus Kyle)
12. 01:35 PM - Re: one wing landing (BAILEIGH INC)
13. 04:25 PM - A question about post curing? (Jeffrey J Paris)
14. 06:44 PM - Re: A question about post curing? (Karl Heindl)
15. 06:51 PM - Re: A question about post curing? (Karl Heindl)
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| Subject: | Re: RT changes - UK |
David Joyce wrote:
> <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>
> UK pilots should have had a heads up about the upcoming changes to ATC
> procedures, via Gasil, but foreign visitors may have missed it. The
> following site offers a thorough briefing:
> http://www.airspacesafety.com Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
>
Thank you. Passed it on to my DA40 club members (all 60 of them).
Regards,
Jan de Jong
do not archive
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| Subject: | Skymap 111C battery |
My Skymap 111C is telling me that it needs a new battery. I have done
an internet search and discovered that it is possible to DIY. Anyone
done this and if so which battery and what is the procedure?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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| Subject: | Skymap 111C battery |
Hi Richard
Just had the same problem. The battery is:
'The battery is a wire ended 3.7 volt Lithium Thynol Chloride AA cell.
The RS part number is 185-5659. Current cost is =A34.80.
A friend of mine did the job as a favour as the 'official' price is
apparently exorbitant. Couldn't really ask him again.
I'll see him this weekend and ask him for the replacement details.
Cheers
Rick
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Iddon
Sent: 17 December 2008 17:11
Subject: Europa-List: Skymap 111C battery
My Skymap 111C is telling me that it needs a new battery. I have done
an
internet search and discovered that it is possible to DIY. Anyone done
this
and if so which battery and what is the procedure?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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| Subject: | Re: Skymap 111C battery |
> Just had the same problem. The battery is:
> 'The battery is a wire ended 3.7 volt Lithium Thynol
> Chloride AA cell.
> The RS part number is 185-5659. Current cost is 4.80.
> A friend of mine did the job as a favour as the
> 'official' price is apparently exorbitant. Couldn't
> really ask him again.
> I'll see him this weekend and ask him for the
> replacement details.
The official price was 125 plus VAT "plus anything else
that needed replacing !"
I compromised and paid them 25 + VAT for the battery, but
was disgusted to find that the battery was a standard one
that was about a fiver. I did do the changeover myself -
but it was a bit fiddly !
I have sent Richard the (12 pages) of official instructions.
Richard Holder
G-OWWW
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| Subject: | Skymap 111C battery |
Richard,
It is not very difficult to DIY the battery. I did Bob Harrison's Skymap 3C
for him with no great drama. The battery is a Saft 3.6V Lithium one with
axial wires - it is soldered in. Bob got 2 of the batteries from RS ( see
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduct
<http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/searchBrowseAction.html?method=getProduc
t&R=4364796#header> &R=4364796#header ). The procedure is in the attached
documents.
If you are not comfortable doing the job, send it to me with a battery, and
I will change it for you.
Regards,
Mike.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Iddon
Sent: 17 December 2008 17:11
Subject: Europa-List: Skymap 111C battery
My Skymap 111C is telling me that it needs a new battery. I have done an
internet search and discovered that it is possible to DIY. Anyone done this
and if so which battery and what is the procedure?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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| Subject: | Re: Skymap 111C battery |
I did one on the Skymap III (the panel mount version) - was a dead easy
job. If its the same battery type (like an AA battery with a wire welded
on each end). Its difficult to get to the underside of the PCB where the
battery is mounted so to save dismantling the unit, this is the
procedure I used (and would again).
1) Note the polarity of the old battery (mark the + on the PCB with an
indelible pen)
2) Cut the old battery out leaving plenty of the wire left in the board.
3) Put your soldering iron on the wire at the point where the wire goes
through the board and the pad on the board.
4) When the solder melts, use small pliers to remove the wire from the
board.
5) Heat the pad again and use a solder sucker to clean out the solder
from the hole.
6) Repeat for the other wire.
7) Form the wires for the new battery and pass them through the holes in
the PCB. (cut them if necessary).
8) Solder the new battery in from the top of the board (the solder will
run through the plating between the top and bottom of the board.
New battery should be available from Maplin - if not, I got mine from
Farnell - they're mainly trade but the do sell online to the public.
If you fancy a flight to Rochester, I'd be happy to do the mod for you
if you're not happy about soldering inside the unit.
Peter
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From: Richard Iddon
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:11 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Skymap 111C battery
My Skymap 111C is telling me that it needs a new battery. I have done
an internet search and discovered that it is possible to DIY. Anyone
done this and if so which battery and what is the procedure?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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| Subject: | Skymap 111C battery |
Hi! Richard,
Some considerable time ago I had set of battery replacement
instructions
and had finished up with a spare battery.
The battery is no longer where I put it (but probably dated somewhat)and
the
instructions went down with my computer.
However I'm pretty sure I e-mailed them to someone on the forum so an
appeal
may flush the chap out if he reads this message!
Mike Parkin kindly did mine and found it quite easy, the electronics are
in
layers and the damn battery is in the lower layer and soldered into
place.
I think the biggest pitfall is to ensure the layer spacer washers are
put
back the same way up since one edge is chamfered.
Mike just may have a copy of my instructions. I had two batteries since
I
ordered a replacement from RS supplies (or my Electrical Contractor
neighbour did !) and I ordered one from Honeywell but it was expensive.
You
could try 'phoning the Honeywell technician(on 01256 722217) before
office
opening time and ask him if he could either send you or Fax you a copy
of
them. If you get them I could do with a copy if you would oblige.
Of course the damn thing will loose all your configured routes and way
points. Mine packed up on a journey somewhere but when you power it up
in
the aircraft it will still work but you have to configure it as you go
so to
speak. It sounds that you are lucky since it gives you say 50 hours
notice
but that's not time in use it's actual clock time and it's ticking when
the
thing isn't in use ! Now how you change the battery without loosing your
way
points unless you solder the new battery in place before snipping the
original wires I'm not sure. Mine was BLXED anyway so the question
didn't
arise !
Regards
Bob Hrrison G-PTAG
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Iddon
Sent: 17 December 2008 17:11
Subject: Europa-List: Skymap 111C battery
My Skymap 111C is telling me that it needs a new battery. I have done
an
internet search and discovered that it is possible to DIY. Anyone done
this
and if so which battery and what is the procedure?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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| Subject: | Skymap 111C battery |
Thanks Guys. With your help I have now dismantled the unit and
identified / ordered a new battery. Shouldn=92t be a problem to fit it.
Skyforce quoted me =A375 to do the job. The battery was =A34.80.
Cheers.
Richard.
Subject: Europa-List: Skymap 111C battery
My Skymap 111C is telling me that it needs a new battery. I have done
an internet search and discovered that it is possible to DIY. Anyone
done this and if so which battery and what is the procedure?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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12/17/2008 8:31 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Skymap 111C battery |
Hi Richard,
A little word of warning - do it carefully. Mine was done by a friend
of mine, quite an electronics expert allegedly, but he managed to
damage the unit and it had to back to Skyforce anyway,
All the best, Paddy
On 17 Dec 2008, at 20:15, Richard Iddon wrote:
> Thanks Guys. With your help I have now dismantled the unit and
> identified / ordered a new battery. Shouldn=92t be a problem to fit
it.
>
> Skyforce quoted me =A375 to do the job. The battery was =A34.80.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Richard.
>
> Subject: Europa-List: Skymap 111C battery
>
> My Skymap 111C is telling me that it needs a new battery. I have
> done an internet search and discovered that it is possible to DIY.
> Anyone done this and if so which battery and what is the procedure?
>
> Richard Iddon G-RIXS
>
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> 12/17/2008 8:31 AM
>
Paddy Clarke
Europa G-KIMM
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| Subject: | DOTH Leicester Fri 19th |
Hi Folks,
Unfortunately I couldn't take advantage of the lovely weather today,
but would still like to fly this week, so how about a DOTH on
Friday?. There seem to be no suitable freebies, so I propose
Leicester. It's central, has 3 hard runways, a good cafe, and I don't
think we've been there for a bit. 1200ish as usual.
All the best, Paddy
Paddy Clarke
Europa G-KIMM
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Time: 02:16:28 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monday DOTH to Kemble
From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
What, pray tell, is an "obligatory bacon buttie"?
Have I been missing something all these years?
Fred :-) A194
Very definitely, yes, you have..
I think it's a traditional bacon sandwich, with various regional
fripperies, which coincides basically to the U.S. "$100 hamburger".
On occasion, violation of regulations regarding C0fG and All-up weight have
been levied on return flights - I believe you call it a "citation". In
Canada we fight for these as a sign of excellence.
Ferg
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| Subject: | Re: one wing landing |
Nice!
--------
Shane Henderson
Baileigh Industrial
shenderson@bii1.com
920-684-4990
Check Out www.bii1.com For Awesome Metal Fabrication Equipment
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=219842#219842
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| Subject: | A question about post curing? |
Dear Listers,A question about post curing our epoxy parts. =C2-Today we bu
ilt ourselves an "oven" for baking our parts at the appropriate 40-50 degree
celsius for post cure. =C2-We built a 16' X 4' X 4' enclosure out of foil
claded 4X8 sheets of insulation foam. =C2-The box is backed up to a basem
ent brick fireplace (no open flames) in which I would like to place a suitab
le heating element. =C2-I also have use of an attic fan to low air around
the cavity.=C2-Has anybody attempted this before? =C2-And if so what did
you use to heat the space. =C2-I went to a website that helps you calcula
te the heating requirements for 256 cubic feet of space @ 50 degrees celsius
came to about 8900 btu's, however, heat does build up and I want a consiste
nt heat over a period of hours therefore I will need a thermostat of sorts I
would guess.Any advice out there? =C2-I'm not a =C2-thermo engineer jus
t an individual Europa builder who's looking for an inexpensive way to do th
e job.Thank you for your time and consideration.Cheers and Happy Holidays,Si
ncerely,Jeff =C2-and Peter Paris =C2-Kit# A012 Monowheel Classic
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| Subject: | A question about post curing? |
Jeffrey=2C
Keep it simple. No need for complicated thermostatic control. I used 2 fan
heaters plus a larger fan to circulate air. Use a couple of thermometers wi
th remote probes=2C one for the upper and one for the lower level. Then do
it by trial and error: let the heat build up until it reaches the required
temperature=2C the heaters should have multiple heat settings. I had to mod
ify the heaters to bypass the thermostatic safety cutout. Start the job in
the morning and monitor it through the day. Position the heaters such that
they don't blow directly onto the work pieces.
Karl
effrey-j-paris@excite.comSubject: Europa-List: A question about post curing
?Dear Listers=2C
A question about post curing our epoxy parts. Today we built ourselves an
"oven" for baking our parts at the appropriate 40-50 degree celsius for pos
t cure. We built a 16' X 4' X 4' enclosure out of foil claded 4X8 sheets o
f insulation foam. The box is backed up to a basement brick fireplace (no
open flames) in which I would like to place a suitable heating element. I
also have use of an attic fan to low air around the cavity.
Has anybody attempted this before? And if so what did you use to heat the
space. I went to a website that helps you calculate the heating requiremen
ts for 256 cubic feet of space @ 50 degrees celsius came to about 8900 btu'
s=2C however=2C heat does build up and I want a consistent heat over a peri
od of hours therefore I will need a thermostat of sorts I would guess.
Any advice out there? I'm not a thermo engineer just an individual Europa
builder who's looking for an inexpensive way to do the job.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Cheers and Happy Holidays=2C
Sincerely=2C
Jeff and Peter Paris Kit# A012 Monowheel Classic
Cooking School
Become a Top Chef!
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| Subject: | A question about post curing? |
Jeffrey=2C
That oven looks great=2C but it might have been better to have the foil on
the interior.Keep it simple. No need for complicated thermostatic control.
I used 2 fan heaters plus a larger fan to circulate air. Use a couple of th
ermometers with remote probes=2C one for the upper and one for the lower le
vel. Then do it by trial and error: let the heat build up until it reaches
the required temperature=2C the heaters should have multiple heat settings.
I had to modify the heaters to bypass the thermostatic safety cutout. Star
t the job in the morning and monitor it through the day. Position the heate
rs such that they don't blow directly onto the work pieces. Karl
effrey-j-paris@excite.comSubject: Europa-List: A question about post curing
?Dear Listers=2C
A question about post curing our epoxy parts. Today we built ourselves an
"oven" for baking our parts at the appropriate 40-50 degree celsius for pos
t cure. We built a 16' X 4' X 4' enclosure out of foil claded 4X8 sheets o
f insulation foam. The box is backed up to a basement brick fireplace (no
open flames) in which I would like to place a suitable heating element. I
also have use of an attic fan to low air around the cavity.
Has anybody attempted this before? And if so what did you use to heat the
space. I went to a website that helps you calculate the heating requiremen
ts for 256 cubic feet of space @ 50 degrees celsius came to about 8900 btu'
s=2C however=2C heat does build up and I want a consistent heat over a peri
od of hours therefore I will need a thermostat of sorts I would guess.
Any advice out there? I'm not a thermo engineer just an individual Europa
builder who's looking for an inexpensive way to do the job.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Cheers and Happy Holidays=2C
Sincerely=2C
Jeff and Peter Paris Kit# A012 Monowheel Classic
Cooking School
Become a Top Chef!
Click here for more information
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