---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/13/09: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:09 AM - Re: 914 Turbo controller cable () 2. 05:59 AM - Re: Bungee cord type (david miller) 3. 10:28 AM - Re: Bungee cord type (david miller) 4. 10:29 AM - Michigan Airports (david miller) 5. 12:35 PM - Re: EuropaOwners is Moving (josok) 6. 02:03 PM - finger strainers (Peter Rees) 7. 02:13 PM - Re: Carriage of ELT in Netherlands (Frans Veldman) 8. 04:20 PM - Re: finger strainers (ALAN YERLY) 9. 05:22 PM - pitot tube connectors (Fred Klein) 10. 06:51 PM - Re: pitot tube connectors (Paul McAllister) 11. 07:32 PM - Re: pitot tube connectors (Fred Klein) 12. 08:20 PM - Re: pitot tube connectors (ALAN YERLY) 13. 10:29 PM - Door Hinges (danbish) 14. 10:35 PM - Bungee Install (danbish) 15. 11:00 PM - Re: Bungee Install (nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk) 16. 11:55 PM - Re: finger strainers () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:37 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 Turbo controller cable Hi Ferg I fitted the cable then trimmed of the surplus, it still leaves you adjustment at the turbo end, for when the cable stretches, I also fitted a Ali cover over the motor to stop any interference with nearby cables, regards ivor ---- Fergus Kyle wrote: > Cheers, > Ferg on the beg again..... > I am trying to maximize the tiny instrument panel volume and have > come across my nemesis, the small rotating disc housing the turbo control > cable on the motor sitting on the centre mount - quite starboard. To mount > the panel, I have carved out the base of the panel but now observe that the > 2inches or so (5-6cm) excess to the disc would appear to flail about when > the controller is adjusting the gate. Since this was all mounted according > to the Europa instructions I suspect I'm not the only one. > Thing is, can I nip a bit off what appears to be excess cable? ... > or will I find somewhere down the build I shouldn't have touched its > precious self? That trim would give me a couple more cubic inches of space > for other devices. > What did you do? > Ferg > Soobs and Jabs need not apply ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:48 AM PST US From: david miller Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bungee cord type Hi Paul, Yes it is the 5/16, I'll be out at the airport today and will measure the blue stripe again, If it is not 3/8" wide I will let you know. Dave do not archive On 12-Apr-09, at 7:28 PM, Paul McAllister wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Thank you for your timely post. I measured my stuff (which has a > blue stripe) and it came out at 3/8" so I was about to purchase 3/8 > shock cord from ACS. From what your telling me it looks like I > need to buy the 5/16. > > Thanks, Paul > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:46 AM PST US From: david miller Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bungee cord type Hi Paul, The blue stripe is a full 3/8" Dave On 13-Apr-09, at 9:06 AM, david miller wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Yes it is the 5/16, I'll be out at the airport today and will > measure the blue stripe again, If it is not 3/8" wide I will let > you know. > > Dave > > do not archive > On 12-Apr-09, at 7:28 PM, Paul McAllister wrote: > >> Hi Dave, >> >> Thank you for your timely post. I measured my stuff (which has a >> blue stripe) and it came out at 3/8" so I was about to purchase >> 3/8 shock cord from ACS. From what your telling me it looks like >> I need to buy the 5/16. >> >> Thanks, Paul >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http:// >> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http:// >> www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:22 AM PST US From: david miller Subject: Europa-List: Michigan Airports I was just re-reading the requirements for entering the U.S., all in all a bit of a pain. However, I wonder if anyone can suggest a G.A. friendly airport with customs and preferably alternate runways and a restaurant that would make for a nice day trip. I'd be crossing over at Port Huron. Dave C-FBZI ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:08 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: EuropaOwners is Moving From: "josok" Dan, You have to be logged in. But do us a favour, wait until the move is done, bandwith and disk capacity are still limited. I hope to be able to announce the new home is a few days. Regards, Jos Okhuijsen Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:48 PM PST US From: "Peter Rees" Subject: Europa-List: finger strainers Gents I'm in the process of making up the water (or hopefully just fuel) drain mod for fitting to HI. I've made up the finger strainers and the manual says that they can be soldered or reduxed. I tried to solder them but couldn't really get the gauze clean enough to solder well enough that I was happy there wouldn't be bits of solder wandering about on both sides of the Gauze. I acquired another piece of gauze from Europa and this time, reduxed it along the seam and around the end where its pinched onto the copper tube. My question is, after soaking the unit in petrol for about 6 hours, the redux doesn't appear to be 100 percent fuel resistant as it seems to have softened (it was given about 72 hrs to cure). Does anyone know if Redux is OK for permanent immersion in Mogas? Thanks Peter ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:30 PM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carriage of ELT in Netherlands David Corbett wrote: > Can our Europa friends in Holland please confirm whether this is the > case I am asking on behalf of a group of UK aircraft, including my > Europa, which are going to night stop at Lelystad for 3 nights en route > to Norway. > > And how rigidly is the carriage of Mode S above 1800 amsl being enforced? Just an update: We now have an official Transponder Prohibited Zone, covering about half the country. Lelystad is within this TPZ. Most likely you will only fly inside this TPZ. Now, before you logically conclude that you don't need a mode S transponder to cross the Netherlands, I hate to have to tell you that carriage of a mode S transponder is still mandatory in the Netherlands. You are only not allowed to turn it on. Welcome to our wonderful country. -- Frans Veldman ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:52 PM PST US From: ALAN YERLY Subject: RE: Europa-List: finger strainers Pete=2C I just pulled a tank out of an 8 year old Europa with Redux/Araldite/Epibon d 420 A/B and it is holding up very well. 10% Ethynol Mogas can soften the outer layer just as it does most sealers l ike Pro Seal=2C and the bond still holds at a 10% ratio. Keep in mind=2C t hat Redux cured below 75F or until a full week will not be totally cured=2C but will hold. Huntsman produces product data sheets with characteristic reaction to chemicals. My tests in the shop use the Redux to hold various acrylics/urethanes to te st for fuel tubing=2C and the Redux holds up perfectly for me in a week lon g test. As for soldering=2C I use a scotch bright cleaning=2C flux and a torch to s older=2C just like I do with copper water supply lines...No problem. But I always use Redux to seat the gauze in the fuel fitting. Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations (813) 653-4989 Europa Dealer > From: peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: finger strainers > Date: Mon=2C 13 Apr 2009 21:59:06 +0100 > uk> > > Gents > > I'm in the process of making up the water (or hopefully just fuel) drain > mod for fitting to HI. I've made up the finger strainers and the manual s ays > that they can be soldered or reduxed. I tried to solder them but couldn't > really get the gauze clean enough to solder well enough that I was happy > there wouldn't be bits of solder wandering about on both sides of the Gau ze. > > I acquired another piece of gauze from Europa and this time=2C reduxed it > along the seam and around the end where its pinched onto the copper tube. My > question is=2C after soaking the unit in petrol for about 6 hours=2C the redux > doesn't appear to be 100 percent fuel resistant as it seems to have softe ned > (it was given about 72 hrs to cure). Does anyone know if Redux is OK for > permanent immersion in Mogas? > > Thanks > > Peter > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:14 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Europa-List: pitot tube connectors Guys... I have carelessly allowed the barb on the pitot tube connector used at the wing root to be snapped off...these are those cute little white nylon male/female connectors. I need a replacement. I note in the Acft. Spruce catalog an item which APPEARS to be the right part; a P/ N 05-01036 which is listed as a fuel line connector for 1/4" tubing. Inasmuch as the actual hole in the barb and tubing supplied w/ the kit is only about 1/16" diameter, I question whether this size would be appropriate for use as part of a fuel system. Before I order the replacement part, is there anyone who can verify that the P/N above is the correct size for the pitot system? Thankx, Fred A194 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:51:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: pitot tube connectors From: Paul McAllister Hi Fred, I can't confirm that it is the correct part or not, but if it turns out that it isn't then I think you can find what you need at McMaster Carr. Take a look at: http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/184/=1fnqwu Which should be (if I haven't messed it up) page 183 of their catalog. Also, when you get to plumbing up pitot static system I see that Stenair have some really neat connector systems. See http://www.steinair.com/pitot.htm Regards, Paul ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:57 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: pitot tube connectors On Apr 13, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Paul McAllister wrote: > I can't confirm that it is the correct part or not, but if it turns > out that it isn't then I think you can find what you need at > McMaster Carr. Take a look at: > > http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/184/=1fnqwu > > Also, when you get to plumbing up pitot static system I see that > Stenair have some really neat connector systems. See http://www.steinair.com/pitot.htm Thanks Paul...right on the money! Fred -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:20:54 PM PST US From: ALAN YERLY Subject: RE: Europa-List: pitot tube connectors Fred=2C The part is made by Colder Products Company (PC1701 and 1201 I believe) and I stock them in sets as I go through them like water and use them many mor e places. Some additional uses are: the manifold line=2C alternate static sources=2C Dynon pitot tubes where I build them on to a panel for convenien t access=2C altitude encoder for testing=2C etc. Everybody should have a spare set and a spare static end for the pitot. Go od insurance. They are about $5.00 a set. email me off line and I can get you some. Bud Custom Flight Creations (813) 653-4989 From: fklein@orcasonline.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: pitot tube connectors On Apr 13=2C 2009=2C at 6:49 PM=2C Paul McAllister wrote: I can't confirm that it is the correct part or not=2C but if it turns out t hat it isn't then I think you can find what you need at McMaster Carr. Tak e a look at: http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/115/184/=1fnqwu Also=2C when you get to plumbing up pitot static system I see that Stenair have some really neat connector systems. See http://www.steinair.com/pitot .htm Thanks Paul...right on the money! Fred -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner=2C and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:29:56 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Door Hinges From: "danbish" Since it looks like my kit is missing door hinges of any type, I'll have to get some. I seem to remember talk of stronger hinges for the doors being spec'd out at some point. Anyone have a vendor/part # handy? Thanks, Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:28 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Bungee Install From: "danbish" Hi All, I remember seeing something on here about a slight mod to the installation of the bungee cord, something about cutting it into 2 pieces? Can't find anything on it now, just wondering if there's anyone with more info on this and what the benefit is of doing it. Thanks, Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:00:54 PM PST US From: "nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bungee Install I routed mine so the ends were ar the bottom. The ends are fixed through eyebolts mounted on the top side of the mono leg. This enables them to be adjusted for tension from below without removing the firewall. Nigel Charles >----Original Message---- >From: bdanbish@gmail.com >Date: 14/04/2009 6:33 >To: >Subj: Europa-List: Bungee Install > > >Hi All, > >I remember seeing something on here about a slight mod to the installation of the bungee cord, something about cutting it into 2 pieces? Can't find anything on it now, just wondering if there's anyone with more info on this and what the benefit is of doing it. > >Thanks, > >Dan > > >Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/security - What's your view on the Government's proposal to monitor your Facebook, MySpace, Bebo and Twitter communication? _______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:07 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Europa-List: finger strainers Hi Peter My finger filters were soldered then redux into there connectors four years ago took them out over christmas and found no deterioration in there bonding, Even with the aircraft stood idle i have always kept fuel in her, regards Ivor ---- Peter Rees wrote: > > Gents > > I'm in the process of making up the water (or hopefully just fuel) drain > mod for fitting to HI. I've made up the finger strainers and the manual says > that they can be soldered or reduxed. I tried to solder them but couldn't > really get the gauze clean enough to solder well enough that I was happy > there wouldn't be bits of solder wandering about on both sides of the Gauze. > > I acquired another piece of gauze from Europa and this time, reduxed it > along the seam and around the end where its pinched onto the copper tube. My > question is, after soaking the unit in petrol for about 6 hours, the redux > doesn't appear to be 100 percent fuel resistant as it seems to have softened > (it was given about 72 hrs to cure). Does anyone know if Redux is OK for > permanent immersion in Mogas? > > Thanks > > Peter > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.