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1. 02:07 AM - Re: Fein saw (Graham Singleton)
2. 03:15 AM - Re: Fein saw (Rick Sivier)
3. 03:32 AM - Re: Cutting off back of cockpit module ()
4. 08:03 AM - Re: Fein saw (Brian Davies)
5. 11:01 AM - Re: sanding filler (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
6. 11:10 AM - Re: engine surging (darinh)
7. 12:03 PM - Re: polyswitches (Tony Krzyzewski)
8. 03:14 PM - Re: Cutting off back of cockpit module (Robert Borger)
9. 10:10 PM - Re: Fein saw (Greg Fuchs)
10. 10:10 PM - Re: Fein saw (Greg Fuchs)
11. 10:11 PM - Re: Fein saw (Greg Fuchs)
12. 10:12 PM - Re: Cutting off back of cockpit module (Greg Fuchs)
13. 10:16 PM - Re: Cutting off back of cockpit module (Greg Fuchs)
14. 10:58 PM - Re: Fein saw (Michel AUVRAY)
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Greg Fuchs wrote:
>
>
> The Fein saw is an oscillating saw which seems to cut through many hard
> surfaces, including fiberglass. When it appeared on a TV commercial, I
> wanted to buy this saw to try on the Europa,
> Thanks,
>
Greg
I have a Fein Tool, it is superb but as you say Expenive!! So are the
cutters for it. It does work though and there are a few jobs it will
make easy so it would be a good investment.
I don't know anyone who has tried the Harbor Freight tool yet.
Graham
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Greg,
I have found the Fein to be invaluable. I got mine off eBay for around
100, so have a look and you might find a bargain.
Rick
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Sent: 11 January 2009 10:05
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fein saw
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Greg Fuchs wrote:
<gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
>
>
> The Fein saw is an oscillating saw which seems to cut through many hard
> surfaces, including fiberglass. When it appeared on a TV commercial, I
> wanted to buy this saw to try on the Europa,
> Thanks,
>
Greg
I have a Fein Tool, it is superb but as you say Expenive!! So are the
cutters for it. It does work though and there are a few jobs it will
make easy so it would be a good investment.
I don't know anyone who has tried the Harbor Freight tool yet.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting off back of cockpit module |
Hi Greg
I didnt bother cutting it down at all, A good clean up and a dose of redux gives
a substantial increase in body strength right beside the main Tri-Gear legs,
But then that is probably why my Europa is heavy!:-)
regards
Ivor
---- Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> wrote:
> To list,
>
> When I was marking the cockpit module for cutting a long time ago, it seemed
> like the scribe lines at the sides of the module (near the back end) went up
> in an angled, circular fashion as seen in the picture. I assume that most
> people cut the scribe line parallel to the (already cut)opening. Did anyone
> see it like I did, and cut the way I have it marked? An advantage of cutting
> it that way would be that it would give more surface area for the glue to
> hold the CP module to the fuselage, in that area.
> Regards,
> Greg
>
> The extra picture: be careful who comes in to the hangar (and lurks in wait)
> to watch you build! It is hard to tell from the picture, but 'it' was a
> pretty good size, or at least a runner up. Last years winner had black and
> white colored hairs all around its legs and body. I had difficulty getting
> pictures of him. He seemed to know that I was on to him. Both have met their
> makers :)
>
>
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Bosch have brought out a copy in the UK that retails at UKP 69. It appears
to be identical and works great.
Brian Davies kit 454
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Sent: 11 January 2009 10:05
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fein saw
--> <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Greg Fuchs wrote:
> --> <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
>
>
> The Fein saw is an oscillating saw which seems to cut through many
> hard surfaces, including fiberglass. When it appeared on a TV
> commercial, I wanted to buy this saw to try on the Europa, Thanks,
>
Greg
I have a Fein Tool, it is superb but as you say Expenive!! So are the
cutters for it. It does work though and there are a few jobs it will make
easy so it would be a good investment.
I don't know anyone who has tried the Harbor Freight tool yet.
Graham
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
18:01
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| Subject: | Re: sanding filler |
Greetings Fred.
Just this weekend I have completed the filler sanding all of my flying
surfaces. In fact I have them all back in my curing oven as I type. 12 hours at
50
centigrade.
I can tell you that this part of the build is my least favorite. So
cumbersome was the process of filling and sanding, I actually took a break from
project the for a number of months. Thankfully my oldest son Brennan inspired
me
to get back to work. We both went after it with 1/3 sheet size sanders and
completed the mess I had started.
Those that make their trade in the auto body business certainly have my
respect. I can tell you that I do not look forward to the complete sanding of
the aircraft before primer and paint. Thankfully I'm still far off from that
event. I might just have to hire out that job!
Brian Skelly
Texas USA
Europa A276 www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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I can't help but marvel at how well I'm getting to know every square
inch of my little bird as I sand away everything which doesn't look
like a Europa...
I tip my hat to all who've been here...
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: engine surging |
I know this is a fairly old thread but I came across it looking for a solution
to a similar problem I am having with my 914. I am not experiencing the surging
to the extent that the original post is but I am seeing rpm of up to 5500 then
the last 10% of throttle when the turbo adds full boost, the rpm drop to around
5200 range. This started happening when the weather started dropping and
is getting worse the colder the temps get. So I originally linked it to jetting.
I have disassemble the carbs and found that both needle clips are in the
no. 3 position and SI-914-013 says to put them in no. 2 and SI-914-014 shows
the positions as 1 for the 1/3 carb and 2 for the 2/4 carb. So now I am very
confused. Anyone have better info on where to put the needle clips?
--------
Darin Hawkes
Series 7
914 Turbo
Kaysville, Utah
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224075#224075
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>>> It depends on what you are trying to protect. If you are trying to
protect your electronics from surges, then polyswitches are probably the
least favorable. Your electronics would probably be fried before the
switch trips. But in mechanical drives and motors they could be ok.
But then again a circuit breaker won't protect against surges either as
both are current limiting devices, not voltage limiting devices.
I know of a number of aircraft flying with polyfuse protection instead
of conventional breakers and have heard no adverse comments. I also use
these on my model railway and can attest to their effectiveness in
shutting the load down well before burning out the wiring and the great
thing is that they do automatically reset once the power is removed from
the circuit or the fault goes away.
In the last rendition of my wiring on the Europa I dumped the majority
of conventional breakers and went back to polyfuses . You do need to
ensure that there is some means of isolating power from the circuit but
this would normally be provided for by the on/off switch.
Remember that the primary purpose of a fuse or breaker is to protect the
wiring from excessive current - they aren't designed to protect the
equipment on the end of the wire.
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting off back of cockpit module |
Greg,
I went back to my build site to refresh my memory on how I trimmed
that part of the CM.
Year #2, Q4 2003, pics 6 & 7 show the CM ready to bond in place. You
can get a good idea how I trimmed my CM there.
You certainly can trim it as you indicate and provide additional
bonding area and strength, but understand that it will be at a weight
penalty.
Yes, there are lots of critters ready to take over your space and many
are willing and able to fight you for it. I need to work out some
better way to seal the big door on my shop from the critters. Also
seal in some heat!
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
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Cel: 817-992-1117
On Jan 10, 2009, at 23:47, Greg Fuchs wrote:
> To list,
>
> When I was marking the cockpit module for cutting a long time ago,
> it seemed
> like the scribe lines at the sides of the module (near the back end)
> went up
> in an angled, circular fashion as seen in the picture. I assume that
> most
> people cut the scribe line parallel to the (already cut)opening. Did
> anyone
> see it like I did, and cut the way I have it marked? An advantage of
> cutting
> it that way would be that it would give more surface area for the
> glue to
> hold the CP module to the fuselage, in that area.
> Regards,
> Greg
>
> The extra picture: be careful who comes in to the hangar (and lurks
> in wait)
> to watch you build! It is hard to tell from the picture, but 'it'
> was a
> pretty good size, or at least a runner up. Last years winner had
> black and
> white colored hairs all around its legs and body. I had difficulty
> getting
> pictures of him. He seemed to know that I was on to him. Both have
> met their
> makers :)
>
>
> <DSC00826.JPG><DSC00801.JPG>
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Thanks Rick,
You got the original, so it will work for sure.
At 39 US dollars, or about 20 UK pounds, the knockoff would be a good
candidate to try. I don't think any of the prices that have floated around
would compete. The question would be if it would hold up for very long.
Greg
<rick.sivier@btinternet.com>
Greg,
I have found the Fein to be invaluable. I got mine off eBay for around
100, so have a look and you might find a bargain.
Rick
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Graham,
Thanks, at least I know now that the original Fein tool works.
It does seam like it would work with fiberglass like a knife through butter.
Regards,
Greg
(original message reproduced)
>The Fein saw is an oscillating saw which seems to cut through many hard
>surfaces, including fiberglass. When it appeared on a TV commercial, I
>wanted to buy this saw to try on the Europa, until the large price tag ( I
>think it was around $350 US dollars, or so. Ian Rickard discussed this saw
>on page 12 of the December issue of The Europa Flyer.
>I noticed that there is a knock-off of this saw at Harbor Freight. It is
>new to them, and appeared in the adds over Christmas on sale for 39.99
>(down from 49.99). If anyone has tried this saw to check its
>reliability/working, let me know. Meanwhile, I am in no hurry, and waiting
>for it to go on sale again.
>Thanks,
>Greg Fuchs A050
I have a Fein Tool, it is superb but as you say Expenive!! So are the
cutters for it. It does work though and there are a few jobs it will
make easy so it would be a good investment.
I don't know anyone who has tried the Harbor Freight tool yet.
Graham
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Brian,
Hmmm,
That surely brings it closer to my wanted price range.
The Harbor Freight version is surely worth a try still, IMHO, unless anyone
says its not worth it. I might be the one who reports on it first, who
knows?
Regards,
Greg
Bosch have brought out a copy in the UK that retails at UKP 69. It appears
to be identical and works great.
Brian Davies kit 454
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| Subject: | Cutting off back of cockpit module |
Thanks Ivor,
It is good to know that it won't get in the way of anything (or be too
thick). It leaves all of the options on the table.
I too, like the idea of strengthening that area a bit.
How heavy did your Europa come in at?
What would you attribute most of the extra weight to?
~Greg
Hi Greg
I didn't bother cutting it down at all, A good clean up and a dose of redux
gives a substantial increase in body strength right beside the main Tri-Gear
legs,
But then that is probably why my Europa is heavy!:-)
regards
Ivor
---- Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> wrote:
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| Subject: | Cutting off back of cockpit module |
Bob,
Thanks for the picture reference. It looks like you followed the text
religiously. I can swear that my (almost imperceptible) scribe line follows
the dotted line in my picture. Well, based on everyone's responses, it
appears that the sky is the limit on the cutting. Though any will work, I
think I will choose a hybrid. Not quite like the manual, and not quite no
cutting at all. A little increase in strength in this area couldn't hurt too
much, especially to support the future bed......and sink.
Whoa! I saw (on your website)your picture of the black Widow hangar watch
spider! I would think that he wouldn't be the only one doing the
watching...that you would be watching him too! LOL.
Thanks for the input, and good luck on your 0.0001% . OHH to be
there..(stop daydreaming Greg!!!)
Regards,
~Greg Fuchs
Greg,
I went back to my build site to refresh my memory on how I trimmed
that part of the CM.
Year #2, Q4 2003, pics 6 & 7 show the CM ready to bond in place. You
can get a good idea how I trimmed my CM there.
You certainly can trim it as you indicate and provide additional
bonding area and strength, but understand that it will be at a weight
penalty.
Yes, there are lots of critters ready to take over your space and many
are willing and able to fight you for it. I need to work out some
better way to seal the big door on my shop from the critters. Also
seal in some heat!
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(99.999% done) Essentially complete. Running Tests & Final Inspections.
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Greg Fuchs a crit :
>
> Graham,
> Thanks, at least I know now that the original Fein tool works.
> It does seam like it would work with fiberglass like a knife through butter.
> Regards,
> Greg
>
> (original message reproduced)
>
>> The Fein saw is an oscillating saw which seems to cut through many hard
>> surfaces, including fiberglass. When it appeared on a TV commercial, I
>> wanted to buy this saw to try on the Europa, until the large price tag ( I
>> think it was around $350 US dollars, or so. Ian Rickard discussed this saw
>> on page 12 of the December issue of The Europa Flyer.
>>
>
>
>> I noticed that there is a knock-off of this saw at Harbor Freight. It is
>> new to them, and appeared in the adds over Christmas on sale for 39.99
>> (down from 49.99). If anyone has tried this saw to check its
>> reliability/working, let me know. Meanwhile, I am in no hurry, and waiting
>> for it to go on sale again.
>>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg Fuchs A050
>>
>
> I have a Fein Tool, it is superb but as you say Expenive!! So are the
> cutters for it. It does work though and there are a few jobs it will
> make easy so it would be a good investment.
> I don't know anyone who has tried the Harbor Freight tool yet.
> Graham
>
>
>
Hi all,
I use a fein saw since 15 years it is a perfect tool.
and very efficient for fiber glass.There is different shapes of blades,
a little piece of advise with each blades, make a training with sheet of
material before use on the aircraft piece.
Good work
Builder N145
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