Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/25/09


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 03:23 AM - Elevator Trim Tab slot. (Remi Guerner)
     2. 06:05 AM - Re: AAE Antennas (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
     3. 07:34 AM - Rotax Preheat update pleae (rampil)
     4. 01:40 PM - Re: Rotax Preheat update pleae (Paul McAllister)
     5. 01:42 PM - Re: Rotax Preheat update pleae (Paul McAllister)
     6. 02:55 PM - Re: Rotax Preheat update pleae (craig bastin)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:23:16 AM PST US
    From: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>
    Subject: Elevator Trim Tab slot.
    Craig, I saw one example of what you describe on Klaus Dietrich Classic Europa. It looks very nice. However considering the catastrophic consequence of a possible jamming of the whole tailplane caused by the sliding plates, I prefer to leave those slots open as most of us do. Regards Remi Guerner F-PGKL >>>>>>>>>>wonder if anyone has devised a way to cover the trim tab slots from the inside with some sort of sliding plate. Or is everyone just leaving the slot open<<<<<<<<<<


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    Time: 06:05:33 AM PST US
    From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
    Subject: Re: AAE Antennas
    In a message dated 1/25/2009 3:11:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, europa-list@matronics.com writes: >>>>>For sure the peak power is up to 250 watts but the mean power is very low. If you worry about that consider your cell phone working at 900 Mhz or so, its in your shirt pocket most of the time responding to updates from the base station every so often, and then you get it out and place it next to your ear and make continuous transmission's (its true duplex operation !) for several tens of minutes. And if you are on the fringes of a cell the power is ramped up to maintain communication.<<<<< Hey Tim, You are correct that transponders pulses are short bursts. You are also correct that your cell phone does update periodically from the overlaying cellular system and does in fact transmit and receive from the controlling cell routinely, regardless of whether or not you are making a phone call. Often, you will hear the update happening on your car radio speakers, for incidence. This updating is done to keep track of where the mobile is in the system and to verify the mobile's authenticity and registration within the system, among other reasons. However, you are incorrect about "true duplex operation" of cellular telephones. This is my primary area of expertise with RF and one with which I am intimately familiar. Cellular, PCS and SMR operate half duplex. The switch between transmission and reception on your phone happens extremely fast, thus is usually imperceptible to your ear in most cases. Occasionally, though, it is perceptible if you listen closely. Ever noticed how two people talking at the same time on a cell to cell call can't hear both sides of the conversation as you would, say with a land line? Very often you have to repeat what was just said if two people talk at the same time on a cell to cell call because only half of the audio of the conversation is being transmitted. This happens because your phone is operating half duplex, not full duplex. This half duplex operation done for a variety of reasons, but the primary reason these days is to extend the battery life of your mobile. This scheme has been used since day one in the USA when the original cellular protocol was implemented in the mid 1980's. I would imagine it is the same in the UK since USA based GSM mobiles will work in your country provided a local SIM chip is installed. Another point to consider is your hand held cell phone operates at 6/10ths of a watt at it's maximum power level. The "ramping up" you mention is referred to in the industry as power stepping of the mobile. In urban areas where you are in close proximity to the controlling cellular base station indeed your phone will often operate at considerably lower power settings, then step up to higher power levels as either you move farther away from the cell, or as your mobile's signal as "seen" from the controlling cell drops below predetermined levels because of physical or atmospheric issues blocking or partially blocking your phone's signal. With some digital transmission schemes, particularly GSM and CDMA, power stepping is also employed in areas of dense RF saturation. With this in mind, and coupled with skin effect, which is the tendency for weak signals to pass around your body rather than through it because your body is made up primarily of water, you are in no danger of ill effects from a cell phone's non-ionizing radiation, even when held next to your head. Remember, it takes 600-1000 watts of highly concentrated microwave energy to pop a bag of popcorn or defrost tonight's roast for dinner. Your cell phone radiates omni-directionally, so only a small portion of the weak signal being transmitted is directed towards your head when in use. Skin effect causes that weak signal to pass around, not into, your head. Transponder antennae, on the other hand, in close proximity, say closer than two wave lengths, do, IMHO, pose a significant RF hazard when the exposure occurs repeatedly over a long period of time, even with the short burst duration. This is particularly true for those of us, like myself, who are routinely exposed to high levels of RF. While the nominal power output of a typical transponder is around 250 watts, peak power is usually rated in the two kilowatt range and this does not take into account the gain of the antenna. Granted, these are indeed short bursts, but why expose yourself to this power level unnecessarily, even for short bursts? (unless of course, you are beyond child bearing years or have no desire to father children) If you keep the transponder antenna at least two wave lengths away from your body roughly 96% of the energy is dissipated within this distance. Skin effect takes care of the rest. There are certainly more pressing issues to consider when building and flying our wonderful little birds. I didn't intend to sound as if being exposed to 1090 Mhz transponder signals will cause you to grow extra appendages. It certainly won't. However, unnecessary exposure to RF certainly should not be ignored, Repeated exposure can damage your retinas, among other things. I know several long time HAM radio operators who wish they had heeded the warning. In this day and age we are all exposed to a wide variety of RF. In fact, most people would be very concerned if they knew first hand what they are exposed to in their day to day lives. In my humble opinion, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being cautious. Regards, John Lawton Whitwell, TN (TN89) N245E - Flying **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! cemailfooterNO62)


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    Time: 07:34:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Rotax Preheat update pleae
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Hi Guys, Its been two years since preheaters have been discussed here. Paul, Are you still happy with the Reiff? Anybody else happy or unhappy? Any new data on the JC Whitney variant?? Has someone found an auto parts equivalent to the oil tank band heater and its thermostat?? It's 16F here today (brrrrrrrr, shiverrrrrrr) but bright VFR -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226694#226694


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    Time: 01:40:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax Preheat update pleae
    From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
    Hi Ira, The Reiff is working fine for me. He sells two variations for the Rotax. One heats the engine block, oil tank and the coolant. The other model, which I purchased is minus the coolant heater. When the unit arrived I realized it was something that probably could be fabricated easily by purchasing a couple of the small heating pads from an auto parts store and putting one on the engine and one on the oil tank. The Reiff heater does have thermostat for the oil tank, so you would have to fabricate this as well. BTW, Reiff did confirm that the cement for the pads is JB Weld Paul


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    Time: 01:42:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rotax Preheat update pleae
    From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
    BTW, it has just struggled up to 12F here. I have been at the hanger working on removing my engine, and although its heated, it was just too darn cold to work. > > It's 16F here today (brrrrrrrr, shiverrrrrrr) but bright VFR > > -------- > Ira N224XS


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    Time: 02:55:29 PM PST US
    From: "craig bastin" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
    Subject: Rotax Preheat update pleae
    16f hu, one thing, good performance at that temp, if you can get it warmed up -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of rampil Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 1:33 AM Subject: Europa-List: Rotax Preheat update pleae Hi Guys, Its been two years since preheaters have been discussed here. Paul, Are you still happy with the Reiff? Anybody else happy or unhappy? Any new data on the JC Whitney variant?? Has someone found an auto parts equivalent to the oil tank band heater and its thermostat?? It's 16F here today (brrrrrrrr, shiverrrrrrr) but bright VFR -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226694#226694 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 6:13 PM




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