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1. 12:58 AM - Re: What This Loctite For? (Frans Veldman)
2. 01:10 AM - Re: What This Loctite For? (Ian Sweetland)
3. 01:54 AM - Re: What This Loctite For? (bmoorhouse)
4. 02:43 AM - Flying to Norway (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
5. 03:14 AM - Re: Flying to Norway (David Joyce)
6. 04:14 AM - Re: Woodcomp Propellers (josok)
7. 04:56 AM - Re: Bubbling Paint (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
8. 05:20 AM - Re: Door fit (Lance Sandford)
9. 06:37 AM - Re: G-SAMY (Robert C Harrison)
10. 07:10 AM - Paint (Jim Naylor)
11. 09:44 AM - Re: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE (A B Milne)
12. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: Bubbling Paint (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
13. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: Bubbling Paint (Karl Heindl)
14. 01:42 PM - SV: Door fit (Alex e Debora)
15. 02:24 PM - test message (Rowland Carson)
16. 02:27 PM - Re: SV: Door fit (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
17. 03:15 PM - Re: Flying to Norway (K BURNS)
18. 04:04 PM - Re: SV: Door fit (Graham Singleton)
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Subject: | Re: What This Loctite For? |
On Tuesday 07 July 2009 04:21:54 am Troy Maynor wrote:
> I hesitate to bring it up but I'd like to know. I have this 5ml bottle
of
> Loctite 648 with only German language on it. I can't remember
where I used
> it, or if I have still to use it on something important.
It is used for the flap drive bearing ends.
Frans
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Subject: | What This Loctite For? |
have a look at
http://www.loctite.sg/sea/content_data/93769_Loctite_648_Retaining_Compou
nd.
pdf
it is for securing cylindrical components such as gears to shafts.
Ian
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Troy Maynor
Sent: 07 July 2009 03:22
Subject: Europa-List: What This Loctite For?
Hi All,
I hesitate to bring it up but I'd like to know. I have this 5ml bottle
of
Loctite 648 with only German language on it. I can't remember where I
used
it, or if I have still to use it on something important. There's nothing
on
my punch list other than service bulletin 15 which uses Loctite, and
that's
Loctite 603. Could it be for the elbows on the water pump that I had to
change out. Just wondering around in the fog....
Troy Maynor
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Subject: | Re: What This Loctite For? |
[quote="Troy Maynor"]Hi All,
I hesitate to bring it up but I'd like to know. I have this 5ml bottle of Loctite
648 with only German language on it. I can't remember where I used it, or
if I have still to use it on something important. There's nothing on my punch
list other than service bulletin 15 which uses Loctite, and that's Loctite
603. Could it be for the elbows on the water pump that I had to change out.
Just wondering around in the fog....
Troy Maynor
> [b]
I think it may be the Loctite for the nose leg hub assembly on the tri-gear - for
bonding the bearing inner races to the alloy shaft
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Barry Moorhouse
G-JHYS Trigear XS
Rotax 914 UL
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Subject: | Flying to Norway |
David Joyce's excellent information pamphlet titled "Flying from UK into
Europe" contains a list of countries not requiring prior permission for
Class A Permit aircraft, as well as a list of countries - including Norway -
believed to require prior permission.
I am pleased to inform anyone contemplating a flight to our country that
Norway does not require prior permission for homebuilt aircraft flying under
a valid "permit to fly" issued by another ECAC member state. See "VFR-guide
2009" (written in English) for more details on this (p. 33) and a host of
other useful information for VFR flying in Norway, at
http://www.luftfartstilsynet.no/multimedia/archive/00006/VFR-guide_for_Norwa
y__6222a.pdf
The simplified customs and immigration clearance procedure for light
certified aircraft between Norway and another Schengen country described on
page 31 applies also for homebuilt aircraft (confirmed to me by customs
today). The flight plan copy required by customs under this simplified
procedure may be sent by fax as stated in the guide, or by e-mail to
desken@toll.no
Regards,
Svein K. Johnsen
LN-SKJ
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Subject: | Re: Flying to Norway |
Svein, Many thanks. delighted to hear it. I will modify the section and also
let the LAA know. David Joyce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Flying to Norway
> David Joyce's excellent information pamphlet titled "Flying from UK into
> Europe" contains a list of countries not requiring prior permission for
> Class A Permit aircraft, as well as a list of countries - including
> Norway -
> believed to require prior permission.
>
>
> I am pleased to inform anyone contemplating a flight to our country that
> Norway does not require prior permission for homebuilt aircraft flying
> under
> a valid "permit to fly" issued by another ECAC member state. See
> "VFR-guide
> 2009" (written in English) for more details on this (p. 33) and a host of
> other useful information for VFR flying in Norway, at
>
>
> http://www.luftfartstilsynet.no/multimedia/archive/00006/VFR-guide_for_Norwa
> y__6222a.pdf
>
>
> The simplified customs and immigration clearance procedure for light
> certified aircraft between Norway and another Schengen country described
> on
> page 31 applies also for homebuilt aircraft (confirmed to me by customs
> today). The flight plan copy required by customs under this simplified
> procedure may be sent by fax as stated in the guide, or by e-mail to
> desken@toll.no
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Svein K. Johnsen
>
> LN-SKJ
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Woodcomp Propellers |
After a long time being very quite i called the investigator today, since i had
not heard anything. He has finished the report a long time ago, and forwarded
it to his peer: The investigation court. Now he promised to ask the judge for
permission to forward the report to me. Strange habits, especially if you think
of flight safety. So in a few days i hope to be able to publish the report
here.
Netherthelesss some facts came up allready: The cause of the accident could not
be determined without reasonable doubt. The pitch motor was fully blocked, but
damage caused by impact and fire could not be excluded. The blade pitch was
0, not negative. The parts are still there, and it looks that i may have a look
on my planned visit to Austria this Autumn.
I have been looking with awe to the pichture of the "mechanical stops" What i see
is a slot, same as a blade i have.
It is very clear from the picture that there is damage in the BOTTOM of the slot,
not on the end. Same on the blade here. This can only be caused by the end
stop bolt, scraping over the bottom of the slot. It seems very possible that in
my case, under high centrifugal force, this caused the blade to lock, motor
to burn, and the rest of the story is history.
Kind Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: Bubbling Paint |
In a message dated 7/7/2009 3:02:36 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
europa-list@matronics.com writes:
To date, I have had absolutely no issues with paint
bubbling but I am concerned that keeping it outside in very wet
conditions under a non-breathable cover may cause problems.
Hey Paddy,
For what it's worth, we see paint bubbling on glider fuselage belly's with
both urethane and gel coat finishes occasionally. This is almost always
caused by owners putting the glider in the trailer with the trailer fuselage
support cradle padding wet. This usually happens when the owner is forced
to put the glider away in a hurry due to a sudden rain storm. The padding
gets rain soaked before the glider can be put away in the dry. If the owner
doesn't take the glider out within a few days and let the padding dry out
the paint or gel coat will bubble. The cradle padding used on Cobra glider
trailers is similar to short pile carpeting.
We had an ASW-27 come through the shop a couple of months ago with this
exact issue and wet padding on the fuselage cradle was the obvious cause. The
cradle padding was still wet when we pulled it out of the trailer and the
bubbled surface on the belly matched the profile of the padding exactly.
According to the glider's owner the fuselage had been sitting on the wet
padding for about two weeks. The remedy was to sand out the bubbling with 320,
reshoot it, color sand with 600, 800, and 1200, then buff. A good coat of
high quality Carnuba wax on your finished surfaces would probably help
prevent bubbling. Probably wouldn't eliminate it, but it would help the finish
shed water.
Regards,
John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying
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John
I adjusted the door curve as I was doing the wide body mod.
After removing the required section of inside skin, the frame is very
flexible and can be held at the desired curve while fitting the new
inside moulding.
Regards
Lance Sandford in OZ
John Cliff wrote:
>
> One of my doors bows out proud of the fuselage along its lower edge,
> evidently the door frame is too curved along the bottom.
>
> Has anyone else encountered this and tried remodelling the frame
> (perspex not in yet) with gentle heat ?
>
> Or any other ideas ?
>
> John Cliff
> #0259
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Hi! Paul Vallis
Congratulations on the first flight of G-SAMY.
So sorry I didn't pass my message earlier ..I was out enjoying our
Iberian Trip, suffering high temperatures as you have been in the UK ,
suffering the unbearable Spanish bureaucracy insisting on VAT numbers
even for cash payments, what mutton heads they are. Never the less you
will get to enjoy such trips earlier through the auspices of the Europa
Club tours.
BFN
Reports and photo's to follow .
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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After some 13 years service and recent mods. our Europa is in need of
some cosmetic work.
Does anyone have some of the original paint and hardener that Europa
used to supply, that they would be willing to part with.
It had the code C21/100 UVR on the paint, S66/22R on the hardener and
C25/905 on the thinners.
I would more than happy to pay the going rate for it if anyone can help.
Regards
Jim Naylor
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Subject: | Re: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE |
Dear Bryan,
Glad to hear from you. Please book me in on the LotSW.
Off on the Tour de France on Saturday. Willie H has pulled out so the
remaining tourists are off for a wander against the vaguest. We intend
to meet in Cherbourg and then tour anticlock this year cf clockwise last
year starting with a beach resort on the West edge. Should be great.
See and have good flying.
Yours
Alasdair
----- Original Message -----
From: Bryan Allsop
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 9:17 PM
Subject: Europa-List: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE
Hi Europals,
This is just an early reminder that the LOTSW trip intends to take off
on the 8th of September, returning on the 13th.
This informal trip is normally motivated be the seeking out of decent
weather for a bit of flying in France, together with the enjoyment of
good food, and company.
Last year the LOTSW was very popular, and was heavily subscribed. If
you want to make sure of a place please make early arrangements. Also,
if you have any suggestions for destinations please let us know.
For contact please use bryanallsop@hotmail.com
Regards to all.
Bryan allsop and Bob Hitchcock
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Subject: | Re: Bubbling Paint |
Thanks John for insight
" For what it's worth, we see
paint bubbling on glider fuselage belly's with both urethane and gel
coat finishes occasionally. This is almost alwayscaused by owners
putting the glider in the trailer with the trailer fuselagesupport
cradle padding wet. This usually happens when the owner is forced to put
the glider away in a hurry due to a sudden rain storm. The padding gets
rain soaked before the glider can be put away in the dry. If the
owner doesn't take the glider out within a few days and let the
padding dry outthe paint or gel coat will bubble."
Has anyone had paint bubble on wings or fuse from letting plane live on
Factory open monowheel trailer after it got stuck in rain and didn't dry
it?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Re: Bubbling Paint |
Ron=2C
I've had my Europa sitting in the rain and sun for many months and the pain
t is not bubblng. I guess it is only a problem when there is moisture with
no ventilation.
Why should it be a problem ? There are hundreds of thousands of airplanes s
itting in the open without paint problems. And there are millions of cars
permanently outdoors for many years=2C and their paint is usually one-part
with a two-part clear coat.
Karl
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Bubbling Paint
From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
Thanks John for insight
" For what it's worth=2C we see paint bubbling on glider fuselage belly's
with both urethane and gel coat finishes occasionally. This is almost alway
s caused by owners putting the glider in the trailer with the trailer fusel
age support cradle padding wet. This usually happens when the owner is forc
ed to put the glider away in a hurry due to a sudden rain storm. The paddin
g gets rain soaked before the glider can be put away in the dry. If the own
er doesn't take the glider out within a few days and let the padding dry o
ut the paint or gel coat will bubble."
Has anyone had paint bubble on wings or fuse from letting plane live on Fac
tory open monowheel trailer after it got stuck in rain and didn't dry it?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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One solution that has been presented here a long time ago, I liked for its
simplicity and added safety.
Somebody had simply put an overcentering hook on the door sill, which after
closing the door would be engaged on a small ridge on the door, or vice
versa.
Lightweight, easy to do and it provides a very good second locking of the
door preventing the door from opening in flight, should the standard locking
mechanism fail.
Alex
#529
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] P vegne af John Cliff
Sendt: 6. juli 2009 18:23
Til: europa-list@matronics.com
Emne: Europa-List: Door fit
One of my doors bows out proud of the fuselage along its lower edge,
evidently the door frame is too curved along the bottom.
Has anyone else encountered this and tried remodelling the frame
(perspex not in yet) with gentle heat ?
Or any other ideas ?
John Cliff
#0259
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John-
I just installed my doors and latches last week but when I look at the door
, it appears that it would be quite easy to add a flange extending down an
inch or so right in the middle of the door frame, aft of the latch guard.
=C2- At this point, the inside of the door frame is a bout 1/8 proud of t
he fuselage, just enough space for a piece of weather seal.=C2- This woul
d be very simple to do.=C2-
Jim Puglise A-283
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From: "Alex e Debora" <kaarsberg@terra.com.br>
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 4:33:15 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: SV: Europa-List: Door fit
One solution that has been presented here a long time ago, I liked for it
=C2=B4s
simplicity and added safety.
Somebody had simply put an overcentering hook on the door sill, which after
closing the door would be engaged on a small ridge on the door, or vice
versa.
Lightweight, easy to do and it provides a very good second locking of the
door preventing the door from opening in flight, should the standard lockin
g
mechanism fail.
Alex
#529
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] P=C3=A5 vegne af John Cliff
Sendt: 6. juli 2009 18:23
Til: europa-list@matronics.com
Emne: Europa-List: Door fit
One of my doors bows out proud of the fuselage along its lower edge,
evidently the door frame is too curved along the bottom.
Has anyone else encountered this and tried remodelling the frame
(perspex not in yet) with gentle heat ?
Or any other ideas ?
John Cliff
#0259
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Subject: | Re: Flying to Norway |
Thank you for the usefull guide to Sidsel & Svein Johnsen,it makes interesting
reading, I would sugest a change in the priority given in the survival kit and
sugest the survival suit be moved to the top of the list because in the winter
if you go in the water without, you will be gone in under 5 min, even nr the
Channel islands two winters ago two guys could not make the life raft due to
the cold,only one guy survived and the air sea rescue was on the scene within
30 min, also consider plastic baging mobile phones, and or a spare hand held radio
inside your flotation suit..the ex RAF suits I have are 500 new and were
unused spares,,bought 35..Remember your options most of the time if you have an
engine failure will be into the trees (with rocks /mountains) or in to the water
which is very deep even nr the shoreline,remember to unlock your door/canopy
if you need to ditch.
Some of the most memorable flying I have done so far is from Norge to the UK over
Christmas 2007.
(In a motorglider some times into 20knt headwinds G/S slower than wagons below)!
Kevin.
--- On Tue, 7/7/09, Sidsel & Svein Johnsen <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no> wrote:
> From: Sidsel & Svein Johnsen <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
> Subject: Europa-List: Flying to Norway
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, 7 July, 2009, 10:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> David Joyces
> excellent information pamphlet
> titled Flying from UK into Europe contains a
> list of countries not
> requiring prior permission for Class A Permit aircraft, as
> well as a list of
> countries including Norway - believed to require
> prior permission.
>
>
>
> I am pleased to
> inform anyone contemplating
> a flight to our country that Norway does not require prior
> permission for
> homebuilt aircraft flying under a valid permit to
> fly issued by another
> ECAC member state. See VFR-guide 2009
> (written in English) for
> more details on this (p. 33) and a host of other useful
> information for VFR
> flying in Norway, at
>
>
>
> http://www.luftfartstilsynet.no/multimedia/archive/00006/VFR-guide_for_Norway__6222a.pdf
>
>
>
>
> The simplified
> customs and immigration clearance
> procedure for light certified aircraft between Norway and
> another Schengen
> country described on page 31 applies also for homebuilt
> aircraft (confirmed to
> me by customs today). The flight plan copy
> required by customs under
> this simplified procedure may be sent by fax as stated in
> the guide, or by
> e-mail to desken@toll.no
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Svein K.
> Johnsen
>
> LN-SKJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Alex e Debora wrote:
>
> One solution that has been presented here a long time ago, I liked for its
> simplicity and added safety.
>
> Somebody had simply put an overcentering hook on the door sill, which after
> closing the door would be engaged on a small ridge on the door, or vice
> versa.
>
> Lightweight, easy to do and it provides a very good second locking of the
> door preventing the door from opening in flight, should the standard locking
> mechanism fail.
>
> Alex
Alex
that's what I was trying to describe, Mal McLure's solution. There's
enough spring in the doors to allow easy latching and when the shoot
bolts are in it is locked. I have seen doors flex and suck out my shirt
sleeve when fresh air vents were opened
Graham
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