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1. 02:03 AM - Re: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? (zwakie)
2. 02:57 AM - Re: Outrigger question for all those Mono Owners (David Joyce)
3. 03:17 AM - Re: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? (Robert C Harrison)
4. 04:09 AM - Re: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? (craig bastin)
5. 05:02 AM - Re: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? ()
6. 05:48 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Rob Neils)
7. 05:59 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Trevpond@aol.com)
8. 06:33 AM - Re: Landing Lights (karelvranken)
9. 08:18 AM - Re: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? (zwakie)
10. 09:20 AM - Re: Wire cover needed (ALAN YERLY)
11. 09:24 AM - Re: Landing Lights (Karl Heindl)
12. 10:32 AM - Engine and radiator hoses (Paul McAllister)
13. 11:04 AM - Re: Engine and radiator hoses (Gilles Thesee)
14. 01:41 PM - Re: Engine and radiator hoses (karelvranken)
15. 01:51 PM - Re: Engine and radiator hoses ()
16. 02:14 PM - Re: Engine and radiator hoses (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
17. 02:23 PM - Re: Engine and radiator hoses (Gilles Thesee)
18. 03:13 PM - Bubble doors (Frank Kusserow)
19. 05:17 PM - Re: Bubble doors (Karl Heindl)
20. 05:25 PM - Re: Engine and radiator hoses (Karl Heindl)
21. 05:33 PM - Silicone Radiator Hose (Erich Trombley)
22. 06:22 PM - Re: Taxi test videos (Robert Borger)
23. 06:31 PM - Re: Bubble doors (Robert Borger)
24. 06:35 PM - Re: Bubble doors (craig bastin)
25. 06:41 PM - Re: Taxi test videos (craig bastin)
26. 06:54 PM - Re: Taxi test videos (Robert Borger)
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| Subject: | Re: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? |
[quote:fa65874136="ptag.dev"]I think what you are saying is that there is more
necessity for Mode S when flying in Europe than in the UK[/quote:fa65874136]
I did not intend to compare countries with my statement, I was only looking at
cockpit and flight-prep procedures: if you have a Mode S, you don't need to worry
about Mode S or Mode A/C anymore. No more need to circumnavigate Mode S mandatory
zones, no more height-restrictions due to not having one, etc. Just turn
the thing on, and 'forget' about it...
My view of course will be clouded, because in Holland you must have Mode S if you
wish to go higher than 1500ft, making the decision of getting a Mode S the
more obvious one (please read: almost an absolute necessity).
Marcel
PS 2
I do fully subscribe your views on bureaucracy
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Outrigger question for all those Mono Owners |
Peter, Just following the instructions with no extra tweaks gave me
horizontal outriggers. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Zutrauen" <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 12:59 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Outrigger question for all those Mono Owners
> Happy New Year to all,
>
> Quick question: in many photos of monos in flight, the retracted
> outriggers
> are below horizontal by almost 30 degrees in some cases. Is this by
> design?
> Or is it from build variance, or wear?
>
> I would have assumed that the outriggers would be near 90 deg when
> retracted, to minimize their frontal area. From the many build photos, it
> appears that 90deg is not attainable due to the leg itself contacting
> the flap hinge, but something very close should be feasible by tweaking
> the
> complex geometry of the outrigger mechanism....no?
>
> Cheers & thx,
> Pete
> A239
>
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| Subject: | Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? |
Hi! Marcel
I appreciate your points but I don't think the motives of the
authorities are such that with Mode S will entitle you to zoom about
anywhere but that if you do then they will have a "handle" on you and
details of where to send their bill, be it a fine for infringement or
indeed as seemingly necessary for "Air Navigation Services" charges for
entering and leaving such as Tempelhof air traffic control zone. They
will still require you to comply with all height restrictions, the main
difference with Mode S being that they will have height read out against
your name.
Of course my point about some possibility of equipment needing to be up
graded or superceded by three years in the future may also be affected
by prices of such equipment being slashed as Mike Duane points out, but
where aeronautical equipment is concerned the manufacturers expect that
we can stand the cost whatever so I would be amazed if they reduced any
current prices.
Regrds
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zwakie
Sent: 03 January 2009 10:00
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone?
[quote:fa65874136="ptag.dev"]I think what you are saying is that there
is more necessity for Mode S when flying in Europe than in the
UK[/quote:fa65874136]
I did not intend to compare countries with my statement, I was only
looking at cockpit and flight-prep procedures: if you have a Mode S, you
don't need to worry about Mode S or Mode A/C anymore. No more need to
circumnavigate Mode S mandatory zones, no more height-restrictions due
to not having one, etc. Just turn the thing on, and 'forget' about it...
My view of course will be clouded, because in Holland you must have Mode
S if you wish to go higher than 1500ft, making the decision of getting a
Mode S the more obvious one (please read: almost an absolute necessity).
Marcel
PS 2
I do fully subscribe your views on bureaucracy
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? |
Bob just touching on the price and possible reduction over time. MGL are
supposedly
releasing a Mode S transponder shortly. Given the price of their EFIS panels
we can all hope they might "throw a cat amongst the pigeons" as it were
which could force
a price drop from the others.
As far as the Mode S goes in australia, All new aircraft Registrations are
being issued a mode
S ident.
Craig
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert C
Harrison
Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2009 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone?
<ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Marcel
I appreciate your points but I don't think the motives of the
authorities are such that with Mode S will entitle you to zoom about
anywhere but that if you do then they will have a "handle" on you and
details of where to send their bill, be it a fine for infringement or
indeed as seemingly necessary for "Air Navigation Services" charges for
entering and leaving such as Tempelhof air traffic control zone. They
will still require you to comply with all height restrictions, the main
difference with Mode S being that they will have height read out against
your name.
Of course my point about some possibility of equipment needing to be up
graded or superceded by three years in the future may also be affected
by prices of such equipment being slashed as Mike Duane points out, but
where aeronautical equipment is concerned the manufacturers expect that
we can stand the cost whatever so I would be amazed if they reduced any
current prices.
Regrds
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zwakie
Sent: 03 January 2009 10:00
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone?
[quote:fa65874136="ptag.dev"]I think what you are saying is that there
is more necessity for Mode S when flying in Europe than in the
UK[/quote:fa65874136]
I did not intend to compare countries with my statement, I was only
looking at cockpit and flight-prep procedures: if you have a Mode S, you
don't need to worry about Mode S or Mode A/C anymore. No more need to
circumnavigate Mode S mandatory zones, no more height-restrictions due
to not having one, etc. Just turn the thing on, and 'forget' about it...
My view of course will be clouded, because in Holland you must have Mode
S if you wish to go higher than 1500ft, making the decision of getting a
Mode S the more obvious one (please read: almost an absolute necessity).
Marcel
PS 2
I do fully subscribe your views on bureaucracy
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
1:10 PM
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| Subject: | Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? |
Same here Craig, the CAA have issued Ident's since 2007, I personally have only
one year's use of a new Garmin GTX327 and therefore reluctant to replace it just
yet, As Bob and me do a lot of trips together i think it would be best for Bob
to change to mode S and i follow behind using mode A as part of the formation
:-)
Or more likely though i dont condone it, is Pilots NOT turning on there transponders
at all in class G ( that will really improve safety)
regards
Ivor
----
> Bob just touching on the price and possible reduction over time. MGL are
> supposedly
> releasing a Mode S transponder shortly. Given the price of their EFIS panels
> we can all hope they might "throw a cat amongst the pigeons" as it were
> which could force
> a price drop from the others.
>
> As far as the Mode S goes in australia, All new aircraft Registrations are
> being issued a mode
> S ident.
>
>>
> Hi! Marcel
> I appreciate your points but I don't think the motives of the
> authorities are such that with Mode S will entitle you to zoom about
> anywhere but that if you do then they will have a "handle" on you and
> details of where to send their bill, be it a fine for infringement or
> indeed as seemingly necessary for "Air Navigation Services" charges for
> entering and leaving such as Tempelhof air traffic control zone. They
> will still require you to comply with all height restrictions, the main
> difference with Mode S being that they will have height read out against
> your name.
> Of course my point about some possibility of equipment needing to be up
> graded or superceded by three years in the future may also be affected
> by prices of such equipment being slashed as Mike Duane points out, but
> where aeronautical equipment is concerned the manufacturers expect that
> we can stand the cost whatever so I would be amazed if they reduced any
> current prices.
> Regrds
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
> > [quote:fa65874136="ptag.dev"]I think what you are saying is that there
> is more necessity for Mode S when flying in Europe than in the
> UK[/quote:fa65874136]
> I did not intend to compare countries with my statement, I was only
> looking at cockpit and flight-prep procedures: if you have a Mode S, you
> don't need to worry about Mode S or Mode A/C anymore. No more need to
> circumnavigate Mode S mandatory zones, no more height-restrictions due
> to not having one, etc. Just turn the thing on, and 'forget' about it...
>
> My view of course will be clouded, because in Holland you must have Mode
> S if you wish to go higher than 1500ft, making the decision of getting a
> Mode S the more obvious one (please read: almost an absolute necessity).
>
> Marcel
>
> PS 2
> I do fully subscribe your views on bureaucracy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> 1:10 PM
>
>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
Trev,
Because N128HW (=22I, too, ate Hotel Whiskey!) is a motorglider I took specia
l precautions to decrease drag as much as possible.
I looked everywhere for the best gear leg to wheel fairing and found nothin
g - not on the web and not at airshows.
After cogitating, scratching head, drinking beer and facing East, the muses
wre enticed and they spoke, =22Make the gear leg bell-bottomed.=22 Thus evolv
ed a simple solution to getting a low-friction but high-strength intersecti
on. The bell-bottomed shape at the end of the gear makes it very easy to a
fix the wheel fairing. Afix blue foam to the bottom of the gearleg and sha
pe the beel-bottom. Having previously built or bought the fairing, use dou
ble-sided tape to stick sandpaper to the fairing where it will connect to t
he bellbottom. Rub the fairing agains the bottom of the blue foam to get a
n exact contour. Fibberglass the bellbottom and cut it to a pleasing shape
. Carve out or dissolve the blue foam.
Drill through the bell-bottom into the fairing to make screw hole. Afix nu
tplate to the inside of the wheelfairing wherever there's a screw hole. Th
is set-up makes it easy to afix and disassemble the wheel fairing from the
gear leg.
To get a smooth transition afix duct tape around the edge of the bell-botto
m. Slather dry miro onto the wheel fairing / bellbottom joint. Let cure lo
ng enough to carefully cut arround the bellbottom with a razon blade so you
can release the fairing from the bellbottom. Allow to cure completely. S
and down the edges as needed.
P.S. The landing lights are fully aim-able.
Rob
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To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Landing Lights
Hi Rob,
Where did you get your fairings and spats=3F
regards
Trev Pond
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
thank's for that Rob.
regards
Trev
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Lights |
Rob,
Do you have some pic's?
Best regards and happy new year.
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Neils
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Landing Lights
Trev,
Because N128HW ("I, too, ate Hotel Whiskey!) is a motorglider I took
special precautions to decrease drag as much as possible.
I looked everywhere for the best gear leg to wheel fairing and found
nothing - not on the web and not at airshows.
After cogitating, scratching head, drinking beer and facing East, the
muses wre enticed and they spoke, "Make the gear leg bell-bottomed."
Thus evolved a simple solution to getting a low-friction but
high-strength intersection. The bell-bottomed shape at the end of the
gear makes it very easy to afix the wheel fairing. Afix blue foam to
the bottom of the gearleg and shape the beel-bottom. Having previously
built or bought the fairing, use double-sided tape to stick sandpaper to
the fairing where it will connect to the bellbottom. Rub the fairing
agains the bottom of the blue foam to get an exact contour. Fibberglass
the bellbottom and cut it to a pleasing shape. Carve out or dissolve
the blue foam.
Drill through the bell-bottom into the fairing to make screw hole.
Afix nutplate to the inside of the wheelfairing wherever there's a screw
hole. This set-up makes it easy to afix and disassemble the wheel
fairing from the gear leg.
To get a smooth transition afix duct tape around the edge of the
bell-bottom. Slather dry miro onto the wheel fairing / bellbottom
joint. Let cure long enough to carefully cut arround the bellbottom with
a razon blade so you can release the fairing from the bellbottom. Allow
to cure completely. Sand down the edges as needed.
P.S. The landing lights are fully aim-able.
Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: Trevpond@aol.com
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Landing Lights
Hi Rob,
Where did you get your fairings and spats?
regards
Trev Pond
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| Subject: | Re: Garrecht Ultracompact VT01 installed anyone? |
[quote:f9322c72ed="ptag.dev"]are such that with Mode S will entitle you to zoom
about anywhere [/quote:f9322c72ed]
I guess you missed the phrase "due to not having one" in my remarks. Goes without
saying I would think that other restrictions (airspace and others) remain in
effect...
But you're right, Mode-S gives authorities a perfect handle to send bills/fines
:evil:
Back to my original questions:
1. anyone has the Garrecht VT01 installed and registered with EASA? I would like
to avoid being the first one, saving costs...
2. anyone interested in buying the Terra TRT250D from me at a reasonable price
once I have replaced it?
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Wire cover needed |
Make a hat section out of two layers of glass. Tack on with super glue
and lay two layers over the seam. You can use a 1x2 covered with
plastic for a form, or make a nice foam form like I did.
Bud
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From: rparigoris<mailto:rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 9:49 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Wire cover needed
<rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us<mailto:rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>>
Happy New Year
I need to somehow cover wires running along the fuse seam from baggage
bulkhead forward.
What solution have those flying come up with?
What's thoughts on having a removable cover to allow extra wires added
easier than trying to snake through a one piece raceway?
How did you handle interior up to this raceway? Is raceway cover on
top of interior or interior up to edge of raceway?
Is raceway what is used to support wiring, or did you support wiring
in another fashion and just install a cover? How then did you support
wiring?
Pics would be heplful.
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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Rob=2C
Where did you get the wheel pants. I assume they are not from Europa and ar
e one piece ?
Karl
From: RobNeils@Q.comTo: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Europa-List:
Landing LightsDate: Sat=2C 3 Jan 2009 05:47:14 -0800
Trev=2C
Because N128HW ("I=2C too=2C ate Hotel Whiskey!) is a motorglider I took sp
ecial precautions to decrease drag as much as possible.
I looked everywhere for the best gear leg to wheel fairing and found nothin
g - not on the web and not at airshows.
After cogitating=2C scratching head=2C drinking beer and facing East=2C the
muses wre enticed and they spoke=2C "Make the gear leg bell-bottomed." Th
us evolved a simple solution to getting a low-friction but high-strength in
tersection. The bell-bottomed shape at the end of the gear makes it very e
asy to afix the wheel fairing. Afix blue foam to the bottom of the gearleg
and shape the beel-bottom. Having previously built or bought the fairing
=2C use double-sided tape to stick sandpaper to the fairing where it will c
onnect to the bellbottom. Rub the fairing agains the bottom of the blue fo
am to get an exact contour. Fibberglass the bellbottom and cut it to a ple
asing shape. Carve out or dissolve the blue foam.
Drill through the bell-bottom into the fairing to make screw hole. Afix nu
tplate to the inside of the wheelfairing wherever there's a screw hole. Th
is set-up makes it easy to afix and disassemble the wheel fairing from the
gear leg.
To get a smooth transition afix duct tape around the edge of the bell-botto
m. Slather dry miro onto the wheel fairing / bellbottom joint. Let cure lo
ng enough to carefully cut arround the bellbottom with a razon blade so you
can release the fairing from the bellbottom. Allow to cure completely. S
and down the edges as needed.
P.S. The landing lights are fully aim-able.
Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: Trevpond@aol.com
Sent: Friday=2C January 02=2C 2009 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Landing Lights
Hi Rob=2C
Where did you get your fairings and spats?
regards
Trev Pond
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| Subject: | Engine and radiator hoses |
Hi all
Some time ago someone posted a few pictures of blue silicone hoses for
the rotax engine and radiator. I was wondering who that was and if
the hoses turned out to be a success.
Thanks, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Engine and radiator hoses |
Paul McAllister a crit :
> Some time ago someone posted a few pictures of blue silicone hoses for
> the rotax engine and radiator. I was wondering who that was and if
> the hoses turned out to be a success.
>
Paul and all,
When installing our 914, someone had installed blue silicone hoses, and
showed really great pictures of his engine. As the price of those
"racing-car" hoses was high, we were induced into thinking that we would
get what we were paying for from this race-car online shop.
The result was disappointing :
- Those hoses are slippery, and tend to slip out of their fittings
despite dual hose clamps. Scary when it concern oil lines. They needed
constant surveillance.
- They are rather bulky, and hard to route in our really cramped
cowling. But I understand that the Europa is somewhat larger in this
respect.
- They are very flimsy, and this may prove critical concerning oil
aspiration from the oil tank when cold (see relevant Rotax SBs)
- The soft material gets cut by the clamps we were using.
- And most important, this multiple layer blue material was porous : it
started "sweating" oil through the hose walls from day one on every
line. No measurable amount, though, but enough to make things a bit
untidy, and make us worry about our circuits liquid-tightness. Nothing
visible with radiator
Bottom line, we finally replaced them with regular rubber-based hoses,
and dumped the sticky blue stuff. No problem since.
Took some pictures at the time, for a future information page on Contrails.
Caveat builder ;-)
FWIW,
With Best Wishes,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Engine and radiator hoses |
Hi Paul,
If my memory is still intact it was Svein Jonhsen
sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no who refered to a Swedish man perhaps Stefan
Ingmarsson who used that kind of blue hoses. I don't know if it was with
success. You may ask him directly about.
Kind regards,
Karel Vranken.
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From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:29 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Engine and radiator hoses
> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>
> Hi all
>
> Some time ago someone posted a few pictures of blue silicone hoses for
> the rotax engine and radiator. I was wondering who that was and if
> the hoses turned out to be a success.
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine and radiator hoses |
Hi Gilles
I wouldn't use Silicone for oil or fuel its NOT a suitable material,
But its use for water/ glycol mix is recommended, If you use the latest Rotax type
spring clamps it will stop any weapage due to expansion and contraction,
I have changed all my coolant pipes to silicone and after 130 hours havent lossed
a drop, IMHO they are superior to the rubber hose supplied by Europa,
regards
Ivor
---- Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> wrote:
>
> Paul McAllister a crit :
> > Some time ago someone posted a few pictures of blue silicone hoses for
> > the rotax engine and radiator. I was wondering who that was and if
> > the hoses turned out to be a success.
> >
>
> Paul and all,
>
> When installing our 914, someone had installed blue silicone hoses, and
> showed really great pictures of his engine. As the price of those
> "racing-car" hoses was high, we were induced into thinking that we would
> get what we were paying for from this race-car online shop.
>
> The result was disappointing :
>
> - Those hoses are slippery, and tend to slip out of their fittings
> despite dual hose clamps. Scary when it concern oil lines. They needed
> constant surveillance.
> - They are rather bulky, and hard to route in our really cramped
> cowling. But I understand that the Europa is somewhat larger in this
> respect.
> - They are very flimsy, and this may prove critical concerning oil
> aspiration from the oil tank when cold (see relevant Rotax SBs)
> - The soft material gets cut by the clamps we were using.
> - And most important, this multiple layer blue material was porous : it
> started "sweating" oil through the hose walls from day one on every
> line. No measurable amount, though, but enough to make things a bit
> untidy, and make us worry about our circuits liquid-tightness. Nothing
> visible with radiator
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine and radiator hoses |
Hi Gilles
Silicone hose is suitable for coolant and intake.
It is not well suited for fuel or oil.
See www.mcmaster.com
search 51845KAC
I have a set of blue silicone hoses for coolant and intercooler. It was
purchased from the guy who was advertising them in the Europa Clubs
newsletter.
Best use constant tension spring type clamps if you can. Some race car
guys that really turn up turbo have them pop off. One secret that seems to
work is they clean and install with hairspray on intake.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Engine and radiator hoses |
ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com a crit :
> I wouldn't use Silicone for oil or fuel its NOT a suitable material,
> But its use for water/ glycol mix is recommended, If you use the latest Rotax
type spring clamps it will stop any weapage due to expansion and contraction,
> I have changed all my coolant pipes to silicone and after 130 hours havent lossed
a drop, IMHO they are superior to the rubber hose supplied by Europa,
>
Ivor,
Thank you for the info.
I must say that we never lost a drop of water, whatever the hoses. The
cylinder head to expansion tank hoses and clamps came with the engine.
Out of memory the fuel lines are Aeroquip 601 or something.
Best regards,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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Dear All,
last November I bought D-EJWD, a Europa Classic Mono with Rotax 912 UL.
Since the headroom is definately not sufficient with cussions installed
just thick enough for a comfortable seating position (for max. 2
hour-flights) - I am looking for those bubble doors I have seen on few
UK-pictures on europaowners.org.
Where are they from? Did aerodynamics change with installation? Are
there any other options of getting more headroom easily?
Thanks for a hint or two.
Regards,
Frank Kusserow
Europa Classic Mono
Essen/Germany
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Try using a cushion out of memory foam. You must be very tall.
Karl
From: frank@kusserow-online.comTo: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: Europa
-List: Bubble doorsDate: Sun=2C 4 Jan 2009 00:11:46 +0100
Dear All=2C
last November I bought D-EJWD=2C a Europa Classic Mono with Rotax 912 UL.
Since the headroom is definately not sufficient with cussions installed jus
t thick enough for a comfortable seating position (for max. 2 hour-flights)
- I am looking for those bubble doors I have seen on few UK-pictures on eu
ropaowners.org.
Where are they from? Did aerodynamics change with installation? Are there a
ny other options of getting more headroom easily?
Thanks for a hint or two.
Regards=2C
Frank KusserowEuropa Classic Mono
Essen/Germany
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| Subject: | Engine and radiator hoses |
Paul=2C
I bought the two silicone hoses to/from radiator from Ingmarsson in Sweden
=2C but by the time you pay for shipping=2C paypal fee=2C and taxes=2C I en
ded up paying almost 200 dollars. You can buy several sets of rubber hoses
from Europa for that. I replaced the other coolant hoses with silicone hose
s from ACS. I use ss hose clips=2C but may change to those oetiker clips.
Karl
> Date: Sat=2C 3 Jan 2009 12:29:52 -0600> From: paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com> Subject: Europa-List: Engine and radiator h
tor@gmail.com>> > Hi all> > Some time ago someone posted a few pictures of
blue silicone hoses for> the rotax engine and radiator. I was wondering who
that was and if> the hoses turned out to be a success.> > Thanks=2C Paul>
================> > >
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| Subject: | Silicone Radiator Hose |
Paul,
I have been using the blue silicone heater hose for several years now without issue.
While I do not have the spring type clamps I found that slipping heat shrink
tubing over the standard worm drive hose clamps works a treat. Without
the shrink tubing you will run the risk of the clamp cutting into the silicone.
Additionally, I used heat shrink tubing over the end of the silicone hose to
minimize any chance of chaffing from the clamp. Finally, as I concerned about
the hose kinking as it came up and over the top of the engine I wrapped the
outside of hose in that location with safety wire in a loose spiral then covered
it with shrink wrap to keep it in place.
Also, I know of one other builder that used silicone vacuum line with great success.
Both items are available at:
http://www.paragonperformance.com
Regards,
Erich Trombley
N28ET Classic Mono 914
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| Subject: | Re: Taxi test videos |
Jos,
And a Happy New Year to you too!
Good to hear from you.
Yes, we are quite happy with the progress to date. There is an issue
with the rudder pedal attachment on the pilot side. That's going to
take a week or so to fix. Then I am redirecting the tail wheel drive
cables. My idea of running them out the sternpost isn't working well
at all. I'm in the process of running them in a straight line out the
sides of the tail to the tail wheel.
The fuel problem was encountered the first time we actually tried to
fill the tank from the fuel pump. I was carefully running fuel into
the filler hole and things seemed to be going quiet well. Suddenly,
there was a huge fuel gyser that must have dumped a quart (250 ml,
probably all the fuel that was in the filler neck) of fuel into the
door and down into the well behind the passenger. Fuel all over.
Found out that the vent is the limiting factor on how rapidly you can
put fuel into the tank. Fueling is a slow process
Those door-close slings are necessary to ensure the rear bolt-shoot is
engaged. Really can't close the door without using them. So the end
up inside when you close and properly latch the door. We'll have to
see how they work over time.
Thanks, still a couple more weeks till first flight.
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Jan 2, 2009, at 23:57, josok wrote:
>
> Happy New Year to everybody here!
> Great to see your bird moving under it's own steam, looking
> beautifully Bob.
> You must be even more happy then i am, seeing this :-)
> What was the fuel problem mentioned?
> I think the door-close slings will end up outside the cockpit real
> soon now, and give you a fright.
> Good luck with the first flight,
>
> Regards,
>
> Jos Okhuijsen
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| Subject: | Re: Bubble doors |
Frank,
They were available from the factory as an option at one time. I
don't know if they still are. Check with them.
Here in the States, the plexi was provided by LP Aero Plastics, Inc.
That's where I had to go for my windows when Europa when bankrupt. I
don't know if they would be your first choice as the shipping would
probably be expensive. But if you can't find them anywhere else
contact:
George Mesiarik
c/o LP Aero Plastics, Inc.
1086 Boquet Road
Jeannette, PA 15644-4707
USA
Phone
Main: 1-800-9LP AERO
Direct: 1-724-744-4448
e-mail: george@lpaero.com
Web: http://www.lpaero.com/
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Jan 3, 2009, at 17:11, Frank Kusserow wrote:
> Dear All,
> last November I bought D-EJWD, a Europa Classic Mono with Rotax 912
> UL.
> Since the headroom is definately not sufficient with cussions
> installed just thick enough for a comfortable seating position (for
> max. 2 hour-flights) - I am looking for those bubble doors I have
> seen on few UK-pictures on europaowners.org.
> Where are they from? Did aerodynamics change with installation? Are
> there any other options of getting more headroom easily?
>
> Thanks for a hint or two.
>
> Regards,
>
> Frank Kusserow
> Europa Classic Mono
> Essen/Germany
> <1.jpg>
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If you are totally commited to getting the extra head room with the bubble
door "glass"
you might try taking the doors off and gradually and carefully heating the
offending area with the door upside
down and allow it to sag under its own weight. then let it cool and replace
the doors
Of course this approach would only give you an extra 20 to 30mm. This way if
you are happy with the
result it has cost you very little, and if you wreck the "glass" then you
can still go ahead and replace it
as you first intended.
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Kusserow
Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 9:12 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: Bubble doors
Dear All,
last November I bought D-EJWD, a Europa Classic Mono with Rotax 912 UL.
Since the headroom is definately not sufficient with cussions installed
just thick enough for a comfortable seating position (for max. 2
hour-flights) - I am looking for those bubble doors I have seen on few
UK-pictures on europaowners.org.
Where are they from? Did aerodynamics change with installation? Are there
any other options of getting more headroom easily?
Thanks for a hint or two.
Regards,
Frank Kusserow
Europa Classic Mono
Essen/Germany
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| Subject: | Taxi test videos |
hopefully you will have time to video the test flights for us all... hint
hint :)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert Borger
Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Taxi test videos
Jos,
And a Happy New Year to you too!
Good to hear from you.
Yes, we are quite happy with the progress to date. There is an issue
with the rudder pedal attachment on the pilot side. That's going to
take a week or so to fix. Then I am redirecting the tail wheel drive
cables. My idea of running them out the sternpost isn't working well
at all. I'm in the process of running them in a straight line out the
sides of the tail to the tail wheel.
The fuel problem was encountered the first time we actually tried to
fill the tank from the fuel pump. I was carefully running fuel into
the filler hole and things seemed to be going quiet well. Suddenly,
there was a huge fuel gyser that must have dumped a quart (250 ml,
probably all the fuel that was in the filler neck) of fuel into the
door and down into the well behind the passenger. Fuel all over.
Found out that the vent is the limiting factor on how rapidly you can
put fuel into the tank. Fueling is a slow process
Those door-close slings are necessary to ensure the rear bolt-shoot is
engaged. Really can't close the door without using them. So the end
up inside when you close and properly latch the door. We'll have to
see how they work over time.
Thanks, still a couple more weeks till first flight.
Best regards,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Jan 2, 2009, at 23:57, josok wrote:
>
> Happy New Year to everybody here!
> Great to see your bird moving under it's own steam, looking
> beautifully Bob.
> You must be even more happy then i am, seeing this :-)
> What was the fuel problem mentioned?
> I think the door-close slings will end up outside the cockpit real
> soon now, and give you a fright.
> Good luck with the first flight,
>
> Regards,
>
> Jos Okhuijsen
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
2:14 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Taxi test videos |
Craig,
If I can ever find my miniscule little video camera, I hope to mount
it on the pilot headrest to collect video in flight.
There will be three folks present at the first flight: Gary, the
first flight pilot, Tommy and I. Either Tommy or I will be operating
video camera and the other a still camera.
Right now, no telling when that will be. Still lots of testing to do
and some fixes to make.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Jan 3, 2009, at 20:50, craig bastin wrote:
> >
>
> hopefully you will have time to video the test flights for us all...
> hint
> hint :)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert
> Borger
> Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 12:17 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Taxi test videos
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