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1. 02:40 AM - FW: airplane pictures (Robt.C.Harrison)
2. 01:23 PM - Bouncing Mono Classic (Frank Kusserow)
3. 03:52 PM - Re: Bouncing Mono Classic (rparigoris)
4. 04:23 PM - Re: Bouncing Mono Classic (ALAN YERLY)
5. 05:37 PM - Re: Need Redux? I need a couple more orders! (Ralph K. Hallett III)
6. 09:00 PM - Mono Wheel Tyre (p-a.austin)
7. 11:22 PM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Bouncing_Mono_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Classic? (Carl Pattinson)
8. 11:53 PM - Re: Bouncing Mono Classic (nigel charles)
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Subject: | FW: airplane pictures |
Hi! ll
A school friend on OZ has sent me these . Allthough many are not
relevant to
Europa business the ones of Wing Tip Vortices are of particular note
when
understanding "wake turbulence separation" on take off in your Europa or
for
that matter wherever you should encounter it.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
Even if you're not into aviation, these are pretty awesome pictures!
Contrail from Boeing 747.
Boeing 747 past a half Moon.
Boeing 757 against a full Moon.
Boeing 757 at Gatwick with wake vortex.
Boeing 757 showing wing vortex on clouds.
Boeing 767 wing vortex on clouds.
The Boeing 787 Dreamliner
A7'S Davis-Monthan AFB, Tucson, AZ
Airbus A-340 rainbow contrail.
EMIRATES 1.5 billion dollar Airbus A-380 - since wrecked. If you
didn't
get
the e-mail of this plane having had a "nubie" crew giving it a full
power
test
in front of a concrete blast deflector then e-mail me for a copy .
Airbus A-330 landing at Amsterdam with dramatic sky.
Russian Antonov 225 on ground - largest plane in world.
Camera at FL 340, Boeing 747 at FL 350, and Boeing 777 at FL 380.
CONCORDE 101, the last official flight.
Concorde 101 parked - nose down. Look at stretch marks on skin.
F-15C, fastest takeoff ever measured.
F-15E Strike Eagle - over Wales.
F-111C AARDVARK Sump, and burnout.
FA-18 going Sonic.
FL 330 & FL 340 - going opposite direction with 1000' separation.
Two Sukhoi SU-27's in close and tight - not tricked.
That's all, Folks...
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Subject: | Bouncing Mono Classic |
Dear all,
I am slowly gaining experience with my monowheel, but today I did a few
patterns on a concrete runway (before I mainly used grass strips as a
beginning) and experienced hefty "bouncings" on landing, causing me to
go around twice-although touchdown was quite smooth it threw me back up
in the air like a rubber ball (I tried touchdown speeds between 45 and
60 kts with steep and shallow approaches, with and without flaring). The
mono is one of the first from 1996-1998 with the red rubberblock as a
shock absorber- since the a/c has now around 600 hrs/700 landings, could
it be the case that it needs to be replaced? Or could it be something
else? I know that the mono tends to bounce if not landed "on the point",
but I never experienced it in my past 25 landings so badly. Did anyone
have a similar experience? I use the large 8.00 tire on it.
Thank you for your help
Frank Kusserow
Germany
D-EJWD/ Europa Mono Classic/912UL/Warp Drive
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Subject: | Re: Bouncing Mono Classic |
Hi Frank
I am not too familiar with Classic monowheels, but think I remember reading that
early Classics did not have dampers.
Do you have two hydraulic dampers installed?
I am pretty sure there was a service bulletin or modification to add.
If Europa does not still list, have a look @ EuropaOwners, I think they have older
information.
I am not sure if Red shock absorbers have holes for dampers. I have a XS monowheel
and it has a black shock absorber with holes for dampers.
If you don't have dampers, probably a good idea to install. Also look at old service
info, there was a mod to early undercarriage mounting frames that adds strengthening
to prevent overcentre stress failure.
Ron Parigoris
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: Bouncing Mono Classic |
Frank,
Congratulations on your starting on grass. Smart move.
I'll research the block with the company. Do you have the dual shock
absorbers installed? Refer to the new manual Chapter 29M
What is your main tire pressure? Many prefer to run a low tire pressure
to preclude bounce. If you've got it firm, you're landing on a beach
ball. Sounds like you've got the pressure up.
We inflated the only mono I have been in at 18 pounds on a 7 inch tire
and found it more comfortable with the pressure at 14-15 psi. The owner
prefers it at this pressure. The plane squats in on landing.
Love to hear other comments from you experience mono pilots on tire
pressure and concrete runways to get a feel for what works for each of
you.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
Europa Dealer USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Kusserow<mailto:frank@kusserow-online.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Bouncing Mono Classic
Dear all,
I am slowly gaining experience with my monowheel, but today I did a
few patterns on a concrete runway (before I mainly used grass strips as
a beginning) and experienced hefty "bouncings" on landing, causing me to
go around twice-although touchdown was quite smooth it threw me back up
in the air like a rubber ball (I tried touchdown speeds between 45 and
60 kts with steep and shallow approaches, with and without flaring). The
mono is one of the first from 1996-1998 with the red rubberblock as a
shock absorber- since the a/c has now around 600 hrs/700 landings, could
it be the case that it needs to be replaced? Or could it be something
else? I know that the mono tends to bounce if not landed "on the point",
but I never experienced it in my past 25 landings so badly. Did anyone
have a similar experience? I use the large 8.00 tire on it.
Thank you for your help
Frank Kusserow
Germany
D-EJWD/ Europa Mono Classic/912UL/Warp Drive
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List<http://www.matronics.com/N
avigator?Europa-List>
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Subject: | Re: Need Redux? I need a couple more orders! |
Bud, please add me to your order list. You can contact me off list for
delivery and purchase details.
Ralph
RK Hallett III
Reno, NV
XS mg
ALAN YERLY wrote:
> OK,
> If you need Redux let me know ASAP. I have three firm orders and need
> a couple more to get into a new batch order.
>
> Email me your needs. Price should be about $260-280 including shipping.
>
> Bud Yerly
> Custom Flight Creations
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Team,
Prior to first flight I replaced the original tyre supplied by Europa with a
Tru-trac 8.00 x 6 x 6 ply after several cycles it started to rub against the
root end of the L/gear forks progressively getting worse, I made up two
spacers ending up with 3mm thick on the right side and 2mm on the left and
all was well. Having now done just over 100 cycles it is starting to rub
again on both sides, I'm loath to add more spacers for fear of getting to
close or starting to conflict with the Rudder cables passing through the
wheel well. As I see it I have two options, replace the Tyre with a narrower
one (would that be a 7.00 x 6 x 6 ?) or remove the swing arm (with all the
work that entails) and get an engineering shop to reform it, which would
allow the removal of the existing spacers and retain the existing tyre. I
would appreciate the forums thoughts on the pro's and cons as regards the
narrower tyre etc. I use grass strips, tyre at approx 20psi.
Regards
Peter Austin
Classic ZK-ZEB.
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Subject: | =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Bouncing_Mono_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Classic? |
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The tyre pressures are the key especially on hard surfaces. Anything above
20psi and the bounce can be horrendous.
Landing at the correct airspeed also helps (too fast and a bounce is
guaranteed). Even after 200 hrs I still get a frequent bounce on landing -
just stay with it and control the aircraft - apply the brake as soon as
possible but dont be heavy handed or you risk a ground loop - apply
intermittently till the speed has reduced sufficiently.
Carl
G-LABS
----- Original Message -----
From: ALAN YERLY
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bouncing Mono Classic
Frank,
Congratulations on your starting on grass. Smart move.
I'll research the block with the company. Do you have the dual shock
absorbers installed? Refer to the new manual Chapter 29M
What is your main tire pressure? Many prefer to run a low tire pressure to
preclude bounce. If you've got it firm, you're landing on a beach ball.
Sounds like you've got the pressure up.
We inflated the only mono I have been in at 18 pounds on a 7 inch tire and
found it more comfortable with the pressure at 14-15 psi. The owner prefers
it at this pressure. The plane squats in on landing.
Love to hear other comments from you experience mono pilots on tire
pressure and concrete runways to get a feel for what works for each of you.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
Europa Dealer USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Kusserow
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Bouncing Mono Classic
Dear all,
I am slowly gaining experience with my monowheel, but today I did a few
patterns on a concrete runway (before I mainly used grass strips as a
beginning) and experienced hefty "bouncings" on landing, causing me to go
around twice-although touchdown was quite smooth it threw me back up in the
air like a rubber ball (I tried touchdown speeds between 45 and 60 kts with
steep and shallow approaches, with and without flaring). The mono is one of
the first from 1996-1998 with the red rubberblock as a shock absorber- since
the a/c has now around 600 hrs/700 landings, could it be the case that it
needs to be replaced? Or could it be something else? I know that the mono
tends to bounce if not landed "on the point", but I never experienced it in
my past 25 landings so badly. Did anyone have a similar experience? I use
the large 8.00 tire on it.
Thank you for your help
Frank Kusserow
Germany
D-EJWD/ Europa Mono Classic/912UL/Warp Drive
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref
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Subject: | Bouncing Mono Classic |
If you run the tyre at low pressure check that the brake caliper doesn't
rub against the tyre. This is particularly a problem if the caliper is
in the original low position. Even when it is visually clear,
compression on landing and tight turns whilst taxying can cause the
caliper to rub against the sidewall. Look for a circular mark on the
sidewall during walkrounds. Rotating the caliper rearwards to be at
least the in line with the trailing arm is a good idea.
Nigel Charles
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ALAN YERLY
Sent: 28 January 2009 23:58
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bouncing Mono Classic
Frank,
Congratulations on your starting on grass. Smart move.
I'll research the block with the company. Do you have the dual shock
absorbers installed? Refer to the new manual Chapter 29M
What is your main tire pressure? Many prefer to run a low tire pressure
to preclude bounce. If you've got it firm, you're landing on a beach
ball. Sounds like you've got the pressure up.
We inflated the only mono I have been in at 18 pounds on a 7 inch tire
and found it more comfortable with the pressure at 14-15 psi. The owner
prefers it at this pressure. The plane squats in on landing.
Love to hear other comments from you experience mono pilots on tire
pressure and concrete runways to get a feel for what works for each of
you.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
Europa Dealer USA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Kusserow <mailto:frank@kusserow-online.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:04 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Bouncing Mono Classic
Dear all,
I am slowly gaining experience with my monowheel, but today I did a few
patterns on a concrete runway (before I mainly used grass strips as a
beginning) and experienced hefty "bouncings" on landing, causing me to
go around twice-although touchdown was quite smooth it threw me back up
in the air like a rubber ball (I tried touchdown speeds between 45 and
60 kts with steep and shallow approaches, with and without flaring). The
mono is one of the first from 1996-1998 with the red rubberblock as a
shock absorber- since the a/c has now around 600 hrs/700 landings, could
it be the case that it needs to be replaced? Or could it be something
else? I know that the mono tends to bounce if not landed "on the point",
but I never experienced it in my past 25 landings so badly. Did anyone
have a similar experience? I use the large 8.00 tire on it.
Thank you for your help
Frank Kusserow
Germany
D-EJWD/ Europa Mono Classic/912UL/Warp Drive
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