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     1. 06:06 AM - long ranger fuel tank (Kevin Klinefelter)
     2. 08:45 AM - croatian language study (danijela mandusic)
     3. 08:46 AM - Re: Hard Points (europaman)
     4. 10:59 AM - wing walk re-inforcement (William McClellan)
     5. 02:10 PM - Re: Hard Points (craig bastin)
     6. 03:59 PM - Re: Hard Points (Fred Klein)
     7. 04:03 PM - Re: long ranger fuel tank (Jim Brown)
     8. 05:15 PM - Re: long ranger fuel tank (Kevin Klinefelter)
     9. 05:52 PM - Re: long ranger fuel tank (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
    10. 06:40 PM - Re: wing walk re-inforcement (ALAN YERLY)
    11. 08:39 PM - Re: Hard Points (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | long ranger fuel tank | 
      
      Hi All 
      
      My long range fuel siphon bulb has begun to leak. Does anyone know of a 
      good replacement, and where I can order one from? My tiny town does not 
      have what I need.
      
      Thanks, Kevin
      
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| Subject:  | croatian language study | 
      
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      Thanks Duane,
      I found the ones in the fuselage. I am comfortable I found center too. 
      
      How about the piece in the back of the headrest? Where is the center for the bolt
      there?
      
      Troy Maynor
      
      
      Visit -  www.EuropaOwners.org
      
      
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| Subject:  | wing walk re-inforcement | 
      
      
      Bud,
      To clarify and get specific, from the recent discussion on wing walk re-inforcement,
      you suggest a layer of epoxy/glass from wing root fairing to first rib in
      D section at about 16" out from root after the filler has been applied so as
      to sandwich for more strength.  So I plan to add 2 ply bid to top wing surface
      for and aft of spar after the filler.  Would this be your solution?
      Thanks,
      Bill McClellan
      A164
      
      
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      My headrest hard points extend upwards from the seat top 80mm
      and measure in 75mm from each side of the head rest to find the
      top corner at the 80mm height from the seat top. hope this helps
      
      craig
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of europaman
      Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2009 1:44 AM
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hard Points
      
      
      
      Thanks Duane,
      I found the ones in the fuselage. I am comfortable I found center too.
      
      How about the piece in the back of the headrest? Where is the center for the
      bolt there?
      
      Troy Maynor
      
      
      Visit -  www.EuropaOwners.org
      
      
      Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
      18:51:00
      
      
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      On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:43 AM, europaman wrote:
      
      > How about the piece in the back of the headrest? Where is the center  
      > for the bolt there?
      
      Troy,
      
      Another way of describing the location of the center of the hardpoint  
      on the back of the headrest is approx. 40mm up from the deck of the CM  
      on the centerline of the headrest.
      
      Fred
      
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| Subject:  | Re: long ranger fuel tank | 
      
      Kevin.
      -
      Go by any boat store, Wall Mart etc.these bulbs are produced for boats that
       have a portable fuel tank...they serve the same purpose as the bulb for th
      e long range tank sold by Europa.
      -
      Jim Brown
      
      --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com> wrote:
      
      
      From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
      Subject: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank
      
      
      Hi All 
      -
      My long range fuel siphon bulb has begun to leak. Does anyone know of a goo
      d replacement, and where I can order one from? My tiny town does not have w
      hat I need.
      -
      Thanks, Kevin
      
      
      =0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: long ranger fuel tank | 
      
      Jim, Thanks
      My problem is I live in Bishop CA, very small town surrounded by high 
      desert and mountains. We don't have a boat store or a Wall Mart! Not 
      much water around.I guess I just gotta go to the big city, couple 
      hundred miles, since I can't seem to find what I need on the internet. 
      At least now I can fly to the big city!
      Kevin
      do not archive
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jim Brown 
        To: europa-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:00 PM
        Subject: Re: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank
      
      
              Kevin.
      
              Go by any boat store, Wall Mart etc.these bulbs are produced for 
      boats that have a portable fuel tank...they serve the same purpose as 
      the bulb for the long range tank sold by Europa.
      
              Jim Brown
      
              --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com> 
      wrote:
      
      
                From: Kevin Klinefelter <kevann@gotsky.com>
                Subject: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank
                To: europa-list@matronics.com
                Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 12:54 PM
      
      
                Hi All 
      
                My long range fuel siphon bulb has begun to leak. Does anyone 
      know of a good replacement, and where I can order one from? My tiny town 
      does not have what I need.
      
                Thanks, Kevin
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: long ranger fuel tank | 
      
      
      Hi Kevin
      
      "Ican't seem to find what I need on the
      internet."
      
      Have a look at Aircraft Spruce.
      Search"fuel bulb" or "primer bulb" and thou
      shall find.
      
      I know someultralights used to use them.
      
      http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/primerbulb.php
      
      Ron Parigoris
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: wing walk re-inforcement | 
      
      Bill,
      Yes, but not as far aft as you suggest.  It is my opinion that the ribs 
      aft of the spar on the XS and MG along the walkway are sufficient to 
      prevent flexing and cracking of the filler.  My main concern was for 
      that area from the main spar forward where there is a gap between the 
      root rib and the next rib going outboard of some 16 inches.  This area 
      was never intended as a walkway, but is often used for such.  Due to 
      flexing of that area from pilots (me included) entering the aircraft 
      from the front causes the skin to sag under our "load" and cause cracks 
      in the filler.  The extra thick filler (nearly an 1/8 inch) in this area 
      is from the wing root fillet junction.
      
      Since the fillet requires a significant area of fill, why not put two 
      layers of glass bid over the filler from the leading edge, out to the 
      1st rib (tapered for easy fill) and aft to a point just aft of the spar 
      line, then refill.  This would make a heavy, but stiff skin area which 
      would help spread the load on the skin area without contributing to 
      significant stress riser complications when the wing flexes under flight 
      loads.  Think of it as added pilot butt support.  I've done it on 
      aircraft where the fillet didn't fit well and back filled the inside of 
      the fillet to keep flexing and cracking down at the fillet spar 
      junction.  It seemed to help...I don't use flox to fill, because of the 
      weight anymore... You can add a kilo in a heartbeat.
      
      The intentions of the company are to add more ribs to the leading edge 
      in question, but that is a change in design and we all know how long the 
      
      bureaucrats will take on that one.
      
      
      Bud Yerly
      Citizen of the World...
      Custom Flight Creations
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: William McClellan<mailto:wilwood@earthlink.net> 
        To: Europa-List@matronics.com<mailto:Europa-List@matronics.com> 
        Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 1:45 PM
        Subject: Europa-List: wing walk re-inforcement
      
      
      <wilwood@earthlink.net<mailto:wilwood@earthlink.net>>
      
        Bud,
        To clarify and get specific, from the recent discussion on wing walk 
      re-inforcement, you suggest a layer of epoxy/glass from wing root 
      fairing to first rib in D section at about 16" out from root after the 
      filler has been applied so as to sandwich for more strength.  So I plan 
      to add 2 ply bid to top wing surface for and aft of spar after the 
      filler.  Would this be your solution?
        Thanks,
        Bill McClellan
        A164
      
      
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      on>
      
      
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      Troy,
      
      Looks like others beat me to it. Good luck.
      
      Mike
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      less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)
      
 
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