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     1. 02:08 AM - Re: Flap position, Flight testing (craig bastin)
     2. 02:42 AM - Re: Total energy probe install (Frans Veldman)
     3. 03:58 AM - Re: Flap position, Flight testing (Jim Brown)
     4. 06:47 AM - Re: Door Support Mechanism (Kesterton, Donald)
     5. 09:03 AM - Jabiru USA Engine Seminar..DO IT! (Jeffrey J Paris)
     6. 09:34 AM - Re: Total energy probe install (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
     7. 09:43 AM - Re: Jabiru USA Engine Seminar..DO IT! (Frans Veldman)
     8. 09:47 AM - Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring mod (glenn crowder)
     9. 11:06 AM - Re: Total energy probe install (Terry Seaver (terrys))
    10. 11:54 AM - Re: Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring mod (Fred Klein)
    11. 06:11 PM - Re: Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring mod (glenn crowder)
    12. 06:56 PM - Mod 42,Cold Air Plenum (Troy Maynor)
    13. 07:04 PM - Re: Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring mod (Fred Klein)
    14. 07:18 PM - Stick grip switch wiring routing (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
    15. 08:35 PM - Re: Monowheel outrigger (Kevin Klinefelter)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Flap position, Flight testing | 
      
      This may be a silly question, but your panel is level???? maybe you are
      chasing
      a phantom problem.
        -----Original Message-----
        From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Brown
        Sent: Monday, 16 March 2009 8:19 AM
        To: europa-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
      
      
              Kevin
      
              I had the same problem that you have, the ball was out about a
      quarter to the left. I solved my problem by installing a wedge of balsa wood
      on the RIGHT side of the rudder.
      
              The balsa wood came from a hobby shop, and is used for trailing
      edges on model wings. It is shaped like a wedge. The front is maby 1/32 and
      the rear is 1/4 thick.. cut it to about 2 inches long. Temporary install on
      the Right side of the rudder with the 1/4 inch thick part at the trailing
      edge of the rudder. Also locate it about half way down from the top of the
      rudder.
              I used masking tape to hold it on. Then go fly, get plane in normal
      cruise, take feet off pedals. where is ball. If the ball did no quite get
      centered. Use a longer wedge. If ball went to far, cut the wedge shorter.
      and go fly again. After a couple tries you should have the ball centered in
      normal cruise.
      
              You can attach any way you want. Glue it on, use vinyl tape, RTV....
              This makes a neater installation than gluing a piece of aluminum on
      the rudder and then bending a tab to accomplish the same result.
      
              When you start flying cross countrys at 17.500 ft you will see some
      very impressive ground speeds. It blows the controller's mind when you tell
      him you are flying behind a Rotax. They think two strokes.
      
              Jim Brown
      
      
              --- On Sun, 3/15/09, Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky..com> wrote:
      
      
                From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
                Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
                To: europa-list@matronics.com
                Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 12:46 AM
      
      
                Hi Jim,
                I have  to hold just a little left rudder in cruise to center the
      ball on my Dynon. Seems like I am skidding just a bit.
                When I use the stick to level the plane I can do it with one
      finger, just a pound or so to keep the left wing up cruising solo. In this
      position of wings level the ball is off to the left just enough to put the
      ball 1/4 on the line.
                When gear and flaps are down, the left turn is more pronounced.
      And when stalled dirty the left wing always drops.
      
      
                Thanks to all for the responses. I have not tried changing
      anything yet. I have just been enjoying this great little plane and trying
      very hard to get better at landing her. I have been doing a lot of landings!
      And also some high cruising, 17,000 feet over the snow covered Sierra, just
      amazing to be there instead of in the garage...
      
                Kevin, 35+ hours on the hobbs
                A211, N211KA
                Mono XS
                Intercooled 914, Airmaster Prop
                  From: Jim Brown
                  To: europa-list@matronics.com
                  Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:02 PM
                  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
      
      
                        Kevin
      
                        Your statment "in cruise I have to hold a little left
      rudder".. Is this to keep the plane from a slight turning to the right? Is
      the right wing low without rudder ?
      
                        The next time you fly, do this for me. Once in normal
      cruse, take your feet off the rudder pedals. Use your stick to level the
      plane, then observe where the sticks position is. Is it to the left of
      center or is it to the righ of center, or does it remain centered ? In this
      position of wings level, where is the ball? Is it to the right, or to the
      left, or is it centered?
      
                        The monowheel does have a tendenancy to turn left a
      little, when flown solo.
      
                        Jim Brown
      
                        --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
      wrote:
      
      
                          From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
                          Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
                          To: europa-list@matronics.com
                          Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 1:04 PM
      
      
                          Jim, In cruise I have to hold a little left rudder...
                          Kevin
                            ----- Original Message -----
                            From: Jim Brown
                            To: europa-list@matronics.com
                            Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:21 AM
                            Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight
      testing
      
      
                                  Kevin
      
                                  I would think that given the left flap is lower
      than the right flap that the plane would be turning right. Given that the
      left flap will have more pressure on it than the right flap.
      
                                  I would suggest that on the next flight check
      the turn and bank ball. and see if its setting to the right. Try centering
      the ball with rudder and see if that helps.
      
                                  Jim Brown
      
                                  --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Kevin Klinefelter
      <kevann@gotsky.com> wrote:
      
      
                                    From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
                                    Subject: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight
      testing
                                    To: europa-list@matronics.com
                                    Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 11:38 PM
      
      
                                    Hi All,
      
                                    Flight testing of 914 powered monowheel N211KA
      is going well (29 hours).I have a flap position question for those who have
      been there.
                                    The aircraft has an irritating left turn in it
      when flown solo and slight left turn with two up. When trimmed out cruising
      straight and level the ailerons are close to even with the wing tips and the
      left flap is noticeably lower relative to it's aileron than the right side,
      which is almost even with the aileron. I think if I can rig the left flap up
      even with the aileron it will help cure the left turning problem and be less
      drag.
      
                                    I thought I might get a new flap hinge arm
      (FL16) on the left and with the aircraft supported and flaps up in the
      desired position I could drill new holes thru the lugs on the tourqe tube
      so the left flap retacted position matches the right.
      
                                    Will this work or is there a better way?
      
                                    Thanks, Kevin... flying and grinning...
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Total energy probe install | 
      
      
      rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
      > I have a Ilec Vario and total energy probe.
      > Idea was to mount it on vertical fin.
      
      I have not yet flown with it, but mounted my TE probe in the fertical
      fin (in the "cap" actually), level with the port sill, with the tip
      pointing down. The tail strobe is just behind/above it, providing an
      access hole for the hose connection.
      To me this appeared to be the best location (and the hardest to get at
      afterwards if not planned already during the built).
      
      I can provide some pictures if you care.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flap position, Flight testing | 
      
      Thanks Kevin.
      -
      Sounds like you have a handle on the problem.. Yes it does look like a flet
      tner strip.
      -
      If you can't find material close by contact me off line with your address, 
      I'll send some to you.
      -
      Jim
      
      --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
      
      
      Jim,
      -
      I flew today with a friend (mutiple RV owner/builder) in the right seat. He
      's a far more experienced and talented pilot than I. The plane turned RIGHT
       ever so slightly hands off. The ball was off about the same to the left.
      -
      Stalls dirty with the two of us broke a little to the right at low power. H
      e did lots of stalls and thought the plane flew very nicely. So I'm not goi
      ng to do anything regarding roll correction.-I have a TruTrak autopilot i
      nstalled but not hooked up yet. I imagine it will work well for longer flig
      hts, without aileron trim, solo or dual.
      -
      -I like your rudder trim solution. If I understand correctly it looks lik
      e-a flettner strip on our trim tabs?
      -
      My RV friend landed the Europa-mono four times, each one getting better. Ma
      de me feel better to see that he did some light bounces and showed me that 
      a fine touch on the throttle does wonders. He was impressed with the 914/ai
      rmaster combo!
      -
      Thanks, Kevin
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jim Brown 
      Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:19 PM
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
      
      
      Kevin
      -
      I had the same problem that you have, the ball was out about a quarter to t
      he left. I solved my problem by installing a wedge of balsa wood on the RIG
      HT side of the rudder.
      -
      The balsa wood came from a hobby shop, and is used for trailing edges on mo
      del wings.-It is shaped like a wedge. The front is maby 1/32 and the rear
       is 1/4 thick.. cut it to about 2 inches long. Temporary install on the Rig
      ht side of the rudder with the 1/4 inch thick part at the trailing edge of 
      the rudder. Also locate it about half way down from the top of the rudder.
      I used masking tape to hold it on. Then go fly, get plane in normal cruise,
       take feet off pedals. where is ball. If the ball did no quite get centered
      .. Use a longer wedge. If ball went to far, cut the wedge shorter. and go fl
      y again. After a couple tries you should have the ball centered in normal c
      ruise.
      -
      You can attach any way you want. Glue it on, use vinyl tape, RTV....
      This makes a neater installation than gluing a piece of aluminum on the rud
      der and then bending a tab to accomplish the same result.
      -
      When you start flying cross countrys at 17.500 ft you will see some very im
      pressive ground speeds. It blows the controller's mind when you tell him yo
      u are flying behind a Rotax. They think two strokes. 
      -
      Jim Brown
      -
      
      
      --- On Sun, 3/15/09, Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky..com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
      
      
      Hi Jim,
      I have- to hold just a little left rudder in cruise to center the ball on
       my Dynon. Seems like I am skidding just a bit.
      When I use the stick to level the plane I can do it with one finger, just a
       pound or so to keep the left wing up cruising solo. In this position of wi
      ngs level the ball is off to the left just enough to put the ball 1/4 on th
      e line.
      When gear and flaps are down, the left turn is more pronounced. And when st
      alled dirty the left wing always drops.
      -
      -
      Thanks to all for the responses. I have not tried changing anything yet. I 
      have just been enjoying this great little plane and trying very hard to get
       better at landing her. I have been doing a lot of landings! And also some 
      high cruising, 17,000 feet over the snow covered Sierra, just amazing to be
       there instead of in the garage...
      -
      Kevin, 35+ hours on the hobbs
      A211, N211KA
      Mono XS
      Intercooled 914, Airmaster-Prop
      
      From: Jim Brown 
      Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:02 PM
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
      
      
      Kevin
      -
      Your statment "in cruise I have to hold a little left rudder".. Is this to 
      keep the plane from a slight turning to the right? Is the right wing low wi
      thout rudder ?
      -
      The next time you fly, do this for me. Once in normal cruse, take your feet
       off the rudder pedals. Use your stick to level the plane, then observe whe
      re the sticks position is. Is it to the left of center or is it to the righ
       of center, or does it remain centered ? In this position of wings level, w
      here is the ball? Is it to the right, or to the left, or is it centered?
      -
      The monowheel-does have-a tendenancy to turn left a little, when flown 
      solo.
      -
      Jim Brown
      
      --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
      
      
      Jim, In cruise I have to hold a little left rudder...
      Kevin
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Jim Brown 
      Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:21 AM
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
      
      
      Kevin
      -
      I would think that given the left flap is lower than the right flap that th
      e plane would be turning right. Given that the left flap will have more pre
      ssure on it than the right flap.
      -
      I would suggest that on the next flight check the turn and bank ball. and s
      ee if its setting to the right. Try centering the ball with rudder and see 
      if that helps.
      -
      Jim Brown
      
      --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
      Subject: Europa-List: Flap position, Flight testing
      
      
      Hi All,--- --- 
      -
      Flight testing of 914 powered monowheel N211KA is going well (29 hours).I h
      ave a flap position question for those who have been there.
      The aircraft has an irritating-left turn in it when flown solo and slight
       left turn with two up. When trimmed out cruising straight and level the ai
      lerons are close to even with the wing tips and the left flap is noticeably
       lower relative to it's aileron than the right side, which is almost even w
      ith the aileron. I think if I can rig the left flap up even with the ailero
      n it will help cure the left turning problem and be less drag. 
      -
      I thought I might get a new flap hinge arm (FL16) on the left-and with th
      e aircraft supported and flaps up in the desired position I could drill new
       holes thru the lugs on the tourqe tube- so the left flap retacted positi
      on matches the right.
      -
      Will this work or is there a better way?
      -
      Thanks, Kevin... flying and grinning...
      -
      -
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Door Support Mechanism | 
      
      
      This is my first posting for quite some time!!
      
      
      I understand that some time ago Ted Gladstone designed a superior door
      hold mechanism which largely eliminated the distorting force of the
      telescopic door opener when the door is in the closed position.
      
      
      Can anyone suggest where I could obtain drawing/construction details
      please.
      
      
      Is the modification one on the UK "approved" mods list?
      
      
      I have tried the factory solution,  which has the merit of being
      relatively simple, and although the distorting force is much reduced,  I
      am still getting some door distortion which I would like to eliminate.
      
      
      Many thanks
      
      
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| Subject:  | Jabiru USA Engine Seminar..DO IT! | 
      
      Dear Listers,FYI-Me and my Dad just spent a great weekend at Jabiru USA and 
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      y continued confidence in the Jabiru product was only bolstered and reinforc
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      all the parts and there functions and actually rebuilding an engine on site 
      your knowledge and confidence level on this engine expands exponentially.
      =C2- In addition, we met some really interesting fellow aircraft builders 
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| Subject:  | Re: Total energy probe install | 
      
      
      Hi Frans
      
      "mounted my TE probe in the ferticalfin (in
      the "cap" actually), level with the port sill, with the
      tippointing down. "
      
      "I can provide some
      pictures if you care."
      
      Any pictureswould be greatly
      appreciated.
      
      Thx.
      Ron Parigoris
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jabiru USA Engine Seminar..DO IT! | 
      
      
      Jeffrey J Paris wrote:
      
      > And if your considering a Jabiru for your airplane
      > project I highly recommend this powerplant.  Why?  because we just
      > purchased and picked up our second engine this past weekend
      
      If I read this correctly: You recommend this powerplant because you
      bought one yourself. That alone should be enough reason for us to buy
      one ourselves too?
      
      How about giving some more substantial reasons, like propellor RPM
      compared to the Rotax, fuel consumption compared to the Rotax, etc?
      There is a lot of halleluja in your post, but it lacks any data and
      factual reasons about what's so great about this engine.
      
      > In a nutshell, it's hard not to make some friends!
      
      That's not unusual if you buy something. ;-) But hardly a reason to buy
      such an engine.
      
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| Subject:  | Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring mod | 
      
      
        Just added a second spring to my downlock mechanism.  Pretty easy mod and
       now provides a resounding audible clunk
      
      confirmation when lowering the gear.  The audible confirmation with just th
      e stock springs was getting somewhat passive and difficult to confirm.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Total energy probe install | 
      
      Hi Ron,
      
      We installed a Borgelt vario with a TE probe about a year ago, near the
      top of the fin.  When building the plane (7-8 years ago) we left some
      PVC pipe installed in the fin to act as conduit for the probe tubing run
      to the cockpit, which allowed us to mount the probe later on by simply
      drilling a hole in the fin leading edge.  We mounted the probe to a
      piece of sheet aluminum and screwed that to two anchor nuts inside the
      fin.  The aluminum mount was bent to the shape of the fin leading edge.
      We have the probe base pointing straight forward (approximately level
      with the port sill) with the bent part of the probe pointing downward.
      The probe seems to work fine at this location.
      I hope this helps, I don't have pictures at this time.
      
      regards,
      Terry Seaver
      A135 / N135TD
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
      Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:31 PM
      Subject: Europa-List: Total energy probe install
      
      
      Hi Group
      
      I have a Ilec Vario and total energy probe.
      
      I want to mount my total energy probe before I bond on top fuse.
      
      Idea was to mount it on vertical fin.
      
      Anyone have any real world experience with a total energy probe mounted
      on vertical fin?
      
      Did you install level with port sill? 
      
      Or mount at an angle to give it more height? What angle? Bout how high
      is the tip compared with rudder cap?
      
      Did you mount with bent part of probe tip pointing up, or down?
      
      Perhaps you mounted in another location than vertical fin?
      
      Any pics would be greatly appreciated.
      
      Ron Parigoris
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring mod | 
      
      Glenn...very nice...now why didn't I think of that?...yu b a clever  
      fella...
      
      Fred
      
      do not achive
      
      On Mar 16, 2009, at 9:46 AM, glenn crowder wrote:
      
      >   Just added a second spring to my downlock mechanism.  Pretty easy  
      > mod and now provides a resounding audible clunk confirmation when  
      > lowering the gear.
      
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| Subject:  | Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring mod | 
      
      
      Hey Fred=2C thanks.  No negatives yet and provides a warm and fuzzy feeling
       on short final that all is well.  I also replaced the
      
      original nylon legs with MDS filled nylon legs purchased from McMaster.  I 
      am experimenting with 1/4" longer legs to reduce the
      
      rocking even more.  Now there is no wing rocking at all until the TW is lif
      ted and then its only there for a couple seconds before
      
      rotation.  Much improved on landing as well as soon as the main is down=2C 
      the OR wheels are down as well preventing any side
      
      loading or weight transfer from getting started.  This does add a slight pr
      eload to the legs but they become HIGHLY loaded if
      
      any side to side weight transfer starts up with the standard length legs.  
      I really like it so far and can taxi up to 45 mph with
      
      no rocking whatsoever but YMMV.
      
      
                                                                          Glenn
      
      
      From: fklein@orcasonline.com
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring mod
      
      Glenn...very nice...now why didn't I think of that?...yu b a clever fella..
      .
      
      
      Fred
      
      
      do not achive
      
      
      On Mar 16=2C 2009=2C at 9:46 AM=2C glenn crowder wrote:
      
        Just added a second spring to my downlock mechanism.  Pretty easy mod and
       now provides a resounding audible clunk confirmation when lowering the gea
      r. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Mod 42,Cold Air Plenum | 
      
      Hey Y'all,
      
      Just a minor thing but I want to know. I want to talk about the little 
      plastic 'T' fittings that connect the carburettor vent tubes to the 
      plenum. Mine are missing. I don't know if I even got them in the first 
      place. I would prefer not to put anything inside the plenum that could 
      come loose and get sucked into the engine. I saw a picture that someone 
      posted of this happening but stopping at the butterfly in the carb., but 
      it wasn't a 'T' fitting. I want to know what others have done as an 
      alternative. I was thinking about reduxing in a threaded/nipple adapter 
      from the outside. Any thoughts or ideas I could use?  
      
      Troy
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring mod | 
      
      
      On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:09 PM, glenn crowder wrote:
      
      > No negatives yet and provides a warm and fuzzy feeling on short  
      > final that all is well.
      
      Hey Glenn...sounds good...I've always been troubled by the eccentric  
      loading on the bolt which holds the spring (on the original).
      
      > I also replaced the original nylon legs with MDS filled nylon legs  
      > purchased from McMaster.  I am experimenting with 1/4" longer legs  
      > to reduce the
      > rocking even more.  Now there is no wing rocking at all until the TW  
      > is lifted and then its only there for a couple seconds before  
      > rotation.  Much improved on landing as well as soon as the main is  
      > down, the OR wheels are down as well preventing any side loading or  
      > weight transfer from getting started.
      
      
      Now are those "MDS filled" nylon legs a different composition from the  
      originals?
      
      BTW, how many ponies in that Soob of yours at this point? Weren't you  
      bumping up the hp?
      
      Fred
      
      
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| Subject:  | Stick grip switch wiring routing | 
      
      
      What are your favorite options for routing wires to stick grip switches
      on a monowheel XS?
      
      If it is a drop downfrom fuse seam, do
      you run wires in any sort of protector or??
      
      Thx.
      Ron
      Parigoris
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Monowheel outrigger | 
      
      Hi Guys,
      So far my outigger legs come down and lock as they should, however...
      I"ve now broken 4 outrigger legs. Do I have the record?
      1 broke 1 for no good reason while taxiing, taking out a very expensive 
      Airmaster Prop. 2 busted during bounced landings on paved runways, and 1 
      broke in the hanger as I pushed down on the wing to test it.
      These are Nylon 6/6 supplied by the factory with the kit and replacement 
      stock from Mcmaster-Carr. 
      I looked at the data sheet on mcmaster web site and could see no 
      advantage to the MDS filled stock, unless you consider friction 
      reduction an advantage. Anyone have any other info?
      
      I plan to try making a set from fiberglass rod stock. Smaller diameter 
      due to the fact that it's stiffer, trying to come close to the same 
      flex.We'll see....
      
      And I also plan to land better! Steady improvement, now at 40 hours and 
      lots of landings...
      
      Kevin
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Fred Klein 
        To: europa-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:04 PM
        Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel outrigger double downlock spring 
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        On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:09 PM, glenn crowder wrote:
      
      
          No negatives yet and provides a warm and fuzzy feeling on short 
      final that all is well.  
      
      
        Hey Glenn...sounds good...I've always been troubled by the eccentric 
      loading on the bolt which holds the spring (on the original). 
      
      
          I also replaced the original nylon legs with MDS filled nylon legs 
      purchased from McMaster.  I am experimenting with 1/4" longer legs to 
      reduce the
          rocking even more.  Now there is no wing rocking at all until the TW 
      is lifted and then its only there for a couple seconds before rotation.  
      Much improved on landing as well as soon as the main is down, the OR 
      wheels are down as well preventing any side loading or weight transfer 
      from getting started. 
      
      
        Now are those "MDS filled" nylon legs a different composition from the 
      originals?
      
      
        BTW, how many ponies in that Soob of yours at this point? Weren't you 
      bumping up the hp?
      
      
        Fred
      
      
 
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