---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/28/09: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:06 AM - long ranger fuel tank (Kevin Klinefelter) 2. 08:45 AM - croatian language study (danijela mandusic) 3. 08:46 AM - Re: Hard Points (europaman) 4. 10:59 AM - wing walk re-inforcement (William McClellan) 5. 02:10 PM - Re: Hard Points (craig bastin) 6. 03:59 PM - Re: Hard Points (Fred Klein) 7. 04:03 PM - Re: long ranger fuel tank (Jim Brown) 8. 05:15 PM - Re: long ranger fuel tank (Kevin Klinefelter) 9. 05:52 PM - Re: long ranger fuel tank (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us) 10. 06:40 PM - Re: wing walk re-inforcement (ALAN YERLY) 11. 08:39 PM - Re: Hard Points (DuaneFamly@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:07 AM PST US From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank Hi All My long range fuel siphon bulb has begun to leak. Does anyone know of a good replacement, and where I can order one from? My tiny town does not have what I need. Thanks, Kevin ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:24 AM PST US From: danijela mandusic Subject: Europa-List: croatian language study CROATIAN LANGUAGE COURSE=0A=0A =0Ain collaboration of Educational Center P reko ( POU Preko) and travel agency Con Sole=0A=0ADescription: The Educatio nal Center Preko ( POU=0APreko) is located in a beautiful charming old buil ding which has been=0Atotally renovated on 2007. in the village Preko on th e island of Ugljan.=0A=0AOur Educational Center is located in the center o f Preko and is only 5 meters distance from the beach.=0A=0AThe Center offer s good facilities including: large classroom, teaching materials, video mat erials and is fully air-conditioned.=0A=0ATeachers hold a university degree in teaching Croatian as a foreign language to foreign students and the sch ool has a good mix of international students from around the world. 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I am comfortable I found center too. How about the piece in the back of the headrest? Where is the center for the bolt there? Troy Maynor Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:16 AM PST US From: William McClellan Subject: Europa-List: wing walk re-inforcement Bud, To clarify and get specific, from the recent discussion on wing walk re-inforcement, you suggest a layer of epoxy/glass from wing root fairing to first rib in D section at about 16" out from root after the filler has been applied so as to sandwich for more strength. So I plan to add 2 ply bid to top wing surface for and aft of spar after the filler. Would this be your solution? Thanks, Bill McClellan A164 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:32 PM PST US From: "craig bastin" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Hard Points My headrest hard points extend upwards from the seat top 80mm and measure in 75mm from each side of the head rest to find the top corner at the 80mm height from the seat top. hope this helps craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of europaman Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2009 1:44 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hard Points Thanks Duane, I found the ones in the fuselage. I am comfortable I found center too. How about the piece in the back of the headrest? Where is the center for the bolt there? Troy Maynor Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 18:51:00 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:43 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hard Points On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:43 AM, europaman wrote: > How about the piece in the back of the headrest? Where is the center > for the bolt there? Troy, Another way of describing the location of the center of the hardpoint on the back of the headrest is approx. 40mm up from the deck of the CM on the centerline of the headrest. Fred -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:59 PM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank Kevin. - Go by any boat store, Wall Mart etc.these bulbs are produced for boats that have a portable fuel tank...they serve the same purpose as the bulb for th e long range tank sold by Europa. - Jim Brown --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Kevin Klinefelter wrote: From: Kevin Klinefelter Subject: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank Hi All - My long range fuel siphon bulb has begun to leak. Does anyone know of a goo d replacement, and where I can order one from? My tiny town does not have w hat I need. - Thanks, Kevin =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:05 PM PST US From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: Re: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank Jim, Thanks My problem is I live in Bishop CA, very small town surrounded by high desert and mountains. We don't have a boat store or a Wall Mart! Not much water around.I guess I just gotta go to the big city, couple hundred miles, since I can't seem to find what I need on the internet. At least now I can fly to the big city! Kevin do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Brown To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:00 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank Kevin. Go by any boat store, Wall Mart etc.these bulbs are produced for boats that have a portable fuel tank...they serve the same purpose as the bulb for the long range tank sold by Europa. Jim Brown --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Kevin Klinefelter wrote: From: Kevin Klinefelter Subject: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank To: europa-list@matronics.com Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 12:54 PM Hi All My long range fuel siphon bulb has begun to leak. Does anyone know of a good replacement, and where I can order one from? My tiny town does not have what I need. Thanks, Kevin arget=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List =nofollow>http://forums.matronics.com blank rel=nofollow>http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Hi Kevin "Ican't seem to find what I need on the internet." Have a look at Aircraft Spruce. Search"fuel bulb" or "primer bulb" and thou shall find. I know someultralights used to use them. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/primerbulb.php Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:05 PM PST US From: "ALAN YERLY" Subject: Re: Europa-List: wing walk re-inforcement Bill, Yes, but not as far aft as you suggest. It is my opinion that the ribs aft of the spar on the XS and MG along the walkway are sufficient to prevent flexing and cracking of the filler. My main concern was for that area from the main spar forward where there is a gap between the root rib and the next rib going outboard of some 16 inches. This area was never intended as a walkway, but is often used for such. Due to flexing of that area from pilots (me included) entering the aircraft from the front causes the skin to sag under our "load" and cause cracks in the filler. The extra thick filler (nearly an 1/8 inch) in this area is from the wing root fillet junction. Since the fillet requires a significant area of fill, why not put two layers of glass bid over the filler from the leading edge, out to the 1st rib (tapered for easy fill) and aft to a point just aft of the spar line, then refill. This would make a heavy, but stiff skin area which would help spread the load on the skin area without contributing to significant stress riser complications when the wing flexes under flight loads. Think of it as added pilot butt support. I've done it on aircraft where the fillet didn't fit well and back filled the inside of the fillet to keep flexing and cracking down at the fillet spar junction. It seemed to help...I don't use flox to fill, because of the weight anymore... You can add a kilo in a heartbeat. The intentions of the company are to add more ribs to the leading edge in question, but that is a change in design and we all know how long the bureaucrats will take on that one. Bud Yerly Citizen of the World... Custom Flight Creations ----- Original Message ----- From: William McClellan To: Europa-List@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 1:45 PM Subject: Europa-List: wing walk re-inforcement > Bud, To clarify and get specific, from the recent discussion on wing walk re-inforcement, you suggest a layer of epoxy/glass from wing root fairing to first rib in D section at about 16" out from root after the filler has been applied so as to sandwich for more strength. So I plan to add 2 ply bid to top wing surface for and aft of spar after the filler. Would this be your solution? Thanks, Bill McClellan A164 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:44 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hard Points Troy, Looks like others beat me to it. Good luck. Mike **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? 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