Europa-List Digest Archive

Wed 04/08/09


Total Messages Posted: 5



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:00 AM - Re: Brake Fluid (Roger Bull)
     2. 08:50 AM - Sun - N - Fun Updated Attendee List (Erich Trombley)
     3. 12:34 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (europaman)
     4. 02:21 PM - Battery disconnect......... (Fergus Kyle)
     5. 07:50 PM - Re: Battery disconnect......... (Christoph Both)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:00:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Brake Fluid
    From: "Roger Bull" <roger@europa-aircraft.com>
    Troy, It sounds as though you have a trigear with toe brakes. The master cylinders are the same as for the monowheel, and, as originally supplied, contain seals that are appropriate for car type brake fluid. However the slave cylinders in the wheels have seals suitable for aircraft hydraulic fluid, so we provided new seals for the master cylinders as part of the fuselage kit. Assuming these seals have been fitted, you should use aircraft hydraulic fluid. Regards, Roger ________________________________ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Troy Maynor Sent: 05 April 2009 22:31 Subject: Europa-List: Brake Fluid Hi Again All, I am about to put brake fluid in and bleed the system. Before I do, I want to make sure the data I found in the archive is correct. I read that DOT 5 silicone is good for ALL types of systems installed on the Europa. Mine is the original "Kart" design I think, that came with kit no. 120. I just wanted to make sure it's not going to consume my seals before I put it in. Any comments or suggestions. Troy Maynor


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    Time: 08:50:30 AM PST US
    From: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
    Subject: Sun - N - Fun Updated Attendee List
    Hello all, I have updated the list of potential Sun N Fun attendees. Please review the list to verify I have the correct info. Also, I am missing a few p hone numbers and other pieces of info. If you would like me to update t he list please forward the info directly to my attention. I will post t he spreadsheet with the final updates next Friday (4/17/09) so that you can print out a final copy prior to leaving for the event. Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Discover how much can a college degree can change your life. 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    Roger, Mine is a monowheel classic, vintage UK 120(about 1996). Thanks. Troy Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org


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    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Battery disconnect.........
    Cheers, I for one am indebted to OCBaker and RNuckolls for the exchange of views recently - prompted by a question of battery disconnect under load. This is must-read material for all us newbies in the build status. My question is prompted by the above. I have built a coming monster due to wanting to populate it with amateur radio "electro-whizzies" (as Bob says). This brought me to wondering how I can reduce longterm demands on current supply. I have a 914 which requires constant electrons for electrical fuel pumps. I added an SD20S but a 100watt HF transceiver can eat 20amps easily, I know (car history). This led to the idea that the master contactor wants an amp or so all its life - that is a lot of juice - a thousand amp-hours if I don't prang. SO I installed a racing car cutoff switch instead on the firewall with an eleven-inch wooden key through a hole on the instru panel. If you can recognize the hole for what it is, you might steal the machine by fabricating my key. My question is: Have I done a useful thing? What is the expected useful life of a fairly simple (and supposedly rugged) device compared to these usual contactors? [Price was also a pleasantry]. Expectently, Ferg


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    Time: 07:50:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Battery disconnect.........
    From: "Christoph Both" <christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
    Hi Ferg, I thought about this a lot while designing my panel. In the end I decided to go with a 150 amp continuous, 500 amp peak switch from a marine supplier. Same idea as you: have it mounted on the firewall side and drilled a hole through the instrument panel where I can insert a RED key. Panel comes off in under 1 minute. ON-OFF markings for everyone to notice when leaving the aircraft or during emergency landings. However, I have it mounted on the co-pilot side, within view of the pilot. Saves me the special long key through the instrument panel to reach the firewall in case things get heated up in the cockpit. If I manage to get the battery mounted starboard forward engine compartment the lead between battery and starter will be extremely short (under 1 foot), saving weight and giving full voltage on starting my 912S. I have a classic engine mount and installed the standard engine starter. Without the battery solenoid (more prone to failure than a big size marine switch believe me!) it saves me at least 1 ampere of load on the electrical system which I designed to draw no more than 2.5 without strobes then (5 amp with single strobe). I have Microair transceiver and Transponder pair). Furthermore, I have glider wings in the waiting and need to keep the current down while gliding. So I have a 3 way panel master avionics switch planned which has 3 modes: OFF - ON - GLIDER. The glider essential bus services only essential electronics and will draw less than 1.5 amps/hr. That gives me 3 hrs glider flying without draining the 16 AH main battery too much for a secure start. It would be easy to power the glider essential bus with a small NIMH battery (RC Car 10 cell) I take home after flying. Cost me maybe $40 at the most. Marine switch was $30. You can start a truck with this. RNuckols is, I agree, an absolute must read. Christoph @223 Wolfville, Nova Scotia -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: Europa-List: Battery disconnect......... Cheers, I for one am indebted to OCBaker and RNuckolls for the exchange of views recently - prompted by a question of battery disconnect under load. This is must-read material for all us newbies in the build status. My question is prompted by the above. I have built a coming monster due to wanting to populate it with amateur radio "electro-whizzies" (as Bob says). This brought me to wondering how I can reduce longterm demands on current supply. I have a 914 which requires constant electrons for electrical fuel pumps. I added an SD20S but a 100watt HF transceiver can eat 20amps easily, I know (car history). This led to the idea that the master contactor wants an amp or so all its life - that is a lot of juice - a thousand amp-hours if I don't prang. SO I installed a racing car cutoff switch instead on the firewall with an eleven-inch wooden key through a hole on the instru panel. If you can recognize the hole for what it is, you might steal the machine by fabricating my key. My question is: Have I done a useful thing? What is the expected useful life of a fairly simple (and supposedly rugged) device compared to these usual contactors? [Price was also a pleasantry]. Expectently, Ferg




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