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1. 04:09 AM - Re: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? (Raimo Toivio)
2. 04:54 AM - Re: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? (craig bastin)
3. 05:34 AM - Re: Brake pads (Raimo Toivio)
4. 05:34 AM - Re: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? (Raimo Toivio)
5. 07:04 AM - SV: Brake pads (Sidsel og Svein Johnsen)
6. 02:43 PM - Re: SV: Brake pads (rparigoris)
7. 11:39 PM - Sale of DEJWD (Frank Kusserow)
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| Subject: | Re: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? |
Bob
Thanks for good advice.
As I have noticed by myself - it is not a problem to make it clean.
It is a problem to make it clean w/o same time making those invisible
scratches.
That copy "Aircraft windshield and window care and maintenance" was
exellent.
Everybody should have it and read it carefully.
Lessons to learn:
Rinse, rinse and once more rinse until all the hard particles are surely
away.
Using only a finger nail to remove bugs or helicopters is a good idea.
"Any paper is bad" is good to know.
Old gotton T-shirts are good
Also must be very carefull when using canopy covers or even avoid using
them at least during windy conditions.
By the way - maybe the gentlest, easiest and most effective way to clean
it is to fly through heavy rain...someone may think it is not the safest
way - I have noticed there may exist some surprises.
Some motorcyclists use some kind of easily changeable transparent film
to protect their helmet vizors. Obviously no optical problems. How is
that for windshield (just front of P1)?
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Borger
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely?
Raimo,
I use the stuff recommended by LP Aero Plastics, the folks who make
the windows for Europa (at least here in the U.S. anyway). Go to their
web site ( http://www.lpaero.com/ ) and click on the "Products" tab.
>From there go to the "Accessories" section. All their recommended
products are listed and available there.
I will also send a copy of their care and maintenance instructions
directly to you.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:54, Raimo Toivio wrote:
All
I have a problem - I cannot find any safe way to clean the wind
shield.
As you all know it gets very easily hair scratches.
With those scrathes it is not fun to fly against sun - I do not
wanna have them any more!
Have seen nightmares "hey I am going to replace Europa=B4s
windshield".
I have tried to rinse it with plenty of warm water and cleaning
detergents but that is not enough.
I am not brave enough to wipe it clean or touch it at all.
Insects are the main problem - as Bob and Ivor well know sometimes
during summer here in Scandinavia exists two or even more little insects
(they claimed mosquitos).
How do you do the job?
Raimo OH-XRT
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| Subject: | Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? |
Interesting you mention the "tear off's" from motor cycle visors. Nascar
(american car racing series)
now use "tear off's" on their windscreens at speeds of over 200mph. This
could be worth a look on
our A/C.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 9:14 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely?
Bob
Thanks for good advice.
As I have noticed by myself - it is not a problem to make it clean.
It is a problem to make it clean w/o same time making those invisible
scratches.
That copy "Aircraft windshield and window care and maintenance" was
exellent.
Everybody should have it and read it carefully.
Lessons to learn:
Rinse, rinse and once more rinse until all the hard particles are surely
away.
Using only a finger nail to remove bugs or helicopters is a good idea.
"Any paper is bad" is good to know.
Old gotton T-shirts are good
Also must be very carefull when using canopy covers or even avoid using
them at least during windy conditions.
By the way - maybe the gentlest, easiest and most effective way to clean
it is to fly through heavy rain...someone may think it is not the safest
way - I have noticed there may exist some surprises.
Some motorcyclists use some kind of easily changeable transparent film to
protect their helmet vizors. Obviously no optical problems. How is that for
windshield (just front of P1)?
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Borger
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely?
Raimo,
I use the stuff recommended by LP Aero Plastics, the folks who make the
windows for Europa (at least here in the U.S. anyway). Go to their web site
( http://www.lpaero.com/ ) and click on the "Products" tab. From there go
to the "Accessories" section. All their recommended products are listed and
available there.
I will also send a copy of their care and maintenance instructions
directly to you.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:54, Raimo Toivio wrote:
All
I have a problem - I cannot find any safe way to clean the wind
shield.
As you all know it gets very easily hair scratches.
With those scrathes it is not fun to fly against sun - I do not wanna
have them any more!
Have seen nightmares "hey I am going to replace Europas windshield".
I have tried to rinse it with plenty of warm water and cleaning
detergents but that is not enough.
I am not brave enough to wipe it clean or touch it at all.
Insects are the main problem - as Bob and Ivor well know sometimes
during summer here in Scandinavia exists two or even more little insects
(they claimed mosquitos).
How do you do the job?
Raimo OH-XRT
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href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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They are maybe glazed. In the operator=B4s manual is a method how to
restore them. Try it. I got a help.
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: Sidsel & Svein Johnsen
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Brake pads
The brakes on my trigear's main wheels have got lees "bite" over time.
I wonder whether it may be caused by brake fluid spilled on the pads
and discs when venting the brake lines.
I have not inspected the pads yet, but this will be done soon.
Has anyone experienced the same? What is good method to restore the
pad's friction surface - cleaning with a solvent (which?), light sanding
or both?
Regards,
Svein
LN-SKJ
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| Subject: | Re: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? |
Craig I agree - do you know the source for "tear off=B4s"?
200 mph is just good!
Size around 300 x 900 mm = 12 x 36 " would do the job and that size is
also for P2.
If you need tinted you can have.
I guess changing it once a year would be what we you need.
And no risk to spoil shield when cleaning.
One plus point maybe more: it will be a little more rigid when bird
collision happens.
Or when you drop something onto it.
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely?
Interesting you mention the "tear off's" from motor cycle visors.
Nascar (american car racing series)
now use "tear off's" on their windscreens at speeds of over 200mph.
This could be worth a look on
our A/C.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio
Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 9:14 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely?
Bob
Thanks for good advice.
As I have noticed by myself - it is not a problem to make it clean.
It is a problem to make it clean w/o same time making those
invisible scratches.
That copy "Aircraft windshield and window care and maintenance" was
exellent.
Everybody should have it and read it carefully.
Lessons to learn:
Rinse, rinse and once more rinse until all the hard particles are
surely away.
Using only a finger nail to remove bugs or helicopters is a good
idea.
"Any paper is bad" is good to know.
Old gotton T-shirts are good
Also must be very carefull when using canopy covers or even avoid
using them at least during windy conditions.
By the way - maybe the gentlest, easiest and most effective way to
clean it is to fly through heavy rain...someone may think it is not the
safest way - I have noticed there may exist some surprises.
Some motorcyclists use some kind of easily changeable transparent
film to protect their helmet vizors. Obviously no optical problems. How
is that for windshield (just front of P1)?
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Borger
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it
safely?
Raimo,
I use the stuff recommended by LP Aero Plastics, the folks who
make the windows for Europa (at least here in the U.S. anyway). Go to
their web site ( http://www.lpaero.com/ ) and click on the "Products"
tab. From there go to the "Accessories" section. All their recommended
products are listed and available there.
I will also send a copy of their care and maintenance instructions
directly to you.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:54, Raimo Toivio wrote:
All
I have a problem - I cannot find any safe way to clean the wind
shield.
As you all know it gets very easily hair scratches.
With those scrathes it is not fun to fly against sun - I do not
wanna have them any more!
Have seen nightmares "hey I am going to replace Europa=B4s
windshield".
I have tried to rinse it with plenty of warm water and cleaning
detergents but that is not enough.
I am not brave enough to wipe it clean or touch it at all.
Insects are the main problem - as Bob and Ivor well know
sometimes during summer here in Scandinavia exists two or even more
little insects (they claimed mosquitos).
How do you do the job?
Raimo OH-XRT
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Thanks, Raimo ' I=92ll check.
Svein
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] P=E5 vegne av Raimo
Toivio
Sendt: 20. april 2009 14:41
Til: europa-list@matronics.com
Emne: Re: Europa-List: Brake pads
They are maybe glazed. In the operator=B4s manual is a method how to
restore
them. Try it. I got a help.
Raimo OH-XRT
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| Subject: | Re: SV: Brake pads |
Hi Raimo
"In the operators manual is a method how to restore them."
Which page of the XS Monowheel POH has this method?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Dear Europhiles,
with bleeding hart I am thinking of selling my baby DEJWD, a classic 912 UL
(all SBs done) with 600 hours on it, analogue Engine Instrumentation,
hangared in EDLE, Germany (Ruhr Valley). This baby is thoroughly built,
flies beautiful, with a new ATR500 Com installed.
A trailer with fresh permit comes with it.
Its the time I need to invest which I do not have, which drives me to this
conclusion.
Please check the pictures under the following link, if you are interested:
http://www.planecheck.com?ent=da&id=11100
Visits and flights can be arranged, but please give me some time to react,
since I am travelling a lot.
Best Regards,
---
Frank Kusserow
45239 Essen
Germany
Tel: +49 177 40 00 028
Fax:+49 201 50 76 628
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