---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/14/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:28 AM - Re: TowBar (david miller) 2. 07:11 AM - Ally Sockets (William Harrison) 3. 12:04 PM - Re: TowBar (ALAN YERLY) 4. 12:05 PM - Re: Ally Sockets (ALAN YERLY) 5. 03:05 PM - Windscreen Demister (Graham Higgins) 6. 03:48 PM - Fw: Windscreen Demister (Graham Higgins) 7. 03:53 PM - Re: Windscreen Demister (Paul McAllister) 8. 03:54 PM - Re: Windscreen Demister (Robert C Harrison) 9. 06:53 PM - Re: Windscreen Demister (ALAN YERLY) 10. 08:05 PM - Exhaust Lagging (Troy Maynor) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:50 AM PST US From: david miller Subject: Re: Europa-List: TowBar Bud, I'm pleased to report that the tow bar I got from you works great. Especially appreciated by my 79 year old hangarmate, who can now move my plane to get his Jodel out. It's almost flyable here now, although this morning a friend indicated that he could not get beyond the hangar fence as someone had snapped a key in the frozen lock. Dave A061 do not archive On 13-Feb-09, at 3:02 PM, ALAN YERLY wrote: > Steve, > Here in the States I'm made a tow bar which will use, as we prefer > over here, a double ended threaded bolt which can do double duty as > a tie down on a trailer. > > My towbar brakes down in half and uses a spring for closure. Can > be made with a lock handle, but that adds weight and cost. > > I need a translation, what is an ally socket? > > See my website: www.customflightcreations.com under accessories > and tips for my towbar photo. > > Bud Yerly > Custom Flight Creations > US Europa Dealer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: steve v > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:09 PM > Subject: Europa-List: TowBar > > > > Hiello, Just had the towbar back from a local engineering firm > and it works very well, it uses all the stock facory nosewheel axle > components plus the addition of two ally sockets, http:// > www.europaowners.org/modules.php? > set_albumName=album279&id=P2120799&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index& > include=view_photo.php , > i can post or give you the contact details if anyone wants a set > made, there is no Mod required in the UK - just get it signed off, > > Steve #573 > > > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > > nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matronnbsp; via the Web > title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http:// > forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; title=http:// > www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/ > contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:36 AM PST US From: William Harrison Subject: Europa-List: Ally Sockets That'll be ally meaning aluminium... On 13 Feb 2009, at 20:02, ALAN YERLY wrote: > Steve, > Here in the States I'm made a tow bar which will use, as we prefer > over here, a double ended threaded bolt which can do double duty as > a tie down on a trailer. > > My towbar brakes down in half and uses a spring for closure. Can be > made with a lock handle, but that adds weight and cost. > > I need a translation, what is an ally socket? > > See my website: www.customflightcreations.com under accessories and > tips for my towbar photo. > > Bud Yerly > Custom Flight Creations > US Europa Dealer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: steve v > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:09 PM > Subject: Europa-List: TowBar > > > > > Hiello, Just had the towbar back from a local engineering firm > and it works very well, it uses all the stock facory nosewheel axle > components plus the addition of two ally sockets, http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album279&id=P2120799&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php > , > i can post or give you the contact details if anyone wants a set > made, there is no Mod required in the UK - just get it signed off, > > Steve #573 > > > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > > nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matronnbsp; via the Web > title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http:// > forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contributionhref= > "http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:59 PM PST US From: "ALAN YERLY" Subject: Re: Europa-List: TowBar Dave, I know what you mean, I can't live without mine now in the shop. Hate to report that I got a sunburn spray painting some zinc chromate this morning. Our cold weather is gone down here in Florida. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: david miller To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: TowBar Bud, I'm pleased to report that the tow bar I got from you works great. Especially appreciated by my 79 year old hangarmate, who can now move my plane to get his Jodel out. It's almost flyable here now, although this morning a friend indicated that he could not get beyond the hangar fence as someone had snapped a key in the frozen lock. Dave A061 do not archive On 13-Feb-09, at 3:02 PM, ALAN YERLY wrote: Steve, Here in the States I'm made a tow bar which will use, as we prefer over here, a double ended threaded bolt which can do double duty as a tie down on a trailer. My towbar brakes down in half and uses a spring for closure. Can be made with a lock handle, but that adds weight and cost. I need a translation, what is an ally socket? See my website: www.customflightcreations.com under accessories and tips for my towbar photo. Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations US Europa Dealer ----- Original Message ----- From: steve v To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Europa-List: TowBar > Hiello, Just had the towbar back from a local engineering firm and it works very well, it uses all the stock facory nosewheel axle components plus the addition of two ally sockets, http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album279&id=P21 20799&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php , i can post or give you the contact details if anyone wants a set made, there is no Mod required in the UK - just get it signed off, Steve #573 Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matronnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c============ ===== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?Europa-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:01 PM PST US From: "ALAN YERLY" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ally Sockets Thanks for the translation, Same language, separated by so much sometimes. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: William Harrison To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: Europa-List: Ally Sockets That'll be ally meaning aluminium... On 13 Feb 2009, at 20:02, ALAN YERLY wrote: Steve, Here in the States I'm made a tow bar which will use, as we prefer over here, a double ended threaded bolt which can do double duty as a tie down on a trailer. My towbar brakes down in half and uses a spring for closure. Can be made with a lock handle, but that adds weight and cost. I need a translation, what is an ally socket? See my website: www.customflightcreations.com under accessories and tips for my towbar photo. Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations US Europa Dealer ----- Original Message ----- From: steve v To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Europa-List: TowBar > Hiello, Just had the towbar back from a local engineering firm and it works very well, it uses all the stock facory nosewheel axle components plus the addition of two ally sockets, http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album279&id=P21 20799&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php , i can post or give you the contact details if anyone wants a set made, there is no Mod required in the UK - just get it signed off, Steve #573 Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matronnbsp; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _p; generous bsp; title=http://www.matronics.com/contributionhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c======== ========= http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:20 PM PST US From: "Graham Higgins" Subject: Europa-List: Windscreen Demister Hi Europaphiles, Has anyone felt the need for a demisting system in their Europa? If so, under what conditions? Has anyone who has devised a cabin heating system included demisting as part of this? Have you ever used it in anger? I am considering my cabin heating system from the hot air at the back of the radiator, and wondering if I should include any demisting while on the job - don't want to have to come back later to do it. Regards Graham Higgins, #261 in Oz ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:46 PM PST US From: "Graham Higgins" Subject: Europa-List: Fw: Windscreen Demister ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Higgins" Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: Windscreen Demister > Hi Europaphiles, > Has anyone felt the need for a demisting system in their Europa? If so, > under what conditions? > Has anyone who has devised a cabin heating system included demisting as > part of this? > Have you ever used it in anger? > I am considering my cabin heating system from the hot air at the back of > the radiator, and wondering if I should include any demisting while on the > job - don't want to have to come back later to do it. > Regards Graham Higgins, #261 in Oz ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Windscreen Demister From: Paul McAllister Hi Graham, I blow cold air onto my windscreen and it does a nice job of defrosting. If you take a took at http://www.europa.net.nz/363/index.html under June 2002 you can see the vents I made. December 2003 shows the manifold for the ducts on the instrument panel. You can see the SS heat box on the fire wall under January 2004. The hose lay out can be seen under Friday 20th on February 2004. If you click on the sidebar under flying experiences you will find a link on how I did my cockpit heat. Cheers, Paul ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:48 PM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Windscreen Demister Hi! Graham, Very occasionally on start up without the knee vents open and "TWO UP" I have had misting up and once at 10,000ft without my hot air pick up switched on when I had the screen begin to freeze over also "two up". However my being in the UK and perhaps you being in OZ you my have different considerations. Regards Bob Harrison. G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham Higgins Sent: 14 February 2009 23:02 Subject: Europa-List: Windscreen Demister Hi Europaphiles, Has anyone felt the need for a demisting system in their Europa? If so, under what conditions? Has anyone who has devised a cabin heating system included demisting as part of this? Have you ever used it in anger? I am considering my cabin heating system from the hot air at the back of the radiator, and wondering if I should include any demisting while on the job - don't want to have to come back later to do it. Regards Graham Higgins, #261 in Oz ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:23 PM PST US From: "ALAN YERLY" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Windscreen Demister Graham, My website has a view of the method I use for my customers heaters. Like most systems off the coolers, it varies the temp with the engine, outside air and velocity. Normally very good at 120 kias at 30 degrees F or above. As for demisting, most avionics put off enough heat that a small fan blowing air from the passenger well and exiting through a hole above the instruments (on top of the panel, in front of the pilot) works well for our modest temps here in the SE US. Jerry Hope said it best, "might as well cool the instruments and keep the windscreen clear!" He used a small computer cooling fan of 12 volts sucking air from the curved portion on the passenger side behind his radios and it blows across his stack, and it exits out the top quite well. Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations Website: customflightcreations.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Higgins To: Matronics List Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: Europa-List: Windscreen Demister > Hi Europaphiles, Has anyone felt the need for a demisting system in their Europa? If so, under what conditions? Has anyone who has devised a cabin heating system included demisting as part of this? Have you ever used it in anger? I am considering my cabin heating system from the hot air at the back of the radiator, and wondering if I should include any demisting while on the job - don't want to have to come back later to do it. Regards Graham Higgins, #261 in Oz http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:34 PM PST US From: "Troy Maynor" Subject: Europa-List: Exhaust Lagging Hey All, Is it ok to lag, or wrap some kind of heat shield around part or all of the exhaust pipes? Mine is a classic FWF with stainless steel pipes. I wanted to keep a few areas cooler, like near the carbs, and a few other places. I have read that regular steel pipes can rust away undetected under insulation. What do I need to ask for specifically, maybe out of ACS or Summit racing. 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