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Sat 01/31/09


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 01:56 AM - Re: Bouncing Mono Classic (Robert C Harrison)
     2. 02:57 AM - Tank filler flange (David Steade)
     3. 06:19 AM - Re: Instrument module access cover - Fuses (Steve Hagar)
     4. 03:41 PM - Re: Instrument module access cover - Fuses (Robert C Harrison)
     5. 08:18 PM - Wing Walk Tape (Troy Maynor)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:56:30 AM PST US
    From: "Robert C Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Bouncing Mono Classic
    =91bout time you got it stretched!??????????????????/ Regards Bob H Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rick Sent: 30 January 2009 15:22 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Bouncing Mono Classic Jeez Justin Don't try that on my 300 metre strip with no wind and at gross! Rick Morris G-RIKS 912S Tri 500 hours. _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Justin Kennedy Sent: 30 January 2009 14:43 Subject: Europa-List: Bouncing Mono Classic Hi All, Although an avid reader of this forum rarely feel that I have something that would contribute to the body of knowledge when you guys are so on top of what you are doing. However =93bouncing mono classics=94 was something that I was good at until it cost me a propeller (no change out of =A31000). My mono classic has the shock absorbers and the narrow tyre that never rubs. It also has the brake calliper rotated to the back. I run the Type at 18 to 24 psi. After much deliberation and practice I get a slight skip 50% of the time and grease it on about 45% of the time. The other 5% include =93go arounds=94 and ones I would call =93untidy=94. This is a huge improvement on my original tally. The main thing is that I am now 95% confident on the approach and enjoy the fact that it is unlikely to cost me another propeller and if it does I will deserve it. While I agree with everything people have said, the speed over the threshold and landing is very, very critical. I talked to many an instructor and I am very grateful to the one that came up with the following. The speed on the round out should decay through =93the stall speed plus 10% plus half the wind speed. I then add 10 kts to give the threshold speed. My stall speed is 42Kts with full flaps, add 10% to give 47kts (that=92s rounded up =BD a knot) and say, for example, a ten knot head wind component gives 52kts. Add ten knots to that and I should come over the threshold with the speed decaying through 62kts. I normally come down the approach at 70kts more if it is needed. I let the speed decay the over the threshold at the calculated speed. At this point I remove the remaining throttle slowly so that the round out is slightly less violent. Sudden removal of all throttle requires a pronounced round out which makes the timing of the manoeuvre very critical. Smooth removal of throttle removes the need to round out so quickly. Round out too quickly you don=92t get the high rate of sink required to sink through the ground effect with unfortunate consequences. Wow that sounds really complicated but it is how I arrived at an easy relationship with my aeroplane. So when the controller gives me the wind speed, I think 47+ the half the wind speed or it=92s head on component if it is very crosswind. Add 10 kts and that=92s what I am aiming to be decaying through when I cross the threshold. (I add a PUF check here (Pitch ' Undercarriage ' Flap) After that it is just practice. I used it in anger landing at Calais one day with a 35kt wind and it resulted in an absolute greaser. In actual fact the =93no wind=94 situation is more difficult and the formula works for that too. I apologise if all this speed stuff is common knowledge but it wasn=92t mentioned in any of the posts on the subject. Happy Landings Justin Justin Kennedy G-ZTED Europa Classic Monowheel 912S with Airmaster Prop href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matron h ref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c 07:37 Checked by AVG. 30/01/2009 07:37


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    Time: 02:57:09 AM PST US
    From: "David Steade" <steade@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Tank filler flange
    Hi I'm building a Tri-gear XS from a kit dating back to 2001. I have the filler cap but seem to be short of the filler flange that bonds into the fuselage. Does anyone in the UK have one for sale? Regards David Steade


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    Time: 06:19:06 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Instrument module access cover - Fuses
    There is no fuse in there that would result in any catastrophy if it could not be replaced. I have a main bus, and essential bus, and a battery bus. If a fuse blows and it has been properly sized and tested for the circuit it deserves to stay blown for the remainder of the flight. Something has gone wrong and deserves to be troubleshot on the ground. Steve Hagar A143 Mesa, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert C Harrison Sent: 1/30/2009 2:57:42 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Instrument module access cover Hi! Raimo. I have to somehow change my radio stack to accommodate my Mode S Transponder and since it is the top unit it is out of sight from the engine side of my FWF removable panel. I expect that I will cut out a sizeable panel, construct some flanges and make such a flap removable since my panel is not removable. I dont consider the Europa Panel to be a structural item anyway and provided such cut out is re-enforced I dont see a problem. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG PS if Steve Hagar is reading this his reply re:- fuses in such a place concerns me that he can access the fuses from the P1 position if he has to change one in flight? Bob H -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio Sent: 30 January 2009 09:52 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Instrument module access cover Strange! I have not but desided to do and it was just yesterday! That is because I need access behind the radiorack and also because my warning buzzers (stall and gear) are there I cannot hear them loud enough. I am going to do a net covered acces hole and large enough for my hand. Raimo OH-XRT ----- Original Message ----- From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:37 AM Subject: Europa-List: Instrument module access cover Hi Group Has anyone installed an instrument module access cover just to the left of the tray on the curved vertical portion? Any pictures / description what you did? Thx. Ron Parigoris href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c - The Europa-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - Thank you for your generous support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 03:41:59 PM PST US
    From: "Robert C Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Instrument module access cover - Fuses
    Sorry Steve I read your item as if there were fuses in there. I can't read it again because I deleted it? Regards Bob H Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hagar Sent: 31 January 2009 13:54 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Instrument module access cover - Fuses There is no fuse in there that would result in any catastrophy if it could not be replaced. I have a main bus, and essential bus, and a battery bus. If a fuse blows and it has been properly sized and tested for the circuit it deserves to stay blown for the remainder of the flight. Something has gone wrong and deserves to be troubleshot on the ground. Steve Hagar A143 Mesa, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert C Harrison <mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> Sent: 1/30/2009 2:57:42 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Instrument module access cover Hi! Raimo. I have to somehow change my radio stack to accommodate my Mode S Transponder and since it is the top unit it is out of sight from the engine side of my FWF removable panel. I expect that I will cut out a sizeable panel, construct some flanges and make such a flap removable since my panel is not removable. I don't consider the Europa Panel to be a structural item anyway and provided such cut out is re-enforced I don't see a problem. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG PS if Steve Hagar is reading this his reply re:- fuses in such a place concerns me that he can access the fuses from the P1 position if he has to change one in flight? Bob H -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio Sent: 30 January 2009 09:52 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Instrument module access cover Strange! I have not but desided to do and it was just yesterday! That is because I need access behind the radiorack and also because my warning buzzers (stall and gear) are there I cannot hear them loud enough. I am going to do a net covered acces hole and large enough for my hand. Raimo OH-XRT ----- Original Message ----- From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:37 AM Subject: Europa-List: Instrument module access cover Hi Group Has anyone installed an instrument module access cover just to the left of the tray on the curved vertical portion? Any pictures / description what you did? Thx. Ron Parigoris href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matr onhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c & nbsp; - The Europa-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigato%0d%0a%20r%0d%0a%20?Europa-List> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - Thank you for your generous support! &nb s p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution <>


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    Time: 08:18:30 PM PST US
    From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
    Subject: Wing Walk Tape
    Hey Fellow Europa Folks, Hope all are flying or building well. Question: for you that have put wing walk on, how wide a path is best up the wing? ACS sell some that is clear and is 16" x 30" and another variety that comes in 6" or 12" wide, sold by the lineal foot. I was thinking of buying one of the 16" x 30" and splitting it down the middle to do both wings. I think the clear or translucent would be preferable to white or black. White would most likely not be the matching shade to the white on the plane and black would cook the wing. Thoughts? Troy Maynor




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