---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/13/09: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:13 AM - Re: Ampreg 20. (Michel AUVRAY) 2. 01:06 AM - DOTH Wed 14th Thruxton (Paddy Clarke) 3. 01:17 AM - Re: Ampreg 20. (Brian Davies) 4. 01:39 AM - Re: Ampreg 20. (Michel AUVRAY) 5. 06:56 AM - Re: Ampreg 20. (Nigel Graham) 6. 09:34 AM - Re: sanding filler (Erich Trombley) 7. 09:57 AM - Retractable Landing light or LED (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us) 8. 10:27 AM - Re: Retractable Landing light or LED (JEFF ROBERTS) 9. 11:59 AM - Re: Retractable Landing light or LED (craig bastin) 10. 12:21 PM - Re: DOTH Wed 14th Thruxton (Ray) 11. 01:05 PM - (phil brookman) 12. 02:58 PM - Re: Ampreg 20. (JR Gowing) 13. 06:33 PM - Re: Retractable Landing light or LED (Greg Fuchs) 14. 08:07 PM - Re: Retractable Landing light or LED (JEFF ROBERTS) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:48 AM PST US From: Michel AUVRAY Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ampreg 20. Mike Parkin a crit : > > Can anyone tell me the best place to buy Ampreg 20 in the UK. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > * > > > * Hi Mike, If you would like some Ampreg 20 I would suggest that you contact :- Marineware Ltd Unit 6 Cross House Centre Cross House Road Southampton SO14 5GZ England tele +44 (0)2380 330208 e-mail sales@marineware.com 2 month ago ampreg 20 is available regards Builder N145 -- --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY mau11@free.fr ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:10 AM PST US From: Paddy Clarke Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Wed 14th Thruxton Hi Folks, There appear to be no suitable vouchers this month, and we've done most of the central airfields recently, so how about Thruxton?. 2 good runways (1 hard), and a good cafe. It could be a bit misty at first - hopefully clearing up by the usual time, 1200. All the best, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa G-KIMM ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:41 AM PST US From: "Brian Davies" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Ampreg 20. Hi Mike, I always try the Europa company first when I need things like this. They are normally OK on price and the small profit that they make helps to ensure an important support organisation stays in business. Regards Brian Davies, kit 454 _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Parkin Sent: 13 January 2009 07:51 Subject: Europa-List: Ampreg 20. Can anyone tell me the best place to buy Ampreg 20 in the UK. Regards, Mike 20:18 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:41 AM PST US From: Michel AUVRAY Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ampreg 20. Brian Davies a crit : > Hi Mike, > > I always try the Europa company first when I need things like this. > They are normally OK on price and the small profit that they make > helps to ensure an important support organisation stays in business. > > Regards > > Brian Davies, kit 454 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Parkin > *Sent:* 13 January 2009 07:51 > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Europa-List: Ampreg 20. > > Can anyone tell me the best place to buy Ampreg 20 in the UK. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > http://www.avg.com 270.10.6/1889 - Release Date: 12/01/2009 20:18 > * > > > * The real problem is not ampreg price, it is the transportation price. he depend where is your place! The real cost is with transportation, for me it is triple price than the ampreg price.(I live in France) It is important to have ampreg distributor near your house -- --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY mau11@free.fr ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:25 AM PST US From: "Nigel Graham" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Ampreg 20. Mike, I live in Southampton and use Marineware Ltd for all my composite supplies. I will be coming up to the Brandon Hall hotel for the Europa club bash on the 24th, so if you (or indeed anybody else) needs some Ampreg bringing up, I would be happy to do so (this does of course assume that you will also going to the club bash). It will save you a shed load of flying tokens in transport costs. Contact me off-line at nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk to arrange this if you wish to avail yourself of "free logistics". Nigel (the other one) Graham ( ... with absolutely no commercial involvement whatsoever with Marineware) -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michel AUVRAY Sent: 13 January 2009 09:36 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ampreg 20. Brian Davies a crit : > Hi Mike, > > I always try the Europa company first when I need things like this. > They are normally OK on price and the small profit that they make > helps to ensure an important support organisation stays in business. > > Regards > > Brian Davies, kit 454 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Parkin > *Sent:* 13 January 2009 07:51 > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Europa-List: Ampreg 20. > > Can anyone tell me the best place to buy Ampreg 20 in the UK. > > > Regards, > > > Mike > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref "http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > http://www.avg.com 270.10.6/1889 - Release Date: 12/01/2009 20:18 > * > > > * The real problem is not ampreg price, it is the transportation price. he depend where is your place! The real cost is with transportation, for me it is triple price than the ampreg price.(I live in France) It is important to have ampreg distributor near your house -- --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY mau11@free.fr ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:43 AM PST US From: "Erich Trombley" Subject: Europa-List: RE: sanding filler Paul, Final dry sanding of the filler I believe was only 180 grit. I used PPG primer which limited the sanding of the substrate to 220 grit prior to primer application. Any finer and, as you suggest, you risk proper adhe sion of the primer. The primer I wet sanded to 400 grit prior to paint. I employeed Shirwin-William's Acryli-glow and Jet-glow base coat/clear coat which are aerospace coatings/paints. I wet sanded the color coat w ith 400 grit prior to the application of the clear coat. The clear coat was subsequently wet sanded with 400//600/1000/1500 grit then polished. As you can see it was quite a lot of sanding. However, I am quite ple ased with the results. I completed the above in 2003 and the paint looks as good today as it did the day I sprayed it. No sanding lines or weav e bleed through. Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the right business program for you and take your care er to the next level. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/PnY6rbttnorN3iqYNI5mH7GemXgQ arqNRAItzvS4cv9HO8JxU4MCD/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:57:42 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Retractable Landing light or LED From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Has anyone tried a retractable Landing light or LED? Details please. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thinking pretty hard about mounting our hockey puck sized Kunzleman LED on the forward portion of the outrigger OR1 (the recepticle for OR2 outrigger rod). When LED is retracted, we will add to outrigger fairing an LED well (LED lead edge fairing) where it will be very similar to the outrigger wheel fairing, somewhat aerodynamic lead edge shape with aft section opened. Can think of it as an outrigger wheel positioned 90 degrees compared to the outrigger wheel at the tip of OR2 (outrigger rod). Install will be easy, turn around bolt that mounts OR2 to OR1 and screw it into a small piece of copper that will be mounted to the heat sink I will turn out of 6061 aluminium. The reason for the copper is it will be used for the aiming adjustment. Will first try a piece of the .500" wide, .125" thick copper alloy 110 I have laying around. Unlike old timer IBM typewriter repairmen (like my late Dad) who cringe at bending linkages to make a criticle adjustments, I am going the Olivetti or Royal typewriter route, where you make many adjustments by bending. LED should be in tomorrow, will see if it can be used for both Landing and Taxi with one adjustment. Beam spread is 24 degrees. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:18 AM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Retractable Landing light or LED I meant to send this the last time this thread was up but didn't have time. Us folks in the advertising world seem to be working twice as hard for half the money these days. Anyway, here is a shot of the front of Gold Rush. Just in case one of you might want to take the simple way out of the landing light issue. This is one of the new gas lights. At first I thought it interfered with the cooling but after some testing with used oil runs the light wasn't the cause. It ended up being some bad connectors for my stratomaster engine monitor. Regards, Jeff R. A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 170 hours but the runway is too soggy to fly right now. I think the droughts over here in mid Tennessee! On Jan 13, 2009, at 11:43 AM, rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote: > > Has anyone tried a retractable Landing light or LED? > > Details please. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Thinking pretty hard about mounting our hockey puck sized Kunzleman > LED on > the forward portion of the outrigger OR1 (the recepticle for OR2 > outrigger > rod). > > When LED is retracted, we will add to outrigger fairing an LED well > (LED > lead edge fairing) where it will be very similar to the outrigger wheel > fairing, somewhat aerodynamic lead edge shape with aft section opened. > > Can think of it as an outrigger wheel positioned 90 degrees compared to > the outrigger wheel at the tip of OR2 (outrigger rod). > > Install will be easy, turn around bolt that mounts OR2 to OR1 and > screw it > into a small piece of copper that will be mounted to the heat sink I > will > turn out of 6061 aluminium. The reason for the copper is it will be > used > for the aiming adjustment. Will first try a piece of the .500" wide, > .125" > thick copper alloy 110 I have laying around. > > Unlike old timer IBM typewriter repairmen (like my late Dad) who > cringe at > bending linkages to make a criticle adjustments, I am going the > Olivetti > or Royal typewriter route, where you make many adjustments by bending. > > LED should be in tomorrow, will see if it can be used for both Landing > and > Taxi with one adjustment. Beam spread is 24 degrees. > > Ron Parigoris > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:38 AM PST US From: "craig bastin" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Retractable Landing light or LED Gee a "gas" light hu who gets the job of climbing out front to light the thing for landing :) but seriously I take it you are referring to a HID xenon bulb. craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of JEFF ROBERTS Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2009 4:25 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Retractable Landing light or LED I meant to send this the last time this thread was up but didn't have time. Us folks in the advertising world seem to be working twice as hard for half the money these days. Anyway, here is a shot of the front of Gold Rush. Just in case one of you might want to take the simple way out of the landing light issue. This is one of the new gas lights. At first I thought it interfered with the cooling but after some testing with used oil runs the light wasn't the cause. It ended up being some bad connectors for my stratomaster engine monitor. Regards, Jeff R. A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 170 hours but the runway is too soggy to fly right now. I think the droughts over here in mid Tennessee! Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 8:18 PM ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:21:42 PM PST US From: "Ray" Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Wed 14th Thruxton Hi Paddy, Sounds like a good call. Count me in. Ray Wren XL-2 N518XL --------Reply Separator---------- On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:03:03 +0000, "Paddy Clarke" said: > Hi Folks, > There appear to be no suitable vouchers this month, and we've done > most of the central airfields recently, so how about Thruxton?. 2 > good runways (1 hard), and a good cafe. It could be a bit misty at > first - hopefully clearing up by the usual time, 1200. > All the best, Paddy > > Paddy Clarke > Europa G-KIMM > > > -- Ray raymondwren@fastmail.co.uk ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:05:47 PM PST US From: phil brookman Europa project wanted will consider one in latish stages uk based 07910 235 321 or pjb12345uk@yahoo.co.uk ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:58:46 PM PST US From: "JR Gowing" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ampreg 20. Mike I have 4 containers of Ampreag resin but can't buy hardener Not produced now I understand Alsosaid that West Sysem hardener will send it off - but not good idea for aircraft use! JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Parkin To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: Europa-List: Ampreg 20. Can anyone tell me the best place to buy Ampreg 20 in the UK. 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The Professional version does not have this message ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:33:35 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Retractable Landing light or LED Yes, does that landing light run off of kerosene, propane or natural gas???? :)#) Jeff- nice light installation. It looks as if it was always there. Those HID lights put out quite a beam. I have plans to use the same engine monitor. Were those bad connectors on the unit itself, or were they some that you put in? Regards, Greg Gee a "gas" light hu who gets the job of climbing out front to light the thing for landing :) but seriously I take it you are referring to a HID xenon bulb. craig Subject: Re: Europa-List: Retractable Landing light or LED .. .. .. This is one of the new gas lights. .. .. .. Regards, Jeff R. A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 170 hours but the runway is too soggy to fly right now. I think the droughts over here in mid Tennessee! ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:03 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Retractable Landing light or LED HI Greg, They we're from my cheep selection. Lows etc. Anyway I like the monitor and I'm sure the newer ones are better. I had one of the first. The light runs on propane by the way. Those tanks are heavy;o) Jeff R. A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 170 hours and climbing slowly. On Jan 13, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Greg Fuchs wrote: > > > Yes, > does that landing light run off of kerosene, propane or natural > gas???? :)#) > > Jeff- nice light installation. It looks as if it was always there. > Those HID > lights put out quite a beam. > > I have plans to use the same engine monitor. Were those bad connectors > on > the unit itself, or were they some that you put in? > > Regards, > Greg > > > > > Gee a "gas" light hu who gets the job of climbing out front to light > the > thing for landing :) > but seriously I take it you are referring to a HID xenon bulb. > > craig > > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Retractable Landing light or LED > > . > . > . > This is one of the new gas lights. > > . > . > . > Regards, > > Jeff R. > A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 170 hours but the runway is too soggy to fly > right now. 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