---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/20/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:09 AM - Re: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? (Raimo Toivio) 2. 04:54 AM - Re: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? (craig bastin) 3. 05:34 AM - Re: Brake pads (Raimo Toivio) 4. 05:34 AM - Re: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? (Raimo Toivio) 5. 07:04 AM - SV: Brake pads (Sidsel og Svein Johnsen) 6. 02:43 PM - Re: SV: Brake pads (rparigoris) 7. 11:39 PM - Sale of DEJWD (Frank Kusserow) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:09:02 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? Bob Thanks for good advice. As I have noticed by myself - it is not a problem to make it clean. It is a problem to make it clean w/o same time making those invisible scratches. That copy "Aircraft windshield and window care and maintenance" was exellent. Everybody should have it and read it carefully. Lessons to learn: Rinse, rinse and once more rinse until all the hard particles are surely away. Using only a finger nail to remove bugs or helicopters is a good idea. "Any paper is bad" is good to know. Old gotton T-shirts are good Also must be very carefull when using canopy covers or even avoid using them at least during windy conditions. By the way - maybe the gentlest, easiest and most effective way to clean it is to fly through heavy rain...someone may think it is not the safest way - I have noticed there may exist some surprises. Some motorcyclists use some kind of easily changeable transparent film to protect their helmet vizors. Obviously no optical problems. How is that for windshield (just front of P1)? Raimo OH-XRT ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Borger To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:48 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? Raimo, I use the stuff recommended by LP Aero Plastics, the folks who make the windows for Europa (at least here in the U.S. anyway). Go to their web site ( http://www.lpaero.com/ ) and click on the "Products" tab. >From there go to the "Accessories" section. All their recommended products are listed and available there. I will also send a copy of their care and maintenance instructions directly to you. Check six, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Aircraft Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:54, Raimo Toivio wrote: All I have a problem - I cannot find any safe way to clean the wind shield. As you all know it gets very easily hair scratches. With those scrathes it is not fun to fly against sun - I do not wanna have them any more! Have seen nightmares "hey I am going to replace Europa=B4s windshield". I have tried to rinse it with plenty of warm water and cleaning detergents but that is not enough. I am not brave enough to wipe it clean or touch it at all. Insects are the main problem - as Bob and Ivor well know sometimes during summer here in Scandinavia exists two or even more little insects (they claimed mosquitos). How do you do the job? Raimo OH-XRT http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:15 AM PST US From: "craig bastin" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? Interesting you mention the "tear off's" from motor cycle visors. Nascar (american car racing series) now use "tear off's" on their windscreens at speeds of over 200mph. This could be worth a look on our A/C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 9:14 PM To: europa-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? Bob Thanks for good advice. As I have noticed by myself - it is not a problem to make it clean. It is a problem to make it clean w/o same time making those invisible scratches. That copy "Aircraft windshield and window care and maintenance" was exellent. Everybody should have it and read it carefully. Lessons to learn: Rinse, rinse and once more rinse until all the hard particles are surely away. Using only a finger nail to remove bugs or helicopters is a good idea. "Any paper is bad" is good to know. Old gotton T-shirts are good Also must be very carefull when using canopy covers or even avoid using them at least during windy conditions. By the way - maybe the gentlest, easiest and most effective way to clean it is to fly through heavy rain...someone may think it is not the safest way - I have noticed there may exist some surprises. Some motorcyclists use some kind of easily changeable transparent film to protect their helmet vizors. Obviously no optical problems. How is that for windshield (just front of P1)? Raimo OH-XRT ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Borger To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:48 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? Raimo, I use the stuff recommended by LP Aero Plastics, the folks who make the windows for Europa (at least here in the U.S. anyway). Go to their web site ( http://www.lpaero.com/ ) and click on the "Products" tab. From there go to the "Accessories" section. All their recommended products are listed and available there. I will also send a copy of their care and maintenance instructions directly to you. Check six, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Aircraft Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:54, Raimo Toivio wrote: All I have a problem - I cannot find any safe way to clean the wind shield. As you all know it gets very easily hair scratches. With those scrathes it is not fun to fly against sun - I do not wanna have them any more! Have seen nightmares "hey I am going to replace Europas windshield". I have tried to rinse it with plenty of warm water and cleaning detergents but that is not enough. I am not brave enough to wipe it clean or touch it at all. Insects are the main problem - as Bob and Ivor well know sometimes during summer here in Scandinavia exists two or even more little insects (they claimed mosquitos). How do you do the job? Raimo OH-XRT http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contri bution ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:09 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Brake pads They are maybe glazed. In the operator=B4s manual is a method how to restore them. Try it. I got a help. Raimo OH-XRT ----- Original Message ----- From: Sidsel & Svein Johnsen To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Europa-List: Brake pads The brakes on my trigear's main wheels have got lees "bite" over time. I wonder whether it may be caused by brake fluid spilled on the pads and discs when venting the brake lines. I have not inspected the pads yet, but this will be done soon. Has anyone experienced the same? What is good method to restore the pad's friction surface - cleaning with a solvent (which?), light sanding or both? Regards, Svein LN-SKJ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:09 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? Craig I agree - do you know the source for "tear off=B4s"? 200 mph is just good! Size around 300 x 900 mm = 12 x 36 " would do the job and that size is also for P2. If you need tinted you can have. I guess changing it once a year would be what we you need. And no risk to spoil shield when cleaning. One plus point maybe more: it will be a little more rigid when bird collision happens. Or when you drop something onto it. Raimo OH-XRT ----- Original Message ----- From: craig bastin To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 2:52 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? Interesting you mention the "tear off's" from motor cycle visors. Nascar (american car racing series) now use "tear off's" on their windscreens at speeds of over 200mph. This could be worth a look on our A/C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio Sent: Monday, 20 April 2009 9:14 PM To: europa-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? Bob Thanks for good advice. As I have noticed by myself - it is not a problem to make it clean. It is a problem to make it clean w/o same time making those invisible scratches. That copy "Aircraft windshield and window care and maintenance" was exellent. Everybody should have it and read it carefully. Lessons to learn: Rinse, rinse and once more rinse until all the hard particles are surely away. Using only a finger nail to remove bugs or helicopters is a good idea. "Any paper is bad" is good to know. Old gotton T-shirts are good Also must be very carefull when using canopy covers or even avoid using them at least during windy conditions. By the way - maybe the gentlest, easiest and most effective way to clean it is to fly through heavy rain...someone may think it is not the safest way - I have noticed there may exist some surprises. Some motorcyclists use some kind of easily changeable transparent film to protect their helmet vizors. Obviously no optical problems. How is that for windshield (just front of P1)? Raimo OH-XRT ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Borger To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 1:48 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cleaning windshield - how to do it safely? Raimo, I use the stuff recommended by LP Aero Plastics, the folks who make the windows for Europa (at least here in the U.S. anyway). Go to their web site ( http://www.lpaero.com/ ) and click on the "Products" tab. From there go to the "Accessories" section. All their recommended products are listed and available there. I will also send a copy of their care and maintenance instructions directly to you. Check six, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Aircraft Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:54, Raimo Toivio wrote: All I have a problem - I cannot find any safe way to clean the wind shield. As you all know it gets very easily hair scratches. With those scrathes it is not fun to fly against sun - I do not wanna have them any more! Have seen nightmares "hey I am going to replace Europa=B4s windshield". I have tried to rinse it with plenty of warm water and cleaning detergents but that is not enough. I am not brave enough to wipe it clean or touch it at all. Insects are the main problem - as Bob and Ivor well know sometimes during summer here in Scandinavia exists two or even more little insects (they claimed mosquitos). How do you do the job? Raimo OH-XRT http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matron href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:21 AM PST US From: "Sidsel og Svein Johnsen" Subject: SV: Europa-List: Brake pads Thanks, Raimo ' I=92ll check. Svein Do not archive _____ Fra: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] P=E5 vegne av Raimo Toivio Sendt: 20. april 2009 14:41 Til: europa-list@matronics.com Emne: Re: Europa-List: Brake pads They are maybe glazed. In the operator=B4s manual is a method how to restore them. Try it. I got a help. Raimo OH-XRT ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:46 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: SV: Brake pads From: "rparigoris" Hi Raimo "In the operators manual is a method how to restore them." Which page of the XS Monowheel POH has this method? Thx. Ron Parigoris Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:39:03 PM PST US From: "Frank Kusserow" Subject: Europa-List: Sale of DEJWD Dear Europhiles, with bleeding hart I am thinking of selling my baby DEJWD, a classic 912 UL (all SBs done) with 600 hours on it, analogue Engine Instrumentation, hangared in EDLE, Germany (Ruhr Valley). This baby is thoroughly built, flies beautiful, with a new ATR500 Com installed. A trailer with fresh permit comes with it. Its the time I need to invest which I do not have, which drives me to this conclusion. Please check the pictures under the following link, if you are interested: http://www.planecheck.com?ent=da&id=11100 Visits and flights can be arranged, but please give me some time to react, since I am travelling a lot. 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