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     1. 02:00 AM - Re: Brake Fluid (Roger Bull)
     2. 08:50 AM - Sun - N - Fun Updated Attendee List (Erich Trombley)
     3. 12:34 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (europaman)
     4. 02:21 PM - Battery disconnect......... (Fergus Kyle)
     5. 07:50 PM - Re: Battery disconnect......... (Christoph Both)
 
 
 
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      Troy,
      
      
      It sounds as though you have a trigear with toe brakes. The master
      cylinders are the same as for the monowheel, and, as originally
      supplied, contain seals that are appropriate for car type brake fluid.
      However the slave cylinders in the wheels have seals suitable for
      aircraft hydraulic fluid, so we provided new seals for the master
      cylinders as part of the fuselage kit.  Assuming these seals have been
      fitted, you should use aircraft hydraulic fluid.
      
      
      Regards,
      
      
      Roger 
      
      
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      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Troy Maynor
      Sent: 05 April 2009 22:31
      Subject: Europa-List: Brake Fluid
      
      
      Hi Again All, 
      
      I am about to put brake fluid in and bleed the system. Before I do, I
      want to make sure the data I found in the archive is correct. I read
      that DOT 5 silicone is good for ALL types of systems installed on the
      Europa. Mine is the original "Kart" design I think, that came with kit
      no. 120.  I just wanted to make sure it's not going to consume my seals
      before I put it in. Any comments or suggestions. 
      
      Troy Maynor
      
      
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| Subject:  | Sun - N - Fun Updated Attendee List | 
      
      Hello all,
      I have updated the list of potential Sun N Fun attendees.  Please review
       the list to verify I have the correct info.  Also, I am missing a few p
      hone numbers and other pieces of info.  If you would like me to update t
      he list please forward the info directly to my attention.  I will post t
      he spreadsheet with the final updates next Friday (4/17/09) so that you 
      can print out a final copy prior to leaving for the event.  
      
      Erich Trombley
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      Roger,
      Mine is a monowheel classic, vintage UK 120(about 1996).
      Thanks.
      Troy
      
      
      Visit -  www.EuropaOwners.org
      
      
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| Subject:  | Battery disconnect......... | 
      
      Cheers,
      	I for one am indebted to OCBaker and RNuckolls for the exchange of
      views recently - prompted by a question of battery disconnect under load.
      This is must-read material for all us newbies in the build status.
      	My question is prompted by the above. I have built a coming monster
      due to wanting to populate it with amateur radio "electro-whizzies" (as Bob
      says). This brought me to wondering how I can reduce longterm demands on
      current supply. I have a 914 which requires constant electrons for
      electrical fuel pumps. I added an SD20S but a 100watt HF transceiver can eat
      20amps easily, I know (car history).
      This led to the idea that the master contactor wants an amp or so all its
      life - that is a lot of juice - a thousand amp-hours if I don't prang. SO I
      installed a racing car cutoff switch instead on the firewall with an
      eleven-inch wooden key through a hole on the instru panel. If you can
      recognize the hole for what it is, you might steal the machine by
      fabricating my key.
      My question is:
      Have I done a useful thing? What is the expected useful life of a fairly
      simple (and supposedly rugged) device compared to these usual contactors?
      [Price was also a pleasantry].
      Expectently, Ferg
      
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| Subject:  | Battery disconnect......... | 
      
      
      Hi Ferg,
      I thought about this a lot while designing my panel. In the end I
      decided to go with a 150 amp continuous, 500 amp peak switch from a
      marine supplier. Same idea as you: have it mounted on the firewall side
      and drilled a hole through the instrument panel where I can insert a RED
      key. Panel comes off in under 1 minute. 
      
      ON-OFF markings for everyone to notice when leaving the aircraft or
      during emergency landings. However, I have it mounted on the co-pilot
      side, within view of the pilot. Saves me the special long key through
      the instrument panel to reach the firewall in case things get heated up
      in the cockpit. If I manage to get the battery mounted starboard forward
      engine compartment the lead between battery and starter will be
      extremely short (under 1 foot), saving weight and giving full voltage on
      starting my 912S. I have a classic engine mount and installed the
      standard engine starter.
      
      Without the battery solenoid (more prone to failure than a big size
      marine switch believe me!)  it saves me at least 1 ampere of load on the
      electrical system which I designed to draw no more than 2.5 without
      strobes then (5 amp with single strobe). I have Microair transceiver and
      Transponder pair). 
      
      Furthermore, I have glider wings in the waiting and need to keep the
      current down while gliding. So I have a 3 way panel master avionics
      switch planned which has 3 modes: OFF - ON - GLIDER. The glider
      essential bus services only essential electronics and will draw less
      than 1.5 amps/hr. That gives me 3 hrs glider flying without draining the
      16 AH main battery too much for a secure start. It would be easy to
      power the glider essential bus with a small NIMH battery (RC Car 10
      cell) I take home after flying. Cost me maybe $40 at the most. Marine
      switch was $30. You can start a truck with this. RNuckols is, I agree,
      an absolute must read.
      
      Christoph
      @223 Wolfville, Nova Scotia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
      Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:18 PM
      Subject: Europa-List: Battery disconnect.........
      
      Cheers,
      	I for one am indebted to OCBaker and RNuckolls for the exchange
      of
      views recently - prompted by a question of battery disconnect under
      load.
      This is must-read material for all us newbies in the build status.
      	My question is prompted by the above. I have built a coming
      monster
      due to wanting to populate it with amateur radio "electro-whizzies" (as
      Bob
      says). This brought me to wondering how I can reduce longterm demands on
      current supply. I have a 914 which requires constant electrons for
      electrical fuel pumps. I added an SD20S but a 100watt HF transceiver can
      eat
      20amps easily, I know (car history).
      This led to the idea that the master contactor wants an amp or so all
      its
      life - that is a lot of juice - a thousand amp-hours if I don't prang.
      SO I
      installed a racing car cutoff switch instead on the firewall with an
      eleven-inch wooden key through a hole on the instru panel. If you can
      recognize the hole for what it is, you might steal the machine by
      fabricating my key.
      My question is:
      Have I done a useful thing? What is the expected useful life of a fairly
      simple (and supposedly rugged) device compared to these usual
      contactors?
      [Price was also a pleasantry].
      Expectently, Ferg
      
      
 
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