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1. 01:55 AM - Re: fabric flammability (craig bastin)
2. 02:52 AM - Re: EuropaOwners is Moving (Kingsley Hurst)
3. 03:40 AM - Re: EuropaOwners is Moving (Peter Zutrauen)
4. 04:05 AM - Re: EuropaOwners is Moving (josok)
5. 06:58 AM - Re: fabric flammability (rampil)
6. 07:53 AM - AW: Re: fabric flammability (UVTReith)
7. 09:21 AM - Re: EuropaOwners is Moving (danbish)
8. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: fabric flammability (Fred Klein)
9. 11:25 AM - AW: fabric flammability (Alfred - Aviatik)
10. 08:11 PM - Re: Coolant / Radiator cap (JR Gowing)
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Subject: | fabric flammability |
Fred might i suggest you talk to a marine (boat) fitter. The fitters I visit
on a weekly basis inform me that
larger vessels MUST use fire retardant fabrics and carpets now (in
australia) for health and safety reasons.
I have examined a few samples they had on hand and the carpet seems quite
light, but not very flexible. The
fabrics come in quite a good range of colours too. I have been toying with
the idea of lambs wool skins for my seat, which are fire proof, and warm for
those FL flights at sub zero temps. The only issue I can see is
the lint, and how often they would need to be laundered to keep them looking
good.
craig
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Klein
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 2:57 PM
Subject: Europa-List: fabric flammability
Does anyone know whether or not fabrics for seats need meet FAR
23.853(A) in our Europas?
If not, is there a lessor standard used in the fabric industry which
might be of some guidance when selecting fabric for seat cushions?
Fred
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Subject: | Re: EuropaOwners is Moving |
> EuropaOwners is moving in both the real and virtual worlds. Over the next
> month the location of the servers that EuropaOwners lives on are moving to
> a new location. Then once the servers are physically moved the servers
> themselves will be upgraded. So, in a perfect world you would never know
> the difference. In the real world you may see blips in service during the
> next month or so. Please let me know of any loss of service, but don't
> worry we will be back...
Steve,
What you and Jos have done for the Europa fraternity is very much
appreciated on this side of the globe. I wish my ISP was as reliable as
your set-up.
Thanks again for your efforts.
Kingsley in Oz.
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Subject: | Re: EuropaOwners is Moving |
"What you and Jos have done for the Europa fraternity is very much
appreciated on this side of the globe. I wish my ISP was as reliable as
your set-up.
Thanks again for your efforts."
Hear! Hear! I second that!
Cheers & many thx!
Pete
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Kingsley Hurst <hurstkr@redzone.com.au>wrote:
> hurstkr@redzone.com.au>
>
> EuropaOwners is moving in both the real and virtual worlds. Over the next
>> month the location of the servers that EuropaOwners lives on are moving to a
>> new location. Then once the servers are physically moved the servers
>> themselves will be upgraded. So, in a perfect world you would never know the
>> difference. In the real world you may see blips in service during the next
>> month or so. Please let me know of any loss of service, but don't worry we
>> will be back...
>>
>
> Steve,
>
> What you and Jos have done for the Europa fraternity is very much
> appreciated on this side of the globe. I wish my ISP was as reliable as
> your set-up.
>
> Thanks again for your efforts.
>
> Kingsley in Oz.
>
> do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: EuropaOwners is Moving |
:roll:
Thanks!
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: fabric flammability |
Hi Fred,
In the US, for homebuilts, there are no requirements on cabin
materials. There is only common sense!
Ira
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Subject: | Re: fabric flammability |
Hi Fred,
Same in Germany
Cheers, Bruno
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von rampil
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Mrz 2009 14:56
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Betreff: Europa-List: Re: fabric flammability
Hi Fred,
In the US, for homebuilts, there are no requirements on cabin
materials. There is only common sense!
Ira
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234328#234328
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Subject: | Re: EuropaOwners is Moving |
I'd like to second (or third... whichever) the remarks. The photo gallery especially
has been extremely helpful!
Steve/Jos, can you recommend software for me to backup my portion of the gallery
or is there a way to FTP just that portion to a backup on my computer? I tried
a couple of programs but they tried to backup all the albums in the gallery.
Thanks again for everything you guys do for us.
Dan
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: fabric flammability |
On Mar 12, 2009, at 6:56 AM, rampil wrote:
> In the US, for homebuilts, there are no requirements on cabin
> materials.
Thanks Ira.
> There is only common sense!
I quite agree, hence my question about whether lessor standards
exist. It occurred to me that the standard for commercial aircraft
might be so onerous that other standards might exist for non-
commercial installations.
Of course, a case can be made that for the confined cabin volume and
proximity to potential fire sources, the situation in a small aircraft
requires even more stringent standards. As you suggest,
...common sense should prevail.
Fred
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Subject: | fabric flammability |
Hi Fred,
Here in Switzerland these regulations must be met for fabrics, carpets and
leather. For me Lantal was an excellent source: This is a well known firm
supplying many large commercial carriers with seats, carpets and fabrics.
They sold surplus stuff nearly for free.
We also have to treat the inside of fiberglass cowlings in a way that a fire
is at least retarded.
Regards,
Alfred
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Alfred Buess, Europa XS HB-YKI
CH-3052 Zollikofen, Switzerland
-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Fred Klein
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Mrz 2009 05:57
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Betreff: Europa-List: fabric flammability
Does anyone know whether or not fabrics for seats need meet FAR
23.853(A) in our Europas?
If not, is there a lessor standard used in the fabric industry which
might be of some guidance when selecting fabric for seat cushions?
Fred
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Subject: | Re: Coolant / Radiator cap |
Fred
Please tell me how these proposals relate to the XS Firewall kit for 912S
engine which has the extra frontal hole below the prop which feeds air to an
Air Guide Hood (which cost me another $700 or so from Rotax).
Are the proposals to avoid my set up or did they arise before the Air Guide
Hood was available?
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Coolant / Radiator cap
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 1:12 PM, Frans Veldman wrote:
>
>> 1) I cut away the entire "duct", and have some sort of a scoop under
>> the
>> cowling with a diffuser and adjustable flap on the exit. The idea here
>> is to reduce drag, reduce frontal area, and to improve cooling at the
>> same time because the air-entrance is now lower on the belly,
>> perfectly
>> in the prop-wash.
>> 2) I used the circular openings in the front for taxi- and landing
>> lights. For the cylinder cooling I made two nasa-ducts in the top
>> cowling, with the air aimed between the front and rear cylinders. The
>> air openings have a slightly smaller surface than the original
>> openings,
>> but they are situated in a better position, and the air is aimed
>> directly to the parts that need cooling.
>
> Frans...this sounds really interesting...cheers for getting rid of the
> dog house...how bout some photos?
>
> Fred
> A194
>
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