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1. 12:47 AM - Re: sanding filler (josok)
2. 05:29 AM - Re: sanding filler (Paul McAllister)
3. 10:02 AM - Re: Mixture control (Terry Seaver (terrys))
4. 10:49 AM - Re: engine surging (D Wysong)
5. 04:10 PM - Re: Fein saw (Graham Singleton)
6. 04:12 PM - Re: Fein saw (Graham Singleton)
7. 04:23 PM - Re: sanding filler (Graham Singleton)
8. 06:54 PM - Re: Fein saw (Greg Fuchs)
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| Subject: | Re: sanding filler |
Hi Brian and all,
Shamefully i must admit that i took the flying surfaces, all of them to Nev's workshop,
with the idea that he could teach me the job. Well, in short, it ended
that he and mostly Martin did most of the work. I just could not do it good
enough. Later i run into a guy looking for a job, and hired him to do the filling
and sanding work on the rest of the plane. My deepest respect for those who
did that part of the project themselves. The moral of this reply: Look for help
if needed, instead of letting the build come to a halt.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: sanding filler |
Hi all,
Slightly off topic, but I am curious as to what most people did for
the there final sanding. I used 400 grit, and the final paint finish
was nice, although I noticed over time that sanding marks came
through.
Someone suggested to me that I should use 600 grit, but I wondered if
this would cause paint adhesion issues.
Paul
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Hi Greg,
We have been flying over 7 years, but only about one year since
installing the mixture control. My partner, Dave DeFord did most of
the testing, so he knows the specifics better than I do. As I recall,
we can reduce fuel flow 5+%, at altitudes of 8000-10000 feet. It
doesn't work well at full throttle, because it requires a pressure
difference across the carb butterfly to work. This means it is less
effective at very high altitudes where you would need full throttle to
get to cruise power.
The device we used is the Green Sky HACman mixture control system, see
their URL at;
http://www.greenskyadventures.com/bing/HACmandetails.htm
regards,
Terry Seaver
A135/N135TD
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fuchs
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mixture control
Terry,
I like the idea of compensating the Bing carbs which would tend to run
rich at high altitudes, anyway.
Are you flying yet? Ie: Have you flown this arrangement, to see how well
it worked, or how much fuel was being saved?
Thanks in advance,
Greg Fuchs, A050
Hi Remi,
We are members of the Experimental Aircraft Association who have
built an 'experimental aircraft'. As such, among other things not
included in our standard kit, we have installed a mixture control on our
912S ..........snip....
regards,
Terry Seaver
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| Subject: | Re: engine surging |
> Anyone have better info on where to put the needle clips?
The 914 Heavy Maintenance manual (ed.21/rev.2, 73-00-00 p.28) says to
refer to SI-914-013 or SI-914-015, depending on your airbox part #.
If your airbox part # is 667167 (etched on the aft face of the
airbox), then your jets should be 156 (cyls 1/3) and 158 (cyls 2/4)
and the clips should both be in position 2 per SI-914-015 (pg 3,
paragraph 3.3.2).
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Greg Fuchs wrote:
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> Graham,
> Thanks, at least I know now that the original Fein tool works.
> It does seam like it would work with fiberglass like a knife through butter.
> Regards,
> Greg
Greg & All
not exactly like a knife through butter! It isn't a fast cut. The
important thing is in the name, it's a "fein cut" and it's also very
controllable. IOW you won't make knife /chisel slips and ruin anything.
Graham
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Greg Fuchs wrote:
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>
> Thanks Rick,
> You got the original, so it will work for sure.
> At 39 US dollars, or about 20 UK pounds, the knockoff would be a good
> candidate to try. I don't think any of the prices that have floated around
> would compete. The question would be if it would hold up for very long.
>
> Greg
Not quite, the real question is will it do what a Fein Cut does, very
accurate very controllable cutting and sanding
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: sanding filler |
Paul McAllister wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Slightly off topic, but I am curious as to what most people did for
> the there final sanding. I used 400 grit, and the final paint finish
> was nice, although I noticed over time that sanding marks came
> through.
>
> Someone suggested to me that I should use 600 grit, but I wondered if
> this would cause paint adhesion issues.
>
> Paul
>
Hi Mate
in my own humble OP nothing wrong with sanding lines as long as they are
in line with the boundary layer flow ;-)
You could put some dirty oil over the whole airframe, go flow for half
an hour at the best cruise speed, take pictures then sand all over with
1200 grit in those directions. You might get a few extra knots cruise
speed. (probably would imho) More or less what the glider
fundamentalists do.
Graham
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> Thanks Rick,
> You got the original, so it will work for sure.
> At 39 US dollars, or about 20 UK pounds, the knockoff would be a good
> candidate to try. I don't think any of the prices that have floated around
> would compete. The question would be if it would hold up for very long.
>
> Greg
Not quite, the real question is will it do what a Fein Cut does, very
accurate very controllable cutting and sanding
Graham
Graham,
I think you accurately address part of the focus of my questioning. Let me
clarify the statement: If the fein knockoff comes close at all (in every
way) as being as fein as the fein saw, then all is f.....pretty good.
Cheers!
Greg
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