---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/21/09: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:51 AM - Re: Gas strut end sockets (Frans Veldman) 2. 04:58 AM - Re: Gas strut end sockets (C Richardson) 3. 07:25 AM - Re: Gas strut end sockets (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 4. 07:25 AM - Re: Gas strut end sockets (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 5. 11:22 AM - LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions (danbish) 6. 11:52 AM - Re: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions (Rowland Carson) 7. 12:14 PM - Re: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions (danbish) 8. 04:50 PM - Re: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions (ofamerica.com YERLY) 9. 06:12 PM - Re: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions (Lance Sandford) 10. 07:32 PM - Re: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions (danbish) 11. 11:05 PM - Re: Gas strut end sockets (danbish) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:03 AM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas strut end sockets Jim, > I just installed them and they will not come off the ball no matter > what I try. There is a small clip on them that appears to hold the > fixture to the ball, but it still won't come off the ball when you > remove it. They will probably fix your problem. Are you talking about the metal end sockets, or the plastic ones? The plastic ones I received with my kit were never strong to begin with, but time and heat have deformed them enough to allow the ball to pop out without any effort. If the new plastic ones have a clip then that would suit my needs too, otherwise I will just go for the metal ones. -- Frans Veldman ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:24 AM PST US From: "C Richardson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas strut end sockets Frans, Yoy may find that the metal ones do not fit onto the "old" type of gas strut. I had this problem having bought metal ball ends. I eventually used a small piece of locking wire, twisted around the plastic socket end and the ball, which prevents the ball and socket from disengaging. My "old" struts and balls are still in use and working fine with this fix. Regards John G-BXGG No 178 now a tri-gear. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frans Veldman" Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas strut end sockets > > > Jim, > >> I just installed them and they will not come off the ball no matter >> what I try. There is a small clip on them that appears to hold the >> fixture to the ball, but it still won't come off the ball when you >> remove it. They will probably fix your problem. > > Are you talking about the metal end sockets, or the plastic ones? The > plastic ones I received with my kit were never strong to begin with, but > time and heat have deformed them enough to allow the ball to pop out > without any effort. > If the new plastic ones have a clip then that would suit my needs too, > otherwise I will just go for the metal ones. > > -- > Frans Veldman > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:35 AM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas strut end sockets Franz- I am talking about the metal sockets and balls. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frans Veldman" Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:46:20 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas strut end sockets Jim, > I just installed them and they will not come off the ball no matter > what I try. =C2-There is a small clip on them that appears to hold the > fixture to the ball, but it still won't come off the ball when you > remove it. =C2-They will probably fix your problem. Are you talking about the metal end sockets, or the plastic ones? The plastic ones I received with my kit were never strong to begin with, but time and heat have deformed them enough to allow the ball to pop out without any effort. If the new plastic ones have a clip then that would suit my needs too, otherwise I will just go for the metal ones. -- Frans Veldman =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:36 AM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas strut end sockets Frans- The metal ends were delivered with new balls also.=C2-Everything from whe re they screw into the gas struts was replaced, so you are replacing the en d and stud. Jim=C2-Puglise ----- Original Message ----- From: "C Richardson" Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:56:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas strut end sockets t> Frans, Yoy may find that the metal ones do not fit onto the "old" type of gas strut. I had this problem having bought metal ball ends. I eventually used a small piece of locking wire, twisted around the plastic socket end and the ball, which prevents the ball and socket from disengaging. My "old" struts and balls are still in use and working fine with this fix. Regards John G-BXGG No 178 now a tri-gear. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frans Veldman" Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas strut end sockets > > > Jim, > >> I just installed them and they will not come off the ball no matter >> what I try. =C2-There is a small clip on them that appears to hold the >> fixture to the ball, but it still won't come off the ball when you >> remove it. =C2-They will probably fix your problem. > > Are you talking about the metal end sockets, or the plastic ones? The > plastic ones I received with my kit were never strong to begin with, but > time and heat have deformed them enough to allow the ball to pop out > without any effort. > If the new plastic ones have a clip then that would suit my needs too, > otherwise I will just go for the metal ones. > > -- > Frans Veldman > > > > > =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:23 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions From: "danbish" Hi All, I see in the manual that you're supposed to replace the existing handle on the monowheel brake with a LG13, which didn't find its way into my kit. Anyone know the dimensions of this item? Thanks, Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:45 AM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions At 2009-06-21 21:14 +0300 danbish wrote: >you're supposed to replace the existing handle on the monowheel >brake with a LG13, which didn't find its way into my kit. Anyone >know the dimensions of this item Dan - the crucial dimensions are at the bottom end, where you need to make the hole sizes, and their relationships to the edges and end of the lever, the same as the original short supplied lever. The top end can be (within reason) as long as you like, to get a good grip on it. Don't make the lower handle-securing hole so low that it fouls the top of the tunnel. I can't get at mine easily to measure it as it's attached to the reservoir, and hidden inside a turned mahogany handle (which also extends it slightly). Attached is a picture of the new lever before the handle was fitted to it. Sorry, I don't seem to have a picture of both levers for comparison. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson LAA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/ | 1280 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions From: "danbish" Hi Rowland, This looks like I imagined it. The original is 7" so if I add about 4" I'm sure to be good. Thanks for taking time to reply. All the best, Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:09 PM PST US From: "ofamerica.com YERLY" Subject: Re: Europa-List: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions Dan, I think I have a spare LG13 from a conversion, although I usually make my own. I'll look. Let me know if you are interested. Pay for postage. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: danbish To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:14 PM Subject: Europa-List: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions > Hi All, I see in the manual that you're supposed to replace the existing handle on the monowheel brake with a LG13, which didn't find its way into my kit. Anyone know the dimensions of this item? Thanks, Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:33 PM PST US From: Lance Sandford Subject: Re: Europa-List: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions Dan The original LG13 lever is 6 7/8 x 3/4 (175mm x 19mm). Regards Lance Sandford in Oz > Hi All, > > I see in the manual that you're supposed to replace the existing handle on the monowheel brake with a LG13, which didn't find its way into my kit. Anyone know the dimensions of this item? > > Thanks, > > Dan > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: LG13 Brake Lever Dimensions From: "danbish" Thanks all for the responses. I found some stock laying around and made one up. Works great and I was able to continue with the brake install without stopping. Made for a nice father's day, beatin' things into shape. Thanks again, Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:05:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas strut end sockets From: "danbish" Just looked, I have the plastic ones. Is Europa replacing them with metal ones? 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