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1. 03:19 AM - Re: Mod 64b - Revised Hi Top (G-IANI)
2. 03:21 AM - Re: Mod 64b - Revised Hi Top (Frans Veldman)
3. 04:33 AM - Re: First Flight Kit #A221 - N914XL (Robert Borger)
4. 04:55 AM - Re: Bouncing Mono Classic (Charlie Laverty)
5. 06:03 AM - Plenum sockets (Richard Iddon)
6. 06:33 AM - Re: Plenum sockets (rampil)
7. 06:33 AM - Re: Plenum sockets (Karl Heindl)
8. 06:51 AM - Re: Mod 64b - Revised Hi Top (flyingphil2)
9. 07:34 AM - A caution (Fergus Kyle)
10. 08:35 AM - Re: First Flight Kit #A221 - N914XL (Jeff B)
11. 08:43 AM - Re: Plenum sockets (Jeff B)
12. 08:51 AM - Re: First Flight Kit #A221 - N914XL (Robert Borger)
13. 09:13 AM - Re: Plenum sockets (Jeff B)
14. 09:37 AM - Re: Plenum sockets (rick)
15. 01:54 PM - Re: Plenum sockets (karelvranken)
16. 02:40 PM - Master Brake Cylinder (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
17. 02:42 PM - Outrigger mod. (Jim Brown)
18. 03:53 PM - Re: Master Brake Cylinder (ALAN YERLY)
19. 04:48 PM - Re: Mod 64b - Revised Hi Top (Rick Stockton)
20. 05:05 PM - Cooling Shroud (JEFF ROBERTS)
21. 05:27 PM - Re: Cooling Shroud (Robert Borger)
22. 06:49 PM - Sun N Fun (Erich Trombley)
23. 08:41 PM - Re: Cooling Shroud (Michael Grass)
24. 09:14 PM - Re: Cooling Shroud (Paul Boulet)
25. 11:19 PM - Re: Cooling Shroud (Greg Fuchs)
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Subject: | Mod 64b - Revised Hi Top |
Phil
The point you raised are applicable to Mod 64 rather than Mod 64B.
Unfortunately when I wrote the changes/additions for 64B I did not revise
the basic instructions for fitting the high top. I hope the following
help:-
a) The rear bulkhead is in the "tail" (ie the lower moulding) so does not
change.
B) The pitch control stop / pushrod containment. The Main manual Page 20-4
gives the dimensions for the bulkhead. This has never been corrected for
the Hi-Top. The upper portion (above the dowel and rubber hose) needs to be
(from the drawings I have) 10mm taller.
C) The baggage bay rear bulkhead. In the centre (above the middle of the
"D" panel) it needs to be 27mm taller. No dimensions are given (see 28-9).
To get a good fit you will be shaping it to your aircraft. From memory
there is sufficient spare material in the moulding supplied.
D) The fuel filler (see 30-2). The filler goes in the normal position
relative to the door opening in the upper moulding. The instructions are to
trim the rubber hose elbow to fit. There is sufficient material to allow
for the 30mm increase in length.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
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Subject: | Re: Mod 64b - Revised Hi Top |
flyingphil2 wrote:
> <ptiller@lolacars.com>
>
> I'm planning on doing Mod 64b in due course. I'm wondering how much
> to stick to the manual ahead of this though as I can see the sizes of
> various parts being wrong.
>
> If the top half of the fuselage is raised by 2" at the front, what
> happens to the following:
>
> a. Rear Fuselage bulkhead.
> b. Pitch Control Stop / Pushrod
> containment bulkhead.
I'm assuming you are still building your airplane? Otherwise this
modification would be a major surgery.
To my experience, the adjustments of these parts is very small, and
falls within the "fiddle-range" you would expect anyway (make it
slighltly too large and trim as needed). I'm assuming you "test-fit" the
top in order to cut these parts to their correct lengths.
> c. Baggage Bay rear bulkhead.
This one definitely needs some changes. I used 3mm plywood to make an
insert. It is attached to the flange of the bulkhead with some bid on
both sizes. When installing the bulkhead, it is a good idea to make the
plies of BID somewhat larger so at the sides they cover both the insert
and the bulkhead.
> d. Fuel Filler
> pipe.
In my situation, this one is flexible enough to fit nicely.
BTW, the mod I did was slightly different. It started as a factory
installed mod-A (bought the kit from previous owner who had all the
factory accelerated options installed) , and when changing to mod-B, I
incorporated the changes only halfway. That is; I cut half of the
firewall enlargement away, and lowered the window-section also only
half-way. I bought the special upper cowling, and also trimmed it to a
size halfway between a normal cowling and a raised cowling. Now I still
have more panel space (1.5 inch taller firewall), excellent view over
the nose (1.5 inch more window at the bottom), quite a "standard"
exterior (I found the mod-B too much "aquarium-style" but taste is
personal of course), and the windscreen in a little bit more streamlined
position than in the standard mod-B. If you would go this route, you
will need the normal windscreen, but it takes some carefull cutting and
a slight extension of the rear flanges to get it all fitted nicely.
Frans
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Subject: | Re: First Flight Kit #A221 - N914XL |
Fred,
I know. It sounds simple, but the weather is playing havoc with
things right now. I can't find a decent weather window to have an
opportunity to fly the thing myself. We have had 20 - 35 mph winds
since the morning after the first flight. This morning is rain and SW
winds at 15 - 25 mph. Tomorrow is T-bumpers with 15 - 25 winds.
Wednesday is winds to 20 mph. Maybe Thursday to fly it myself the
first time. Friday is rain again. Saturday is now looking like a
possibility and Sunday is rain again. Then I go back to work on the
next Monday.
If I can get some time in the aircraft between now and Monday, I hope
to fly it after work any day weather permits. So we'll see how it
goes between now and the end of April. But the spring is always
chancy for weather in N. Texas.
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Feb 8, 2009, at 22:53, Fred Klein wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Robert Borger wrote:
>
>> Don't I wish I could fly those 40 hours off by SnF!!
>
> Well Bob, with only an architect's grasp of the math, it seems to me
> that you'd only be talking about 40 minutes/day...Fred
>
> do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Bouncing Mono Classic |
hi Graham
pc problem, sorry you didnt make it this far. If you
recieve this ok can you reply?
regards
Chas
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From: "Graham Singleton" <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bouncing Mono Classic
> <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
> Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> I used it in anger landing at Calais one day with a 35kt wind and it
>> resulted in an absolute greaser. In actual fact the no wind situation
>> is more difficult and the formula works for that too.
>>
>> I apologise if all this speed stuff is common knowledge but it wasnt
>> mentioned in any of the posts on the subject.
>>
>> Happy Landings
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> Justin Kennedy
>>
>> G-ZTED Europa Classic Monowheel 912S with Airmaster Prop
>>
> Justin
> you also mentioned using a little throttle on finals which I forgot about.
> The sink rate is quite high with throttle closed so I would leave power on
> until after round out. One less thing to think of during the flare ;-) ?
> Graham
>
>
>
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Thanks to all for the ideas re door gas struts. Should be sorted now.
Next problem. The sockets on the plenum chamber for my 912S, where they
go into the rubber hoses to connect to the carbs, have collapsed
somewhat. I guess it is the combination of the heat from the engine
softening the glass and it being under compression from the hose clips.
I was considering cutting them off and reduxing in a couple of short
pieces of 2in. aluminium tube as replacements.
Any one else had this problem and how solved?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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Subject: | Re: Plenum sockets |
Hi Richard,
The carb socket area should not see particularly high temperatures.
The clamps are probably too tight. Of course, if the plenum pops
out in flight, the engine will run very rough.
Do you support the plenum on the firewall side of the box? I have a strap
of aluminum coming up to a nut plate on the back wall of the plenum.
It seems to help support the intake system combined with only moderate
tightening of the band clamps
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=229324#229324
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I simply re-enforced the plastic by inserting aluminum tubes=2C I think the
diameter should be 1 7/8 th inch.
No need for redux=2C just some heat to get them in.
Karl
From: riddon@sent.comTo: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: Europa-List: Ple
num socketsDate: Mon=2C 9 Feb 2009 14:01:29 +0000
Thanks to all for the ideas re door gas struts. Should be sorted now.
Next problem. The sockets on the plenum chamber for my 912S=2C where they
go into the rubber hoses to connect to the carbs=2C have collapsed somewhat
. I guess it is the combination of the heat from the engine softening the g
lass and it being under compression from the hose clips.
I was considering cutting them off and reduxing in a couple of short pieces
of 2in. aluminium tube as replacements.
Any one else had this problem and how solved?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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Subject: | Re: Mod 64b - Revised Hi Top |
Thanks for all the responses. That pretty much answers my questions and so I'll
just carry on as per manual but make sure I don't trim anything yet.
Regards,
Phil
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With respect, let me say that McMaster-Carr has always treated
my orders with care and dispatch. I suspect that the Homeland Security regs,
which doubtless override any that were in previous effect, don't know that
Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia are not
necessarily close friends with a country that shared US protection from the
red hordes, saved some from the Tehran mob, accepted common deadly work in
Kandahar and provide them with more oil than all the others combined. I
think that's not all they don't know.
I have had some support from valued friends but don't wish to
involve anyone.
I will doubtless acquire my deadly items from Germany where they
know how to make things. Canada is becoming a nation of procurers not
producers.
Many thanks for the offers, team!
Ferg
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Subject: | Re: First Flight Kit #A221 - N914XL |
Bob, how about SNF?
Jeff
Robert Borger wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> I'm looking forward to seeing all the Europa crowd at KOSH this year,
> but I don't think I'll be flying the Europa. I'm pretty much committed
> to flying a Little Toot Sport Biplane up to KOSH this year.
>
> Check Six,
> Bob Borger
> Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
> http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
> Aircraft Flying!
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208
> Home: 940-497-2123
> Cel: 817-992-1117
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2009, at 8:42, Michael Grass wrote:
>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Congratulations,
>>
>> Hope we will see you at Oshkosh this year with your Europa. You are a
>> great contributor to the Europa community. Keep up the great work and
>> enjoy a lot of blue air.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Michael Grass
>> A266 Trigear (built on hold till the snow is gone)
>> Detroit
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Subject: | Re: Plenum sockets |
Richard,
I replaced the plenum's completely using 1.75" OD thin wall aluminum
tube from ACS. I cut the old ones off, inserted the tubing and glassed
them in with 2 layers of bid. Tighten them as much as you want, now.
They "ain't goin' nowhere"!
Jeff - Baby Blue
430+ hrs
Richard Iddon wrote:
> Thanks to all for the ideas re door gas struts. Should be sorted now.
>
>
>
> Next problem. The sockets on the plenum chamber for my 912S, where they
> go into the rubber hoses to connect to the carbs, have collapsed
> somewhat. I guess it is the combination of the heat from the engine
> softening the glass and it being under compression from the hose clips.
>
>
>
> I was considering cutting them off and reduxing in a couple of short
> pieces of 2in. aluminium tube as replacements.
>
>
>
> Any one else had this problem and how solved?
>
>
>
> Richard Iddon G-RIXS
>
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
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Subject: | Re: First Flight Kit #A221 - N914XL |
Depends on weather (to fly off the 40 hrs) and work schedule (may know
more about that next week).
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 9, 2009, at 10:33, Jeff B <topglock@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Bob, how about SNF?
>
> Jeff
>
> Robert Borger wrote:
>> Michael,
>> I'm looking forward to seeing all the Europa crowd at KOSH this
>> year, but I don't think I'll be flying the Europa. I'm pretty much
>> committed to flying a Little Toot Sport Biplane up to KOSH this year.
>> Check Six,
>> Bob Borger
>> Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
>> http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
>> Aircraft Flying!
>> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
>> Corinth, TX 76208
>> Home: 940-497-2123
>> Cel: 817-992-1117
>> On Feb 8, 2009, at 8:42, Michael Grass wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> Congratulations,
>>>
>>> Hope we will see you at Oshkosh this year with your Europa. You
>>> are a great contributor to the Europa community. Keep up the great
>>> work and enjoy a lot of blue air.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Michael Grass
>>> A266 Trigear (built on hold till the snow is gone)
>>> Detroit
>> ---
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>
>
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Subject: | Re: Plenum sockets |
***CORRECTION***
That should read 2" aluminum tube. Sorry for the fopa...
Jeff
Jeff B wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> I replaced the plenum's completely using 1.75" OD thin wall aluminum
> tube from ACS. I cut the old ones off, inserted the tubing and glassed
> them in with 2 layers of bid. Tighten them as much as you want, now.
> They "ain't goin' nowhere"!
>
> Jeff - Baby Blue
> 430+ hrs
>
> Richard Iddon wrote:
>> Thanks to all for the ideas re door gas struts. Should be sorted now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Next problem. The sockets on the plenum chamber for my 912S, where
>> they go into the rubber hoses to connect to the carbs, have collapsed
>> somewhat. I guess it is the combination of the heat from the engine
>> softening the glass and it being under compression from the hose clips.
>>
>>
>> I was considering cutting them off and reduxing in a couple of short
>> pieces of 2in. aluminium tube as replacements.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any one else had this problem and how solved?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Iddon G-RIXS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
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>>
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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Hi Richard
Funnily enough I have found a similar thing had started and was thinking
about how to fix! Let me know what you decide.
Cheers
Rick
Rick Morris
G-RIKS Tri 500 hours
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Iddon
Sent: 09 February 2009 14:01
Subject: Europa-List: Plenum sockets
Thanks to all for the ideas re door gas struts. Should be sorted now.
Next problem. The sockets on the plenum chamber for my 912S, where they go
into the rubber hoses to connect to the carbs, have collapsed somewhat. I
guess it is the combination of the heat from the engine softening the glass
and it being under compression from the hose clips.
I was considering cutting them off and reduxing in a couple of short pieces
of 2in. aluminium tube as replacements.
Any one else had this problem and how solved?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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Subject: | Re: Plenum sockets |
Richard,
What you suppose to do is exactly what I did from the beginning. Make
the aluminium tube rough outside for good glueing. I also took another
rubber tube of better quality from a racing car shop.
Karel Vranken F-PKRL
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Iddon
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:01 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Plenum sockets
Thanks to all for the ideas re door gas struts. Should be sorted now.
Next problem. The sockets on the plenum chamber for my 912S, where
they go into the rubber hoses to connect to the carbs, have collapsed
somewhat. I guess it is the combination of the heat from the engine
softening the glass and it being under compression from the hose clips.
I was considering cutting them off and reduxing in a couple of short
pieces of 2in. aluminium tube as replacements.
Any one else had this problem and how solved?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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Subject: | Master Brake Cylinder |
Good day All,
I was attempting to bleed my brake system but wasn't having too much luck.
So I pulled my Jamar master cylinder and found that the large seal nearest the
spring was torn to pieces....on BOTH side! I am hoping that this was just an
error in insufficient lubrication when reassembling after I tore the master
cylinder down to clean out the crude that seemed to be left over after the
manufacturing. The part number off the seal is 220-L-4502 along with a 54. If my
resources were correct then this should be made of Buna-N (Nitrile) and is
compatible with my Hydraulic Fluid 41 Mil-H 5606G. The other seal is marked
ADM-45 2110....also Nitrile?
So here are my questions:
1) Am I right about the material and the compatibility?
2) Is there a source for me to order replacement seals in the US?
3) Is there a lubricant that I should be using when I reassemble the
cylinders?
4) Are people still sanding down the outer edge of the white disc to prevent
sticking?
5) Are builders replacing the spring with a stronger one or adding another
spring?
Thanks in advance for any replies.
Mike Duane A207A
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Jabiru 3300
Sensenich R64Z N
Ground Adjustable Prop
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Several years ago there was a mod from one of the builders, which consisted
of- stainless steel tubes,and some washers and grease fittings.This mod
would eliminate the side to side play that occurs with useage of the outrig
ger legs on the monowheel. These tubes were used to take out the loose play
on the bolt that the outrigger pivioted on.-
-
Over time and 800 hours the bolt has worn the aluminum sideplates to where
there is a fair amount of sideplay in the outrigger legs in my plane.
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Does anyone have the instructions on how these stainless steel tubes are as
sembled on the outrigger ???
-
Jim Brown
Monowheel
N398JB-=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: Master Brake Cylinder |
Mike,
Go to www.jamarperformance.com<http://www.jamarperformance.com/> out of
California. They have all the prices, new seals, etc. I cleaned mine
first and reassembled. On one brake I did find a burr, but not anymore.
Just sand it out I do not care to use hydraulic fluid which should
require buna seals. Check with Jamar. I prefer Dot 5 (silicone) as any
leaks do not create a mess on the interior or exterior and there is no
problem with seal compatibility. The problem is that it is tougher to
bleed because the bubbles don't move by fluid movement easily.
Technique on bleeding (once you get your new seals): Get a syringe
which holds about 4 oz of fluid. Any type of pressure container will
do, as long as it will not inject air into the fluid when compressing.
Put a 1/8 - 3/16 hose (I use urethane) on it and attach to the brake
caliper. Open the valve and push the fluid up. Mild pressure of a
couple psi is all it takes. You have to have good fittings on your
syringe because the fluid is slick and if the hose pops off it will go
everywhere. Rotate the brake master on its side and rock it so the
cross hole will allow air to go into the reservoir chamber and up to the
reservoir. It's 30 minutes for the first one and 3 for the second side.
I always make my brake master the highest point in the pressure side to
eliminate air bubble chasing. The reservoir needs to be about 3-6
inches above the masters.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
Europa Dealer.
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To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 5:38 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Master Brake Cylinder
Good day All,
I was attempting to bleed my brake system but wasn't having too much
luck. So I pulled my Jamar master cylinder and found that the large seal
nearest the spring was torn to pieces....on BOTH side! I am hoping that
this was just an error in insufficient lubrication when reassembling
after I tore the master cylinder down to clean out the crude that seemed
to be left over after the manufacturing. The part number off the seal is
220-L-4502 along with a 54. If my resources were correct then this
should be made of Buna-N (Nitrile) and is compatible with my Hydraulic
Fluid 41 Mil-H 5606G. The other seal is marked ADM-45 2110....also
Nitrile?
So here are my questions:
1) Am I right about the material and the compatibility?
2) Is there a source for me to order replacement seals in the US?
3) Is there a lubricant that I should be using when I reassemble the
cylinders?
4) Are people still sanding down the outer edge of the white disc to
prevent sticking?
5) Are builders replacing the spring with a stronger one or adding
another spring?
Thanks in advance for any replies.
Mike Duane A207A
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Jabiru 3300
Sensenich R64Z N
Ground Adjustable Prop
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Subject: | Re: Mod 64b - Revised Hi Top |
The major problem I had with the 64B hi-top was the windscreen fitting.-
I'm going to have a lot of work getting it to fit correctly.- The rear ba
ggage bulkhead fits almost the same as it did before the hi-top mod.- I d
id make the push rod bulkhead taller, but not very much.
--- On Sun, 2/8/09, flyingphil2 <ptiller@lolacars.com> wrote:
From: flyingphil2 <ptiller@lolacars.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 64b - Revised Hi Top
<ptiller@lolacars.com>
Hi,
I'm planning on doing Mod 64b in due course. I'm wondering how much to
stick to the manual ahead of this though as I can see the sizes of various
parts
being wrong.
If the top half of the fuselage is raised by 2" at the front, what happens
to the following:
a. Rear Fuselage bulkhead.
b. Pitch Control Stop / Pushrod containment bulkhead.
c. Baggage Bay rear bulkhead.
d. Fuel Filler pipe.
I presume that if I build all of the above to the manual then none of them
will
reach when the top goes on in the raised position. What have people done a
bout
the items above or does the Mod 64b package include parts to adapt these?
Thanks,
Phil
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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HI All,
After dealing with the uneven cooling issues under the Europa cowl, and
after looking at how all the new LSA planes are cooling the rotax, I
decided to make a cooling shroud or baffle as rotax calls it. I know
something like this came with some of the Kits but not mine. After
seeing the RV-12 at KOSH I decided to call Lockwood to see what one
would cost. We'll the rotax version was $900 + US dollars. So I got the
clay out and started making one. It turned out quite nice. All the air
from the right intake will be funneled up a 2 inch scat tube to feed
the thing.
After talking with Jeff B. of Baby Blue fame he thought it would be
nice if we could fashion a mold for anyone else wanting one. So before
I start the process I thought I'd test the waters on this list. Here
is a picture of it. Jeff & I thought if we made such a mold that we
could send it around to others wanting to lay up such a shroud. A mold
would be a lot easier than the process I went through to make this so
if you are interested let me know. Jeff gets first crack at it but we
could send it on from there. All interested parties please respond back
and we'll see what we can do. It seems to me that better and more even
cooling will make a happier engine.
Best Regards,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours and down for the annual, Mod 71 and
a lot of others.
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Subject: | Re: Cooling Shroud |
Jeff R.,
You have a taker here! I'll be second in line after Jeff B. There
seems to be no problem with mine right now, but it's winter. I can
already see that one cylinder (#4 of course) is quite a bit hotter
than the others. So this is something I want to have in the back
pocket when the time comes.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
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Cel: 817-992-1117
On Feb 9, 2009, at 19:01, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
> HI All,
> After dealing with the uneven cooling issues under the Europa cowl,
> and after looking at how all the new LSA planes are cooling the
> rotax, I decided to make a cooling shroud or baffle as rotax calls
> it. I know something like this came with some of the Kits but not
> mine. After seeing the RV-12 at KOSH I decided to call Lockwood to
> see what one would cost. We'll the rotax version was $900 + US
> dollars. So I got the clay out and started making one. It turned out
> quite nice. All the air from the right intake will be funneled up a
> 2 inch scat tube to feed the thing.
> After talking with Jeff B. of Baby Blue fame he thought it would be
> nice if we could fashion a mold for anyone else wanting one. So
> before I start the process I thought I'd test the waters on this
> list. Here is a picture of it. Jeff & I thought if we made such a
> mold that we could send it around to others wanting to lay up such a
> shroud. A mold would be a lot easier than the process I went through
> to make this so if you are interested let me know. Jeff gets first
> crack at it but we could send it on from there. All interested
> parties please respond back and we'll see what we can do. It seems
> to me that better and more even cooling will make a happier engine.
> Best Regards,
>
> Jeff R.
> A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours and down for the annual, Mod 71
> and a lot of others.
>
>
> <Cooling Baffle.jpg>
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Folks,
For those planning on attending Sun N Fun can you tell me are there any shuttles
available from either Tampa or Orlando to Lakeland? I would like to camp and
as such do not desire to rent a car.
Regards,
Erich Trombley
N28ET Classic Mono 914
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Subject: | Re: Cooling Shroud |
Jeff,
Looks nice. Please put me on the list.
Michael Grass
A266 Trigear
Detroit
----- Original Message -----
From: JEFF ROBERTS
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: 2009-02-09 20:01
Subject: Europa-List: Cooling Shroud
HI All,
After dealing with the uneven cooling issues under the Europa cowl,
and after looking at how all the new LSA planes are cooling the rotax, I
decided to make a cooling shroud or baffle as rotax calls it. I know
something like this came with some of the Kits but not mine. After
seeing the RV-12 at KOSH I decided to call Lockwood to see what one
would cost. We'll the rotax version was $900 + US dollars. So I got the
clay out and started making one. It turned out quite nice. All the air
from the right intake will be funneled up a 2 inch scat tube to feed the
thing.
After talking with Jeff B. of Baby Blue fame he thought it would be
nice if we could fashion a mold for anyone else wanting one. So before I
start the process I thought I'd test the waters on this list. Here is a
picture of it. Jeff & I thought if we made such a mold that we could
send it around to others wanting to lay up such a shroud. A mold would
be a lot easier than the process I went through to make this so if you
are interested let me know. Jeff gets first crack at it but we could
send it on from there. All interested parties please respond back and
we'll see what we can do. It seems to me that better and more even
cooling will make a happier engine.
Best Regards,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours and down for the annual, Mod 71
and a lot of others.
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Subject: | Re: Cooling Shroud |
Simply beautiful.- I'd like to have one too
Paul Boulet, N914PB- Rotax 914 tri gear
--- On Mon, 2/9/09, JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net> wrote:
From: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Cooling Shroud
HI All,
After dealing with the uneven cooling issues under the Europa cowl, and aft
er
looking at how all the new LSA planes are cooling the rotax, I decided to m
ake a
cooling shroud or baffle as rotax calls it. I know something like this came
with
some of the Kits but not mine. After seeing the RV-12 at KOSH I decided to
call
Lockwood to see what one would cost. We'll the rotax version was $900 + US
dollars. So I got the clay out and started making one. It turned out quite
nice.
All the air from the right intake will be funneled up a 2 inch scat tube to
feed
the thing.
After talking with Jeff B. of Baby Blue fame he thought it would be nice if
we
could fashion a mold for anyone else wanting one. So before I start the pr
ocess
I thought I'd test the waters on this list. Here is a picture of it. Jeff
& I thought if we made such a mold that we could send it around to others
wanting to lay up such a shroud. A mold would be a lot easier than the proc
ess I
went through to make this so if you are interested let me know. Jeff gets f
irst
crack at it but we could send it on from there. All interested parties plea
se
respond back and we'll see what we can do. It seems to me that better and
more even cooling will make a happier engine.
Best Regards,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours and down for the annual, Mod 71 and a l
ot
of others.
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Hi Jeff,
I will probably be interested in it, when I get there, in the build.
Regards,
Greg
HI All,
.. A mold would be a lot easier than the process I went through to make this
so if you are interested let me know. Jeff gets first crack at it but we
could send it on from there. All interested parties please respond back and
we'll see what we can do. It seems to me that better and more even cooling
will make a happier engine.
Best Regards,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours and down for the annual, Mod 71 and a
lot of others.
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