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1. 05:56 AM - Fw: Reply Soon... (Raimo Toivio)
2. 09:44 AM - Re: Woodcomp Propellers (David Joyce)
3. 10:49 AM - spam filters (Fred Klein)
4. 10:56 AM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Woodcomp_Propellers? (Carl Pattinson)
5. 02:50 PM - New Europa ad (CHUCK RHOADS)
6. 07:05 PM - Re: New Europa ad (JEFF ROBERTS)
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----- Original Message -----
From: <rwm-systems@yritys.tpo.fi>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Reply Soon...
> Robert,
>
> I got also same message from "Karel".
> I can believe hi would like to fly his Europa to Nigeria but misplace his wallet
there - no way.
>
> BTW wishes from Seoul Korea: We saw B52 in the War Memorial museum and it was
also like a HUGE monowheel like U2.
>
> Raimo OH-XRT
>
>
>
> Robert Borger [rlborger@mac.com] kirjoitti:
> > Fellow Europaphiles,
> >
> > I dug the attached e-mail from my Junk Mail Box today. The address
> > block was:
> >
> > From: karelvranken@hotmail.com
> > Subject: Europa-List: Reply Soon...
> > Date: March 2, 2009 1:52:29 CST
> >
> > I'd guess that this is a pretty neat variation on the old "Nigeria
> > Scam." Any one else receive this?
> >
> > Or did Karel really go off to Nigeria and misplace his wallet and ask
> > some of us to send him big $$$$ in care of Mr. Fowler?
> >
> > Check six,
> > Bob Borger
> > Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
> > http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
> > Aircraft Flying!
> > 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> > Corinth, TX 76208
> > Home: 940-497-2123
> > Cel: 817-992-1117
> >
> >
> > On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:52, Karel Vranken wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Sorry I did not Inform You about my traveling to West Africa,
> > > Nigeria for a program. Am having some difficulties . I misplaced my
> > > wallet on my way to the hotel where my money and other valuables
> > > were kept i will like you to assist me with a loan of $2,300 to sort
> > > out my hotel bills and get myself back home. I will appreciate
> > > whatever you can afford and I'll pay you back as soon as i return,
> > > Meanwhile i will want you to wire the money to me right here via
> > > western union money transfer to me via the hotel manager's
> > > information due to the loss of my passport. The details to send the
> > > money below .
> > > Here are the details :
> > >
> > > Name: CURTIS WOOD FOWLER
> > > Address :Eko Hotel And Suites. Rm 129a.
> > > City: Lagos
> > > Zipcode:23401
> > > State:Lagos
> > > Country:Nigeria
> > >
> > > As soon as you make the transfer kindly get back to me with the
> > > details of the transfer such as :
> > >
> > > Full sender's Name:
> > > MTCN #:
> > > Sender's Country:
> > > Amount Sent:
> > > Text Question and Answer:
> > >
> > > Kindly let me know if you can be of help.
> > >
> > > Hope to read from you soon.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: Woodcomp Propellers |
Jos I suspect you had your mind on other things! Carl Pattinson has been
requested by the LAA to modify the mechanical end stop of his prop to stop
it being able to go into reverse. He has the prop from William Mills
aircraft, which happens not to have been on William's plane when he crashed.
It is one of the earliest SR3000s. Carl has recently dismantled it and the
mechanical end stop is there, taking the form of a stud sliding in a
groove, with the length of the groove determining the mechanically possible
pitch range.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Woodcomp Propellers
>
> David and All,
>
> Probably i am the only one who has ever opened an SR 3000 hub. There are
> no mechanical endstops. Not on the end of any travel movements. Maybe
> added later, that i don't know.
>
> The micro switches are not suitable for outdoor use. That point is left
> out.
>
> The rating of the micro switches, if 16A? is probably for AC. DC ratings
> are usually 1/4 to 1/3 of that. Left out. Why two in series? Doubt about
> the quality? Left out.
>
> If the normal working current range of the motor is 4 A, the stall
> current, or startup current, is about 5 times higher. That stall current,
> startup current probably is over 20 A for a very short period.
> Specifications of diodes are for peak currents too. Peak current, even
> glitches break semiconductors. So any time the (fine) endstop micro
> switches are opened, the reverse current, momentarely up to 20 A will fry
> a 5 A diode easily. Left out.
>
> If the diode is short circuited, there is no electrical endstop working.
> If there would be a mechanical endstop, the motor could fry because it
> would be blocked. Left out.
>
> So David, please ask some more questions? I do very well understand, that
> you are not an outsider, as the person who got the first SR 3000 approved
> by the PFA. I am not either, so that could balance things out. Your
> interest seems to be to flatten issues with the Woodcomp SR3000, mine is
> to warn about the product, and maybe save lifes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jos Okhuijsen
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>
>
>
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a msg to Gary Roberts...
Hi Gary,
I sent you a msg directly re: Sun N Fun...perhaps it got stuck in your
spam filter...(?)
I was hoping to get a ride w/ you from TPA to Lakeland. Please email
me directly,
Thanks,
Fred
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| Subject: | =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Woodcomp_Propellers? |
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As David says there is definitely a groove and a limiting stop in Williams
prop - photos herewith..
I have just sent it back to Woodcomp for them to shorten the length of the
groove so the blades can't travel beyond the fine setting (ie: into reverse
pitch).
It isnt clear but the end stops are 6mm allen head bolts through the front
hub. These slot into the grooves limiting the blade travel.
It should be fairly obvious that if a prop is capable of going into reverse
pitch, a physical end stop wont prevent the blades going into a dangerous
condition if the servo motor continues to run past the fine setting.
Presumably that is the reason there is a backup microswitch which should cut
off the power if the primary switch fails.
However both the fine setting switches will be over ridden if the control
circuitry initiates reverse pitch !!! One assumes this would not normally
happen unless the reverse pitch switch was engaged (ie: by the pilot).
Carl Pattinson
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Woodcomp Propellers
>
> <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>
> Jos I suspect you had your mind on other things! Carl Pattinson has been
> requested by the LAA to modify the mechanical end stop of his prop to stop
> it being able to go into reverse. He has the prop from William Mills
> aircraft, which happens not to have been on William's plane when he
> crashed. It is one of the earliest SR3000s. Carl has recently dismantled
> it and the mechanical end stop is there, taking the form of a stud
> sliding in a groove, with the length of the groove determining the
> mechanically possible pitch range.
> Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Woodcomp Propellers
>
>
>>
>> David and All,
>>
>> Probably i am the only one who has ever opened an SR 3000 hub. There are
>> no mechanical endstops. Not on the end of any travel movements. Maybe
>> added later, that i don't know.
>>
>> The micro switches are not suitable for outdoor use. That point is left
>> out.
>>
>> The rating of the micro switches, if 16A? is probably for AC. DC ratings
>> are usually 1/4 to 1/3 of that. Left out. Why two in series? Doubt about
>> the quality? Left out.
>>
>> If the normal working current range of the motor is 4 A, the stall
>> current, or startup current, is about 5 times higher. That stall current,
>> startup current probably is over 20 A for a very short period.
>> Specifications of diodes are for peak currents too. Peak current, even
>> glitches break semiconductors. So any time the (fine) endstop micro
>> switches are opened, the reverse current, momentarely up to 20 A will fry
>> a 5 A diode easily. Left out.
>>
>> If the diode is short circuited, there is no electrical endstop working.
>> If there would be a mechanical endstop, the motor could fry because it
>> would be blocked. Left out.
>>
>> So David, please ask some more questions? I do very well understand, that
>> you are not an outsider, as the person who got the first SR 3000 approved
>> by the PFA. I am not either, so that could balance things out. Your
>> interest seems to be to flatten issues with the Woodcomp SR3000, mine is
>> to warn about the product, and maybe save lifes.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jos Okhuijsen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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=0A-=0AAs I was looking through my new May issue of Kitplanes it was grea
t to see a beautiful full-page color ad-for Europa.=0A=0AChuck Rhoads=0A
-A100 trike=0A115 hours=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: New Europa ad |
I'm with you there Chuck! Way to go Bud!
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours and climbing slowly.
On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:47 PM, CHUCK RHOADS wrote:
>
>
> As I was looking through my new May issue of Kitplanes it was great to
> see a beautiful full-page color adfor Europa.
>
> Chuck Rhoads
> A100 trike
> 115 hours
>
>
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