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1. 02:35 AM - Re: Altitude encoder adjustment (Peter Rees)
2. 11:48 AM - Coolant / Radiator cap (JEFF ROBERTS)
3. 12:34 PM - Re: Coolant / Radiator cap (Garry)
4. 01:14 PM - Re: Coolant / Radiator cap (Frans Veldman)
5. 01:28 PM - Re: Coolant / Radiator cap (david miller)
6. 01:35 PM - Re: Coolant / Radiator cap (Fred Klein)
7. 01:52 PM - Re: Coolant / Radiator cap (Robert Borger)
8. 02:06 PM - Re: Coolant / Radiator cap (Frans Veldman)
9. 11:02 PM - Official Europa-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
10. 11:10 PM - Official Europa-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
11. 11:54 PM - Reply Soon... (Karel Vranken)
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Subject: | Re: Altitude encoder adjustment |
Thanks - I'll take a look - trouble is, its a cow to get to as its on top of
the GPS in the radio stack - panel out and back is a good 2-3hrs :-(
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Altitude encoder adjustment
>
> Have you opened the AK-350 box?
> I had similar problem and there was a simple leak because of a stupid
> connection of an air tube inside the box.
> I fixed it and thats it.
>
> Raimo OH-XRT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:46 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Altitude encoder adjustment
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>> <peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk>
>>
>> Anyone in the UK had their altitude encoder repaired / adjusted? If so,
>> was
>> it relativly cheap or are the units not economically repairable? We have
>> an
>> Ameriking AK-350 that is being reported as over reading by about 500ft.
>>
>> One alternative would be to ditch it and fit the serial to grey code
>> converted to the Dynon as I saw something on the interweb suggesting that
>> Ameriking were no longer in business.
>>
>> Peter
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Subject: | Coolant / Radiator cap |
We'll it's time for me to put my plane back together after a long
annual and a few mods. I have been considering going back to using
50/50 instead of the Evans. Reading the archives most seem to think it
runs 10 or so degrees cooler, plus it's less flammable and I can buy it
anywhere. My question is for Ira or anyone else. Ira here is what you
said on a previous archive.
The day after SnF, I put in the new 1.2 cap ($29. at CPS, $74 at
Lockwood at SnF, since reduced). During the next taxi run to
the active, all the coolant blew out my overflow tank. Fortunately it
has
not happened since
1st do I need to change my radiator cap and if so what does CPS stand
for? In other words where did you buy it for $29.00? I'm for cheeper
if possible.
Thanks in advance!
Jeff Roberts.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours down for mods & annual.
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Subject: | Re: Coolant / Radiator cap |
I think "CPS" is the acronym for California Power Systems.........a
light sport mail order house.
Garry Stout
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From: JEFF ROBERTS
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Coolant / Radiator cap
We'll it's time for me to put my plane back together after a long
annual and a few mods. I have been considering going back to using 50/50
instead of the Evans. Reading the archives most seem to think it runs 10
or so degrees cooler, plus it's less flammable and I can buy it
anywhere. My question is for Ira or anyone else. Ira here is what you
said on a previous archive.
The day after SnF, I put in the new 1.2 cap ($29. at CPS, $74 at
Lockwood at SnF, since reduced). During the next taxi run to
the active, all the coolant blew out my overflow tank. Fortunately it
has
not happened since
1st do I need to change my radiator cap and if so what does CPS stand
for? In other words where did you buy it for $29.00? I'm for cheeper if
possible.
Thanks in advance!
Jeff Roberts.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours down for mods & annual.
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Subject: | Re: Coolant / Radiator cap |
JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
> We'll it's time for me to put my plane back together after a long annual
> and a few mods. I have been considering going back to using 50/50
> instead of the Evans.
This is funny. I was just about to start a topic about this.
Probably this spring I'm going to start up the engine for the first
time. I'm about to pour in some coolant in preparation of this rewarding
event. But after reading the archives, I still can't decide what coolant
to use.
My Rotax 914 is factory equipped with a 1.2 bar cap. Can this cap be
used for 50/50 and Evans?
What do people advise? My situation is as follows:
I have an intercooled 914, will be using the high twist Woodcomp
(3000W/3) and have extensively modified the cooling properties of the
cowling:
1) I cut away the entire "duct", and have some sort of a scoop under the
cowling with a diffuser and adjustable flap on the exit. The idea here
is to reduce drag, reduce frontal area, and to improve cooling at the
same time because the air-entrance is now lower on the belly, perfectly
in the prop-wash.
2) I used the circular openings in the front for taxi- and landing
lights. For the cylinder cooling I made two nasa-ducts in the top
cowling, with the air aimed between the front and rear cylinders. The
air openings have a slightly smaller surface than the original openings,
but they are situated in a better position, and the air is aimed
directly to the parts that need cooling.
For these reasons I estimate that my Europa has better cooling
properties than the factory Europa. Most flights will be carried out in
economy cruise on higher altitudes. Although the climate in the
Netherlands isn't very warm, I plant to travel a lot and will visit
warmer countries during the summer season.
As far as I understand from the archieves Evans has less risk of boiling
over, but has less cooling capacity. Since my cooling is hopefully
better than standard, I think that boiling over won't be an issue. So,
there is no advantage of using Evans here, is that right? At the same
time there is no need for the improved cooling capacity of 50/50 either.
If it doesn't really matter, I favor 50/50 because it is readily
available, can replace/add it anywhere during travels if need arises,
and it is more economical.
Concerning the cooling of the Rotax: The local glider club uses a Dimona
with a 914 for towing. That thing has never had any cooling issues,
while it sometimes has to wait very long (student glider pilot is being
teached, or a lot of traffic on the adjacent runway), operates on hot
days, and is performing long full power climbs exclusively. The whole
cooling problem with the Europa appears to be cowling-related. That's
why I modified the cowling, hoping to get the same cooling performance
as the club Dimona. ;-)
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Frans Veldman
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Subject: | Re: Coolant / Radiator cap |
Jeff,
I had an incident where some of the coolant dumped into the overflow
tank and the tank itself overflowed.
Not sure if it was the same as the problem indicated indicated below.
I thought I had a faulty cap, but the problem was the gasket which
had moved and was not providing a seal.
Now I check that it is centered each time I replace the cap.
Dave A061
>
>
> We'll it's time for me to put my plane back together after a long
> annual and a few mods. I have been considering going back to using
> 50/50 instead of the Evans. Reading the archives most seem to think
> it runs 10 or so degrees cooler, plus it's less flammable and I can
> buy it anywhere. My question is for Ira or anyone else. Ira here is
> what you said on a previous archive.
>
> The day after SnF, I put in the new 1.2 cap ($29. at CPS, $74 at
> Lockwood at SnF, since reduced). During the next taxi run to
> the active, all the coolant blew out my overflow tank. Fortunately
> it has
> not happened since
>
>
> 1st do I need to change my radiator cap and if so what does CPS
> stand for? In other words where did you buy it for $29.00? I'm for
> cheeper if possible.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Jeff Roberts.
> A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours down for mods & annual.
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Subject: | Re: Coolant / Radiator cap |
On Mar 1, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Frans Veldman wrote:
> 1) I cut away the entire "duct", and have some sort of a scoop under
> the
> cowling with a diffuser and adjustable flap on the exit. The idea here
> is to reduce drag, reduce frontal area, and to improve cooling at the
> same time because the air-entrance is now lower on the belly,
> perfectly
> in the prop-wash.
> 2) I used the circular openings in the front for taxi- and landing
> lights. For the cylinder cooling I made two nasa-ducts in the top
> cowling, with the air aimed between the front and rear cylinders. The
> air openings have a slightly smaller surface than the original
> openings,
> but they are situated in a better position, and the air is aimed
> directly to the parts that need cooling.
Frans...this sounds really interesting...cheers for getting rid of the
dog house...how bout some photos?
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: Coolant / Radiator cap |
Jeff & Dave,
Ditto on the gasket. Had a similar issue with leaking coolant. Drove
us nuts trying to find the source. Turned out to be the edge of the
gasket was folded allowing coolant to escape, bubble around the cap,
then up over the lip and dribble down the side of the cap unit where
it dripped off the bottom and onto the engine case. From there it
sneaked around the case, under various plumbing to the underside where
it dripped off onto the cowl, ran down and ended up in a puddle on the
floor.
Tommy finally found where the coolant was coming from and we gave the
cap a good looking over where we saw the folded gasket.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 1, 2009, at 15:35, david miller wrote:
> >
>
> Jeff,
>
> I had an incident where some of the coolant dumped into the overflow
> tank and the tank itself overflowed.
> Not sure if it was the same as the problem indicated indicated below.
> I thought I had a faulty cap, but the problem was the gasket which
> had moved and was not providing a seal.
> Now I check that it is centered each time I replace the cap.
>
> Dave A061
>>
>>
>> We'll it's time for me to put my plane back together after a long
>> annual and a few mods. I have been considering going back to using
>> 50/50 instead of the Evans. Reading the archives most seem to think
>> it runs 10 or so degrees cooler, plus it's less flammable and I can
>> buy it anywhere. My question is for Ira or anyone else. Ira here is
>> what you said on a previous archive.
>>
>> The day after SnF, I put in the new 1.2 cap ($29. at CPS, $74 at
>> Lockwood at SnF, since reduced). During the next taxi run to
>> the active, all the coolant blew out my overflow tank. Fortunately
>> it has
>> not happened since
>>
>>
>> 1st do I need to change my radiator cap and if so what does CPS
>> stand for? In other words where did you buy it for $29.00? I'm for
>> cheeper if possible.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>> Jeff Roberts.
>> A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours down for mods & annual.
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Subject: | Re: Coolant / Radiator cap |
> Frans...this sounds really interesting...cheers for getting rid of the
> dog house...how bout some photos?
What I have done is quite similar to what some others have been doing.
It is not really suitable for retrofitting as some substantial cowling
work needs to be done. The dog house starts its shape quite some
distance away on the cowling. I also got rid of the useless bulge for
the exhaust (at least useless for a 914, don't know about the 912).
What I have now is not yet finished, just the raw shapes without filler.
It wouldn't look very nice yet on pictures. But I will make some, to
show what I'm doing. If time permits tomorrow.
--
Frans Veldman
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Dear Listers,
Please read over the Europa-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Europa-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
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- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
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Hello=2C
Sorry I did not Inform You about my traveling to West Africa=2C Nigeria for
a program. Am having some difficulties . I misplaced my wallet on my way t
o the hotel where my money and other valuables were kept i will like you to
assist me with a loan of $2=2C300 to sort out my hotel bills and get mysel
f back home. I will appreciate whatever you can afford and I'll pay you bac
k as soon as i return=2C Meanwhile i will want you to wire the money to me
right here via western union money transfer to me via the hotel manager's i
nformation due to the loss of my passport. The details to send the money be
low .
Here are the details :
Name: CURTIS WOOD FOWLER
Address :Eko Hotel And Suites. Rm 129a.
City: Lagos
Zipcode:23401
State:Lagos
Country:Nigeria
As soon as you make the transfer kindly get back to me with the details of
the transfer such as :
Full sender's Name:
MTCN #:
Sender's Country:
Amount Sent:
Text Question and Answer:
Kindly let me know if you can be of help.
Hope to read from you soon.
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