---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/11/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:40 AM - Henstridge Sunday 12th (Paddy Clarke) 2. 01:47 AM - Re: help requested to recover a Europa from FRANCE back to UK (Tim Houlihan) 3. 05:38 AM - Re: help requested to recover a Europa from FRANCE back to UK (Robert C Harrison) 4. 06:03 AM - Re: Henstridge Sunday 12th (rick@amimotormanagement.co.uk) 5. 01:33 PM - Re: wingroot fairing update (Graham Singleton) 6. 02:18 PM - Re: wingroot fairing update (Fred Klein) 7. 04:56 PM - Re: wingroot fairing update (Graham Singleton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:40:37 AM PST US From: Paddy Clarke Subject: Europa-List: Henstridge Sunday 12th Hi Folks, There is a Wessex strut fly-in to Henstridge tomorrow ( Easter Sunday). I hope to make it and it would be good to see any other DOTHers ( or anyone else ) there. Cheers, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa G-KIMM Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:52 AM PST US From: Tim Houlihan Subject: Re: Europa-List: help requested to recover a Europa from FRANCE back to UK Hi. At 9 o clock this morning I received a phone call from Robin James asking for assistance to recover his Europa from France. Last weekend Robin flew to EDNY FRIEDRICHSHAFEN , on his way home he met bad weather and left his Europa at LFFN BRIENNE LE CHATEAU which is approx 20miles NE of Troyes he came home by rail and is asking if anyone can assist by flying him to France to recover the plane. He is based at Shobdon and tells me that the weather tomorrow, Sunday, is the best chance for some time to fly down to recover the plane. He has been unable to find anyone at Shobdon able to assist tomorrow. David Corbett has family commitments tomorrow and I have visitors from Italy this weekend. Can anyone assist Robin ? he can be reached on 07801018263. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:03 AM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: help requested to recover a Europa from FRANCE back to UK Sorry Mine is grounded for strobe, mode S and annual inspection, Major Service. and just having had a double hernia op. me too for a while longer ! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Houlihan Sent: 11 April 2009 09:45 Subject: Re: Europa-List: help requested to recover a Europa from FRANCE back to UK Hi. At 9 o clock this morning I received a phone call from Robin James asking for assistance to recover his Europa from France. Last weekend Robin flew to EDNY FRIEDRICHSHAFEN , on his way home he met bad weather and left his Europa at LFFN BRIENNE LE CHATEAU which is approx 20miles NE of Troyes he came home by rail and is asking if anyone can assist by flying him to France to recover the plane. He is based at Shobdon and tells me that the weather tomorrow, Sunday, is the best chance for some time to fly down to recover the plane. He has been unable to find anyone at Shobdon able to assist tomorrow. David Corbett has family commitments tomorrow and I have visitors from Italy this weekend. Can anyone assist Robin ? he can be reached on 07801018263. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Henstridge Sunday 12th From: rick@amimotormanagement.co.uk SGkgUGFkZHkNClNlZSB5b3UgdGhlcmUhDQpDaGVlcnMNClJpY2sNClNlbnQgdXNpbmcgQmxhY2tC ZXJyea4gZnJvbSBPcmFuZ2UNCg0KLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0NCkZyb206IFBh ZGR5IENsYXJrZSA8cGFkZHljbGFya2VAbGluZW9uZS5uZXQ+DQoNCkRhdGU6IFNhdCwgMTEgQXBy IDIwMDkgMDk6Mzg6NDEgDQpUbzogPGV1cm9wYS1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+DQpTdWJqZWN0 OiBFdXJvcGEtTGlzdDogSGVuc3RyaWRnZSBTdW5kYXkgMTJ0aA0KDQoNCg0K ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:49 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: wingroot fairing update flyingphil2 wrote: > Hi Fred, > > Well done on constructing the wing root fairings - they look really good. > > I'll be interested to see how the flight testing goes. The first picture with the flaps deployed seems to show two very large vortex generators (i.e the fairings attached to the flaps). I wonder how the aircraft will behave at high angles of attack and whether you will get increased turbulence on the tailplanes? > > Regards, > > Phil Phil this might give you an idea, never a problem imho. The unmodified flap will still cause a large vortex anyway Graham ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:18:22 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: wingroot fairing update Hi Graham...Justin Kennedy is, hopefully today, completing some flight tests with G-ZTED which is equipped with some substantial wingroot fairings (designed by Justin) which are similar to mine. When Justin has his data organized, it will be posted. I will say now however, that last week Justin performed some tests at high AOAs w/ flaps and gear down specifically to explore the area of Phil's concern and found no untoward behavior. Justin's flights scheduled for today are to follow some flight profiles suggested by David Joyce which should, when compared with results when flown with a similarly equipped Europa but with the stock wingroot fairings, may give some indication as to how the special fairings increase flight efficiencies and enhance L/D ratios. In addition to Justin's flight testing, Jeff Behrnes will soon be doing some flight tests with his XS trigear, Baby Blue, both with, and without, the fairings which I have made. Stay tuned. Fred A194 On Apr 11, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Graham Singleton wrote: > flyingphil2 wrote: >> Hi Fred, >> >> Well done on constructing the wing root fairings - they look really >> good. >> >> I'll be interested to see how the flight testing goes. The first >> picture with the flaps deployed seems to show two very large vortex >> generators (i.e the fairings attached to the flaps). I wonder how >> the aircraft will behave at high angles of attack and whether you >> will get increased turbulence on the tailplanes? >> >> Regards, >> >> Phil > Phil > this might give you an idea, never a problem imho. The unmodified > flap will still cause a large vortex anyway > Graham > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:48 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: wingroot fairing update Fred Klein wrote: > > Hi Graham...Justin Kennedy is, hopefully today, completing some flight > tests with G-ZTED which is equipped with some substantial wingroot > fairings (designed by Justin) which are similar to mine. When Justin > has his data organized, it will be posted. I will say now however, > that last week Justin performed some tests at high AOAs w/ flaps and > gear down specifically to explore the area of Phil's concern and found > no untoward behavior. > Fred > A194 thanks Fred, look forward to the results Graham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.