Europa-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/08/09


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:23 AM - Re: Fuel System Vents (flyingphil2)
     2. 05:09 AM - Re: Noisy Europa (Kingsley Hurst)
     3. 06:40 AM - Rough River 2009 (Erich Trombley)
     4. 07:29 AM - Windsheild Question? (Jeffrey J Paris)
     5. 08:02 AM - Re: Windshield Question? (Christoph Both)
     6. 08:39 AM - Re: Windshield Question? (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
     7. 09:15 AM - Re: Windsheild Question? (G-IANI)
     8. 09:15 AM - Re: Rough River 2009 (Jeff B)
     9. 02:36 PM - Re: First engine run; what is normal? (Frans Veldman)
    10. 03:12 PM - Re: Rough River 2009 (Paul McAllister)
    11. 03:18 PM - Re: Rough River 2009 (sldpileit@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:23:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel System Vents
    From: "flyingphil2" <ptiller@lolacars.com>
    Thanks Chaps, I'll have a think about that and decide whether to mount them underneath. I was planning on doing a Hi-top mod which may make this problem worse and so a lower mounting may be better. Phil Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org


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    Time: 05:09:29 AM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@redzone.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Noisy Europa
    Duncan, In the C172 I once owned, I made the vents much quieter by stuffing some steel wool into the duct. Steel is a misnomer because it was actually the plastic stuff. Best regards Kingsley ----- Original Message ----- From: Duncan & Ami McFadyean To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:18 AM Subject: Europa-List: Noisy Europa Whilst grateful for the general quietness of the Europa, inside and out, the cabin NACA vents and associated 'eyeball' contribute substantially to cabin noise. If during flight the vent is temporarily blocked with ,say, a finger, the reduction in overall noise (possibly including some external engine noise coming through the vent) is noticeable. Same thing can be experienced on an airliner. Does anyone have any advice as to how these vents can be quietened? Duncan McF.


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    Time: 06:40:46 AM PST US
    From: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
    Subject: Rough River 2009
    While I have asked this question previously I don't recall receiving a definitive answer. Have the dates of the 2009 Rough River Fly-In been set? If so, when is the event scheduled. I would love to attend this year, however, my calendar for September is starting to fill up. If I recall correctly it is this month in which the fly-in is held. Please advice. Kind regards, Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Learning Centers - Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsIpv4oDJwmbA7BRaxMU0xBYiDs5wjIEdC1mI9hYx48NSxQZwLtpDa/


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    Time: 07:29:47 AM PST US
    From: "Jeffrey J Paris" <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
    Subject: Windsheild Question?
    Dear Europaphiles, Has anyone made their windsheilds serviceable by making them removeable? I know the direction call for bonding them in, however, I would like to explor e if anyone has gone in this direction. Sincerely, Jeff Paris Kit #A012 Classicic Monowheel. ------------------------------------------------------------ Security Camera Free information - Learn about Security Cameras. Click now! http://tagline.excite.com/fc/FgElN1gwe6GbtjYULywYJsAmlRLAKmkCA5tm8ZcmVsCNx1N umxfyDf4BGrm/


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    Time: 08:02:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Windshield Question?
    From: "Christoph Both" <christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
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    Time: 08:39:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Windshield Question?
    From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
    Hi Jeffery I havn't heard of having a removable windshield, but someone used small screws to hold in position while bonding and think left them there. Aslight off topic question from original question, does anyone layup perhaps some thin model aeroplane cloth or perhaps 1 BID over plexiglass seam to help prevent any cracking? Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 09:15:45 AM PST US
    From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Windsheild Question?
    I have removed a windscreen (when doing the High top - low cowl mod). By the careful application of a heat gun to the edge of the screen the 420 can be convinced to let go. You can then slide a putty knife between the screen and the frame. You can do this without damaging damaging the surrounding composite but you may need a heat shield (plumber's asbestos mat) to protect the composite in some places. We did break the old screen by being a bit ham fisted at first but most of it came out in one piece. Once the screen was removed any remaining 420 was siftened with heat and scraped from the frame. Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com


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    Time: 09:15:46 AM PST US
    From: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Rough River 2009
    Erich, Sept. 11-13, unless Paul has made some changes I don't know about... Hope to see you there... Jeff - Baby Blue Erich Trombley wrote: > > While I have asked this question previously I don't recall receiving a definitive answer. Have the dates of the 2009 Rough River Fly-In been set? If so, when is the event scheduled. I would love to attend this year, however, my calendar for September is starting to fill up. If I recall correctly it is this month in which the fly-in is held. Please advice. > > Kind regards, > Erich Trombley > N28ET Classic Mono 914 > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Learning Centers - Click Here. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsIpv4oDJwmbA7BRaxMU0xBYiDs5wjIEdC1mI9hYx48NSxQZwLtpDa/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >


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    Time: 02:36:18 PM PST US
    From: Frans Veldman <frans@paardnatuurlijk.nl>
    Subject: Re: First engine run; what is normal?
    Hi Paul & All, Paul McAllister wrote: > Regarding the factory run in, I seem to recall that when I checked the log > in the TCU it had nearly 5 hours on it, and something like 30 minutes in > boost, I just scrambled together a DOS-capable computer and got the TCU connected. My 914 has had only 49 minutes at the factory... I also checked the readings of the TCU, and I noticed that the airbox temp reading was 10 degrees Celcius higher than the real temperature. This was without the engine running, and completely cooled down (not started for more than a week). I guess this airbox-temperature thing is only used for lowering the boost pressue if the airbox gets to the critical temp of about 70-80 degrees Celcius, so I assume this is nothing to worry about, especially not because I have an intercooler and do noet expect such high airbox temperatures. -- Frans Veldman


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    Time: 03:12:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rough River 2009
    From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
    Nope, no changes by me, but its probably time to start publicizing this again... Jeff I'll give you a call latter this week. - Paul On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Jeff B <topglock@cox.net> wrote: > > > > Erich, > > Sept. 11-13, unless Paul has made some changes I don't know about... > > Hope to see you there... > > Jeff - Baby Blue > > Erich Trombley wrote: > >> erichdtrombley@juno.com> >> >> While I have asked this question previously I don't recall receiving a >> definitive answer. Have the dates of the 2009 Rough River Fly-In been set? >> If so, when is the event scheduled. I would love to attend this year, >> however, my calendar for September is starting to fill up. If I recall >> correctly it is this month in which the fly-in is held. Please advice. >> >> Kind regards, >> Erich Trombley >> N28ET Classic Mono 914 >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Learning Centers - Click Here. >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsIpv4oDJwmbA7BRaxMU0xBYiDs5wjIEdC1mI9hYx48NSxQZwLtpDa/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > >


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    Time: 03:18:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rough River 2009
    From: sldpileit@aol.com
    Hi Erich, ????? I'm not sure when it is, but Corky and I are looking forward to it.? We attended last year and had a great time meeting everyone. Not sure who puts it together, but I'll let you know?if I here anything.? By the way I bought a Spacewalker ll from David Martin out in OR. He is going to bring it to Ohio by truck the first week of Sept.? Maybe I'll be able to bring it to rough river. It's a lot slower flyer than my europa.? Hope to see you in KY. Scott and Corky Dingman. N108EA??????????????? -----Original Message----- From: Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com> Sent: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 9:30 am Subject: Europa-List: Rough River 2009 While I have asked this question previously I don't recall receiving a definitive answer. Have the dates of the 2009 Rough River Fly-In been set? If so, when is the event scheduled. I would love to attend this year, however, my calendar for September is starting to fill up. If I recall correctly it is this month in which the fly-in is held. Please advice. Kind regards, Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Learning Centers - Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsIpv4oDJwmbA7BRaxMU0xBYiDs5wjIEdC1mI9hYx48NSxQZwLtpDa/




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