---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/02/09: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:20 AM - Re: Reamer available in "Free to a good home" (Greg Fuchs) 2. 12:27 AM - Re: Farewell to N914PB (Greg Fuchs) 3. 01:47 AM - () 4. 09:35 AM - Re: 914 Waste gate servo mounting position question (Terry Seaver (terrys)) 5. 10:42 AM - Re: unsubscribe (Paul Boulet) 6. 01:57 PM - Tank size (p-a.austin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:18 AM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Reamer available in "Free to a good home" I will contact you off list Do Not archive Hi Everyone, Thanks to Gary Robert's generosity, we now have a hand reamer that can be used to make the mandatory mod 72, strengthing of the undercarriage mounting frame. Here's the deal... I'll pay for the postage to whomever requests it first so long as that person agrees to do the same for whomever needs it next. And so on to the next person. See the info with the mod attached in the "Free to a good home" section. Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:18 AM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Farewell to N914PB Paul, I hope you will come back when life slows down enough for you to have the time. Take care, and Regards, Greg Fuchs _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Boulet Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Europa-List: Farewell to N914PB Hi all; This will probably be my last email to the group. I've de-registered and dismantled and sold off all the parts to N914PB. I can't afford the product liability exposure to selling what was a completed a/c. I appreciate all the camaraderie, brilliant engineering insight, and just plain outright fun I've had with the amazing Europa. Best of wishes to all of you, Paul Boulet, De-registered N914PB Malibu, CA ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:22 AM PST US ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:35:11 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: 914 Waste gate servo mounting position question From: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" Mike, We have not seen similar problems on 914 installations, which are different from the 912S. The key to look for are the spark plug wire marker bands. On ours, the ones on the lower plugs quickly shriveled up to a very thin, dark brown band that could no longer be read. If yours are still yellow and readable, you do not have the kind of cooling issue we had. Having said that all installations are not the same, I still believe our measurements gave a very strong indication that the gills are counterproductive to engine cooling in flight. Regards, Terry Seaver From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Parkin Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 11:08 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: 914 Waste gate servo mounting position question Bob and Terry, I must say that I find the subject of Europa cooling most baffling (pardon the pun). G-JULZ is constructed absolutely 'bog standard' apart from the addition of the Singleton firewall. My 914 engine pre-dates the later ducting and stuff that is fitted around the cylinders. You may recall that I had the cooling issues in Switzerland some years back which prompted me to lower the oil cooler from behind the radiator. Since then my problem has been getting the engine up to temperature to take-off - particularly in winter. It is true that the Evans coolant had an adverse effect such that in a sustained climb during the summer the engine temperature climbed quickly such that I had to level off early to control the temperatures. I think that the heat transfer properties of the Evans being less than that of water/glycol was enough to push the cooling system beyond its capability on a hot day. I am just completing the modification paperwork for my cowl flap which may or may not have any effect - certainly these days - trying to keep the engine temperatures up particularly in the cruise is the main problem. CHT and Oil temperatures circa 60-70 degs C are not unusual once established in the cruise. It is curious that some people have major cooling issues and other people don't. Perhaps I am missing something. I have just fitted a water temperature gauge which might help identify any problems. In light of Terry's experience, I will be watching the whole thing much more carefully. 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The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.] do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:05 PM PST US From: "p-a.austin" Subject: Europa-List: Tank size > Hi All, anyone tell me the tank size on a classic and the reserve please? Having just recalibrated my tank with a defunct fuel sender removed so I could see inside the tank during the process, the fuel starts crossing over the saddle into the reserve at 9.2 litres, the reserve reached the saddle level at approx 9 litres, at 20 litres I marked my sight glass as "Saddle level" which is my Fly-no-Fly level. With careful filling, at near full level, I can squeeze in 74 litres, a little over that it starts siphoning out the vent line. Peter Classic 198 Wilksch powered. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.