Today's Message Index:
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1. 03:15 AM - Re: Brake Fluid (Roger Bull)
2. 04:38 AM - Re: Battery capacity (craig bastin)
3. 05:13 AM - 912S upgrade (Neil France)
4. 09:05 AM - Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM Sube EA81 (glenn crowder)
5. 11:30 AM - Re: Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM Sube EA81 (Paul McAllister)
6. 11:44 AM - Re: Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM Sube EA81 (glenn crowder)
7. 12:25 PM - Re: tailwheel horn (danbish)
8. 01:26 PM - Fuel Vent Pipe (Flying Farmer)
9. 01:43 PM - Re: Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM Sube EA81 (Paul McAllister)
10. 02:50 PM - Re: Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM Sube EA81 (glenn crowder)
11. 04:10 PM - Re: Fuel Vent Pipe (Robert C Harrison)
12. 06:50 PM - Re: Fuel Vent Pipe (Kevin Klinefelter)
13. 08:37 PM - Re: Fuel Vent Pipe (JEFF ROBERTS)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of JEFF ROBERTS
Sent: 05 April 2009 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Brake Fluid
Hi Troy,
You are good to go on the dot-5. Sounds like your starting to see the
light at the end of the tunnel. Any chance you'll be doing some lose
formation flying at Rough River this year? ;o)
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 176 hours and back in the air.
On Apr 5, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Troy Maynor wrote:
> Hi Again All,
> I am about to put brake fluid in and bleed the system. Before I do, I
> want to make sure the data I found in the archive is correct. I read
> that DOT 5 silicone is good for ALL types of systems installed on the
> Europa. Mine is the original "Kart" design I think, that came with kit
> no. 120. I just wanted to make sure it's not going to consume my
> seals before I put it in. Any comments or suggestions.
> Troy Maynor
>
>
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| Subject: | Battery capacity |
I suggest you have a look for LiFePo batteries, some one had a link for them
here
a few months ago. the size and performance is quite a bit better than LiPo.
If memory
serves a 14v battery weighed in at about a pound and was good for about
150amp draw
so you could use it to start your A/C a bit of quick hunting I found AA size
cells 3.2 volts
at 10Ah capacity.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/225162127/Lithium_Battery_Pack_12V_20Ah_Li
FePO4.html
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul McAllister
Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2009 8:49 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Battery capacity
Hi All,
I am trying to determine the battery technology. Unless I am missing it,
I can't find it stated. Can anyone else ?
I did find a light weight battery for the race car fraternity that was Li
Ion, that was 4 pounds at around 16 a/h capacity, but I have lost the URL.
The Li Ion tehnology brings with it different problems. I saw a very
impressive video demonstrating a nail piercing a set of cells, the result
was explosive to say the least.
Anyhow, if anyone tumbles over the URL please forward it on to me.
Cheers, Paul
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If anyone is interested in upgrading their aircraft from 80HP to 100HP,
I have available, a 912S engine with 65 hours from new, and am looking
for a 912UL engine with reasonably low hours.
I am looking to do a deal , with or without labour costs included.
Anyone interested, please email me off list, or contact through the LAA
inspectors list.
Neil France.
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| Subject: | Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM Sube |
EA81
This is a flyaway S-LSA certified for the US market
http://www.eaglesportplane.com/ram115engine.asp
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| Subject: | Re: Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM |
Sube EA81
Hi Glen
I Googled for the RAM Engine's WEB site but didn't get a hit. Do you happen
to have a URL ? I was curious how much it weighed.
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| Subject: | Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM |
Sube EA81
Hey Paul - Rams site is http://www.ramengines.com/. There are quite a few
good pics
on the Patriot site showing engine mount/exhaust system mockups plus severa
l showing
the engine on a digital scale. Showing 140 lbs minus redrive=2C exhaust an
d oil/water
rads=2C 186 with redrive. http://www.eaglesportplane.com/constructiongalle
ry.asp
Glenn
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using
RAM Sube EA81
From: paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
Hi Glen
I Googled for the RAM Engine's WEB site but didn't get a hit. Do you happen
to have a URL ? I was curious how much it weighed.
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| Subject: | Re: tailwheel horn |
Hi Fred,
This should work fine. Thanks again, and happy building.
Dan
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Some Europas builders have mounted there fuel vent pipe on the bottom of there
fuselage insted of the top. On the tri-gear, I was wondering what has been found
to be the best location?
As picture paint a thousand words, I would be grateful for any you may have.
Thank you
Richard
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM |
Sube EA81
Hi Glenn,
I found the all up weight as 176 pounds wet. This is getting close to the
912S at 140 pounds wet at 160 for the 914.
The ram engine numbers weight are impressive. Although there are many other
parameters to be considered, at least this is starting to take the weight
argument off the table.
Paul
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| Subject: | Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using RAM |
Sube EA81
Hey Paul - the RAM install with my fixed pitch Catto prop seems to weigh in
about the same as a lot of 914's with C/S prop.
I weigh in at 930 lbs but I've got a number of weight saving projects to do
. I'm using a steel flywheel when I could go
to Alu=2C my exhaust system is made from .049 wall 304 SS when it could hav
e been .035=2C my motor mount could support
an Allison T56 according to some people=2C valve covers are heavy steel cou
ld easily be fiberglass=2C etc=2C etc.
Hoping to upgrade to a roller cam/rocker setup and MPFI at some point.
Glenn
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Another new US certified ASTM compliant LSA using
RAM Sube EA81
From: paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
Hi Glenn=2C
I found the all up weight as 176 pounds wet. This is getting close to the 9
12S at 140 pounds wet at 160 for the 914.
The ram engine numbers weight are impressive. Although there are many othe
r parameters to be considered=2C at least this is starting to take the weig
ht argument off the table.
Paul
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Hi! Richard
If you do a bottom vent pipe exit (say out one of the flap control hinge
slots in the floor you need an anti-siphon collector bottle in the top
of the fuselage roof which can empty back into the tank with the vent
continuing out of the bottle in a higher mode.
Sorry no pictures available.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Trike.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Flying
Farmer
Sent: 07 April 2009 21:24
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Vent Pipe
<rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk>
Some Europas builders have mounted there fuel vent pipe on the bottom of
there fuselage insted of the top. On the tri-gear, I was wondering what
has been found to be the best location?
As picture paint a thousand words, I would be grateful for any you may
have.
Thank you
Richard
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Vent Pipe |
I did mine the way Paul McAlister showed on his build web-site. Simple and
works very well. The "anti-siphon" fitting goes in the fuel filler neck. The
3/8" aluminum tubing vents well while filling the fuel. Thanks Paul!
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert C Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Vent Pipe
> <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Hi! Richard
> If you do a bottom vent pipe exit (say out one of the flap control hinge
> slots in the floor you need an anti-siphon collector bottle in the top
> of the fuselage roof which can empty back into the tank with the vent
> continuing out of the bottle in a higher mode.
> Sorry no pictures available.
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG Trike.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Flying
> Farmer
> Sent: 07 April 2009 21:24
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Vent Pipe
>
> <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk>
>
> Some Europas builders have mounted there fuel vent pipe on the bottom of
> there fuselage insted of the top. On the tri-gear, I was wondering what
> has been found to be the best location?
>
> As picture paint a thousand words, I would be grateful for any you may
> have.
>
> Thank you
> Richard
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Vent Pipe |
Thats how I did mine and it's worked perfect for 2 years.
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 180 hours and hoping for clear weather for
Sn-N-Fun.
On Apr 7, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Kevin Klinefelter wrote:
> <kevann@gotsky.com>
>
> I did mine the way Paul McAlister showed on his build web-site. Simple
> and works very well. The "anti-siphon" fitting goes in the fuel filler
> neck. The 3/8" aluminum tubing vents well while filling the fuel.
> Thanks Paul!
>
> Kevin
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C Harrison"
> <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 4:09 PM
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Vent Pipe
>
>
>> <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>>
>> Hi! Richard
>> If you do a bottom vent pipe exit (say out one of the flap control
>> hinge
>> slots in the floor you need an anti-siphon collector bottle in the top
>> of the fuselage roof which can empty back into the tank with the vent
>> continuing out of the bottle in a higher mode.
>> Sorry no pictures available.
>> Regards
>> Bob Harrison G-PTAG Trike.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Flying
>> Farmer
>> Sent: 07 April 2009 21:24
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Vent Pipe
>>
>> <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk>
>>
>> Some Europas builders have mounted there fuel vent pipe on the bottom
>> of
>> there fuselage insted of the top. On the tri-gear, I was wondering
>> what
>> has been found to be the best location?
>>
>> As picture paint a thousand words, I would be grateful for any you may
>> have.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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