---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/17/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:49 AM - Drooping Outrigger (Robert Borger) 2. 08:04 AM - Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine (Fergus Kyle) 3. 09:22 AM - Inexpensive GPS with inflight weather! (glenn crowder) 4. 11:23 AM - Re: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine () 5. 11:49 AM - TCU / throttle software (Paul Stewart) 6. 01:05 PM - Re: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine (Simon Smith) 7. 01:51 PM - Re: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine (Robert C Harrison) 8. 02:24 PM - Re: TCU / throttle software (Robert C Harrison) 9. 03:33 PM - Re: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine (ALAN YERLY) 10. 08:35 PM - Re: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine (Kevin Klinefelter) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:12 AM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Europa-List: Drooping Outrigger Fellow Europaphiles, First I wish to thank whomever it was that asked about my drooping starboard outrigger. I intended to answer after I checked it out, but I've misplaced the e-mail. In any case, yesterday I had intended to take care of the last item on my squawk list, the engine run up to check the output voltage and confirm the ability to charge the battery. For some reason, I decided to do a thorough pre-flight style inspection of the aircraft prior to run up. When I came to the port side "Check Outrigger Down And Locked," rather than just check from aft where I can see the latch and confirm down-lock, I went around front to look as well. Not sure why, probably the previously mentioned e-mail. What I found was interesting and all has been documented on my build web site. The pics weren't great as they are iPhone pics, but the point is obvious. Had I left the speed kit fairings on, never would have seen this issue. Since it was common to both outriggers, probably was due to assembly error, failing to do a final tighten of a stiff-nut. Still I will have to watch the outriggers more closely and from the front as well as viewing the latch from the aft. Y'all be careful out there and make those pre-flight walk-around inspections count. I'll be going up to KDTO this morning to complete that engine run up test and if all seems well and the weather cooperates, I'll be seeing how well The Little Dragon Lady and I do in another session of the landing dance. Check six, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Aircraft Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:53 AM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine Cheers, I may have made a tactical error - in running the grounding strap from my 'forest-of-tabs' on the firewall to an M6x16 bolt holding the plastic ignition cover on the back of the engine. Admittedly, the bolt threads into the ignition housing but now I'm having nervous thoughts about the cover. Where did you ground your strap to the engine? Thanks, ferg Europa A064 Wiring wiring wiring ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:03 AM PST US From: glenn crowder Subject: Europa-List: Inexpensive GPS with inflight weather! This might be the way to go for those economically deprived aviators that h ave been lusting for a 586! Inflight XM weather subscription just $9.95/mo. Also has satellite photo image depiction of your terrrain below - cool! $5 77 US. http://www.bushnell.com/gps/gps_onix400.cfm _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail=AE . http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MS GTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:15 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Europa-List: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine hi Ferg I used the large threaded holes on top of the engine just behind the Vacuum pump, These are used to lift the engine at its point of balance, If you use a good quality welding cable with swaged joints it would be a fit and forget item,, regards ivor ---- Fergus Kyle wrote: > Cheers, > I may have made a tactical error - in running the grounding strap > from my 'forest-of-tabs' on the firewall to an M6x16 bolt holding the > plastic ignition cover on the back of the engine. Admittedly, the bolt > threads into the ignition housing but now I'm having nervous thoughts about > the cover. > Where did you ground your strap to the engine? > Thanks, ferg > Europa A064 > Wiring wiring wiring > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:43 AM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: TCU / throttle software Just about to set the throttle using Tlr46.exe software. Understand that this gets done with TCU powered up but engine not running. If I run the engine will the 'Montor' menu of the software give me a real time rpm readout? - 'cos still trying to sort out non functioning tacho. Regards Paul G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:11 PM PST US From: Simon Smith Subject: Re: Europa-List: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine Those points are used for the attachment of part of the prop control system with the Arplast prop and are hidden if the cooling shroud is fitted. I used a threaded lug next to the rocker cover on the rear righthand (looking from the cockpit) cylinder. Simon On 17 Mar 2009, at 18:17, ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com wrote: > > hi Ferg > I used the large threaded holes on top of the engine just behind the > Vacuum pump, > These are used to lift the engine at its point of balance, If you > use a good quality welding cable with swaged joints it would be a > fit and forget item,, > regards > ivor > ---- Fergus Kyle wrote: >> Cheers, >> I may have made a tactical error - in running the grounding strap >> from my 'forest-of-tabs' on the firewall to an M6x16 bolt holding >> the >> plastic ignition cover on the back of the engine. Admittedly, the >> bolt >> threads into the ignition housing but now I'm having nervous >> thoughts about >> the cover. >> Where did you ground your strap to the engine? >> Thanks, ferg >> Europa A064 >> Wiring wiring wiring >> > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:29 PM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine Hi! Ferg I used a substantial threaded boss on the lower port side of the crank case just below and aft of the oil filter. (914 installation.) Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle Sent: 17 March 2009 15:01 To: EUROPALIST Subject: Europa-List: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine Cheers, I may have made a tactical error - in running the grounding strap from my 'forest-of-tabs' on the firewall to an M6x16 bolt holding the plastic ignition cover on the back of the engine. Admittedly, the bolt threads into the ignition housing but now I'm having nervous thoughts about the cover. Where did you ground your strap to the engine? Thanks, ferg Europa A064 Wiring wiring wiring ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:06 PM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: TCU / throttle software Hi! Paul >From my memory the TCU set up procedure handles percentage power linked to throttle position. I don't think the TCU deals with RPM. This then leaves the pilot to ensure that RPM limitation is secured by propeller setting. Certainly my Rotax Tacho isn't linked to anything other than the engine. However my Smart Avionics Propeller Controller gives a power and RPM read out for the Woodcomp Wobbly Prop I am however just little perplexed why no one else has replied since I'm no authority on subject! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: 17 March 2009 18:45 Subject: Europa-List: TCU / throttle software Just about to set the throttle using Tlr46.exe software. Understand that this gets done with TCU powered up but engine not running. If I run the engine will the 'Montor' menu of the software give me a real time rpm readout? - 'cos still trying to sort out non functioning tacho. Regards Paul G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:33:51 PM PST US From: "ALAN YERLY" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine Ferg, I know you have already looked at the Tony Bingalis "Firewall Forward and or Knuckles AeroElectric Connection, but for others: Please use standard aircraft wiring procedures to secure a suitably sized wire from the engine block to the airframe to handle engine starter grounding amperage requirements, instrument grounding and accessories (I use a short #4 cable minimum). No matter what, make sure the wire ring connector is solidly in contact with the block/head of the engine. In the past I used the M6 bolt that the bracket coming off the engine block, which holds the ignition coil boxes, however on the new Rotax engines make that area harder to get to. My new two favorite places to make a ground contact are: The engine lift points behind the gearbox or in the hole on the #4 engine cylinder near the head bolt. They all worked fine. I run my main battery ground to a 5/16 stud through the firewall, and from this point to the block, and on the inside of the firewall I run a #10 wire to the panel/airframe for a low power panel or a #8 for a high power panel. Bud Yerly ----- Original Message ----- From: Fergus Kyle To: EUROPALIST Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:01 AM Subject: Europa-List: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine Cheers, I may have made a tactical error - in running the grounding strap from my 'forest-of-tabs' on the firewall to an M6x16 bolt holding the plastic ignition cover on the back of the engine. Admittedly, the bolt threads into the ignition housing but now I'm having nervous thoughts about the cover. Where did you ground your strap to the engine? Thanks, ferg Europa A064 Wiring wiring wiring ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:12 PM PST US From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine Ferg, I put mine at the brace that supports the ignition module. The engine case has a nice big flat machined area there Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus Kyle" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:01 AM Subject: Europa-List: Grounding strap,firewall-914 engine > Cheers, > I may have made a tactical error - in running the grounding strap > from my 'forest-of-tabs' on the firewall to an M6x16 bolt holding the > plastic ignition cover on the back of the engine. Admittedly, the bolt > threads into the ignition housing but now I'm having nervous thoughts > about > the cover. > Where did you ground your strap to the engine? > Thanks, ferg > Europa A064 > Wiring wiring wiring > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.