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1. 01:05 AM - Re: Landing Gear Frame (Pete Lawless)
2. 01:57 AM - FW: U/C frame (Peter Jeffers)
3. 04:40 AM - synchonising carbs (Herve Chaussures)
4. 06:43 AM - Re: 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 (david miller)
5. 07:01 AM - Re: 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 (Paul McAllister)
6. 07:24 AM - Re: Landing Gear Frame (Bud Yerly)
7. 07:43 AM - Re: Gearbox removal tool (Jeff B)
8. 09:45 AM - Re: Gearbox removal tool (Peter Jeffers)
9. 09:46 AM - Re: Gearbox removal tool (Jerry Rehn)
10. 09:48 AM - Re: Gearbox removal tool (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
11. 09:48 AM - Re: Gearbox removal tool (Paul McAllister)
12. 10:16 AM - Re: Gearbox removal tool (Bob Borger)
13. 10:19 AM - Re: Gearbox removal tool (Peter Rees)
14. 11:18 AM - Re: synchonising carbs (G-IANI)
15. 11:24 AM - Re: 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 (danbish)
16. 12:24 PM - DOTH anyone? (Bryan Allsop)
17. 12:53 PM - Re: DOTH anyone? (R Holder)
18. 01:27 PM - Re: DOTH anyone? (David Watts)
19. 01:49 PM - Re: DOTH anyone? (Bob Hitchcock)
20. 02:39 PM - Re: DOTH anyone? (William Harrison)
21. 03:23 PM - Re: DOTH anyone? (Bob Hitchcock)
22. 04:22 PM - Re: Gearbox removal tool (Jeff B)
23. 09:51 PM - Re: 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 (Greg Fuchs)
24. 11:21 PM - Re: 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 (mau11@free.fr)
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| Subject: | Landing Gear Frame |
Hi Robert
The 2 extra bits of frame, one either side, were an early mod and
should
have been welded in place. I did hear that some builders who had
already
installed the frame in the fuselage used Redux to fit the extra
supports.
If yours have been Reduxed then heating with a hot air gun or small gas
torch will soften the glue and allow removal.
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Hatton
Sent: 20 August 2009 01:54
Subject: Europa-List: Landing Gear Frame
I am checking over the landing gear after a heavy landing and one of
the
supports in the Landing Gear Frame appears to have a slight and small
crack.
Although it still attached to the frame. It does not seem to have been
welded (but I could be wrong), it seems to have been glued in, and I
wonder
if anyone has any advice for how I might remove the support in order to
clean up and subsequently re-attach it? I am taking the opportunity to
clean
up the rest of the Landing gear frame too, which does not display any
other
issues.
I have attached the diagram and a photo to show what I am looking at,
although it is difficult to see the crack. Any advice would be
gratefully
received.
All the Best
Rob
Robert Hatton
email: roberthatton1@googlemail.com
US Cell: +01 303 906 9395
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From: Peter Jeffers [mailto:pjeffers@talktalk.net]
Sent: 20 August 2009 08:52
Subject: U/C frame
Hi Rob,
The struts that you say 'appear to be glued in' are in fact. These struts
were incorporated into the U/C frame as a mod way back in 1996 as a
mandatory mod. The mod concerned is no 28 and since you will probably not
have a copy of it I attach one herewith.
So they will be removable with some local heating and a bit of persuasion.
Hot air gun heat should be enough. No flames! As you will notice it is
'stuck in with Redux 420.
Later build kits had these struts welded in as standard.
Hope this helps.
Pete Jeffers
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Hatton
Sent: 20 August 2009 01:54
Subject: Europa-List: Landing Gear Frame
I am checking over the landing gear after a heavy landing and one of the
supports in the Landing Gear Frame appears to have a slight and small crack.
Although it still attached to the frame. It does not seem to have been
welded (but I could be wrong), it seems to have been glued in, and I wonder
if anyone has any advice for how I might remove the support in order to
clean up and subsequently re-attach it? I am taking the opportunity to clean
up the rest of the Landing gear frame too, which does not display any other
issues.
I have attached the diagram and a photo to show what I am looking at,
although it is difficult to see the crack. Any advice would be gratefully
received.
All the Best
Rob
Robert Hatton
email: roberthatton1@googlemail.com
US Cell: +01 303 906 9395
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| Subject: | synchonising carbs |
Hi ,
I am looking for a CarbMate or similar tools to balance my carburettors on
my 914.As some one got one I could borrow please??
Cheers
G-CHET
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| Subject: | Re: 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 |
Robert,
If you do not find one locally, I have one in Ontario, Canada.
Dave.
do not archive
On 19-Aug-09, at 8:56 PM, Robert Hatton wrote:
> Hello All,
>
>
> Would anyone in the USA have a 16.5mm reamer I could borrow in
> order to carry out Mod 72? I am happy to pay for postage and packing.
>
>
> Robert Hatton
>
> email: roberthatton1@googlemail.com
>
> US Cell: +01 303 906 9395
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 |
Dave,
Will you be able to ship this to the US, or will Customs deem that it
is a "weapon of mass destruction" ?
Just kidding.
Do not archive
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:31 AM, david miller<loboloda@execulink.com> wrote:
> Robert,
> If you do not find one locally, I have one in Ontario, Canada.
> Dave.
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Gear Frame |
Bob,
I'd replace it...Have one in stock.
Bud
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Hatton<mailto:roberthatton1@googlemail.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:54 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Landing Gear Frame
I am checking over the landing gear after a heavy landing and one of
the supports in the Landing Gear Frame appears to have a slight and
small crack. Although it still attached to the frame. It does not seem
to have been welded (but I could be wrong), it seems to have been glued
in, and I wonder if anyone has any advice for how I might remove the
support in order to clean up and subsequently re-attach it? I am taking
the opportunity to clean up the rest of the Landing gear frame too,
which does not display any other issues.
I have attached the diagram and a photo to show what I am looking at,
although it is difficult to see the crack. Any advice would be
gratefully received.
All the Best
Rob
Robert Hatton
email: roberthatton1@googlemail.com
US Cell: +01 303 906 9395
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox removal tool |
WOW! That's a lot of cash for a simple slide hammer. My guess is that
you could borrow one from your local body/fender guy or just buy a cheap
slide at your local auto paint supplier.
Jeff - Baby Blue
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
> Hi Rob
>
> Pleasure talking with you.
>
> Here is one place that sells a gearbox puller:
> http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:c-3tCsBuyPQJ:www.800-airwolf.com/cpsnews.htm+rotax+912+gearbox+removal+tool&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
> <http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:c-3tCsBuyPQJ:www.800-airwolf.com/cpsnews.htm+rotax+912+gearbox+removal+tool&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us>
>
> I need one too, if during your search you find a good deal on 2.
> Ron P.
>
> > I am checking over the landing gear after a heavy landing and one of the
> > supports in the Landing Gear Frame appears to have a slight and small
> > crack.
> > Although it still attached to the frame. It does not seem to have been
> > welded (but I could be wrong), it seems to have been glued in, and I
> > wonder
> > if anyone has any advice for how I might remove the support in order to
> > clean up and subsequently re-attach it? I am taking the opportunity to
> > clean
> > up the rest of the Landing gear frame too, which does not display any
> > other
> > issues.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have attached the diagram and a photo to show what I am looking at,
> > although it is difficult to see the crack. Any advice would be
> gratefully
> > received.
> >
> >
> >
> > All the Best
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Hatton
> >
> > email: roberthatton1@googlemail.com
> >
> > US Cell: +01 303 906 9395
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Gearbox removal tool |
I made one, only cost a couple of 's plus an hour or so. Works just fine.
Pete Jeffers
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff B
Sent: 20 August 2009 15:42
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gearbox removal tool
WOW! That's a lot of cash for a simple slide hammer. My guess is that
you could borrow one from your local body/fender guy or just buy a cheap
slide at your local auto paint supplier.
Jeff - Baby Blue
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
> Hi Rob
>
> Pleasure talking with you.
>
> Here is one place that sells a gearbox puller:
>
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:c-3tCsBuyPQJ:www.800-airwolf.com/cpsnews
.htm+rotax+912+gearbox+removal+tool&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
>
<http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:c-3tCsBuyPQJ:www.800-airwolf.com/cpsnew
s.htm+rotax+912+gearbox+removal+tool&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us>
>
> I need one too, if during your search you find a good deal on 2.
> Ron P.
>
> > I am checking over the landing gear after a heavy landing and one of
the
> > supports in the Landing Gear Frame appears to have a slight and small
> > crack.
> > Although it still attached to the frame. It does not seem to have been
> > welded (but I could be wrong), it seems to have been glued in, and I
> > wonder
> > if anyone has any advice for how I might remove the support in order to
> > clean up and subsequently re-attach it? I am taking the opportunity to
> > clean
> > up the rest of the Landing gear frame too, which does not display any
> > other
> > issues.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have attached the diagram and a photo to show what I am looking at,
> > although it is difficult to see the crack. Any advice would be
> gratefully
> > received.
> >
> >
> >
> > All the Best
> >
> >
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Hatton
> >
> > email: roberthatton1@googlemail.com
> >
> > US Cell: +01 303 906 9395
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Gearbox removal tool |
I removed my gear box with a puller I fabricated with items I found around
my shop. Real simple, I will go find it and post a pic later.
Jerry
WOW! That's a lot of cash for a simple slide hammer. My guess is that
you could borrow one from your local body/fender guy or just buy a cheap
slide at your local auto paint supplier.
Jeff - Baby Blue
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox removal tool |
Hi Jeff
"> WOW! That's a lot of cash for a simple slide
hammer. My guess is that
> you could borrow one from your local
body/fender guy or just buy a cheap
> slide at your local auto
paint supplier."
I agree the link I sent is asking alot
(nice picture though), should be something that one should have on hand to
remove gearbox.
It's not just the slide hammer you need, also
needthe proper fixture to connect to the gearbox.
Perhaps
someone has some ideas and we could go in on a joint purchase?
Ron Parigoris
>> Here is one place that sells a gearbox
puller:
>>
http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:c-3tCsBuyPQJ:www.800-airwolf.com/cpsnews.htm+rotax+912+gearbox+removal+tool&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
>>
<http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:c-3tCsBuyPQJ:www.800-airwolf.com/cpsnews.htm+rotax+912+gearbox+removal+tool&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us>
>>
>> I need one too, if during your search you
find a good deal on 2.
>> Ron P
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox removal tool |
Folks,
I remove my gearbox every 300 and send it to the local rotax service
center to have the clutch checked out.
I have always been able to remove it by tapping with a plastic mallet.
For me is has always come off quite easily with gentle tapping.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox removal tool |
Ron,
Here's a slide hammer at bottom price:
http://www.carparts.com/SLIDE-HAMMER-PULLER-SET/GP_2007844_N__10618.car?zmam=73771597&zmas=17&zmac=100&zmap=10618-2007844
You'd have to make up a tool to properly connect to the gear box, but I bet you
are up to that task.
Bob
On Wednesday, August 19, 2009, at 11:17PM, <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote:
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox removal tool |
I guess you've not seen the price for the same tool from Rotax then :-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff B" <topglock@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gearbox removal tool
>
> WOW! That's a lot of cash for a simple slide hammer. My guess is that
> you could borrow one from your local body/fender guy or just buy a cheap
> slide at your local auto paint supplier.
>
> Jeff - Baby Blue
>
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| Subject: | synchonising carbs |
Herve
The Europa Club has one for loan to members.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Re: 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 |
Robert,
There was one floating around that Gary Roberts donated so I'm sure whoever has
it will respond soon.
Dan
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Hi Folks=2C
We are planning a visit to Muckleborough on the Norfolk edge of the Wash=2C
tomorrow (Friday).
Muckleborough=2C otherwise known as Weybourne=2C is a former RAF historic a
irfield. It has a museum=2C and catering on site=2C but no radio. Safety fr
equency is used.
If you fancy joining us at mid day you will be welcome.
Good wishes to all.
Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH anyone? |
Bryan Allsop wrote:
> We are planning a visit to Muckleborough on the Norfolk
> edge of the Wash, tomorrow (Friday).
> Muckleborough, otherwise known as Weybourne, is a
> former RAF historic airfield. It has a museum, and
> catering on site, but no radio. Safety frequency is
> used.
> If you fancy joining us at mid day you will be welcome.
Hi
Be warned that the catering (at the museum) is a healthy
walk away. At least 20 minutes.
When I went in there there was NO-ONE anywhere near !
The approaches are interesting (!) and the runways slope
significantly downhill towards the north. Read Pooleys
very carefully.
Richard
G-OWWW
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH anyone? |
I second all that Richard warns about. A very 'interesting' airfield. When
you think you are running out of runway, you crest the hill and see more but
you have probably opened the throttle by then (If you have sense) :-)
The tank demos are interesting if you manage to catch them.
Dave Watts G-BXDY
----- Original Message -----
> Bryan Allsop wrote:
>
>> We are planning a visit to Muckleborough on the Norfolk
>> edge of the Wash, tomorrow (Friday).
>
>> Muckleborough, otherwise known as Weybourne, is a
>> former RAF historic airfield. It has a museum, and
>> catering on site, but no radio. Safety frequency is
>> used.
>
>> If you fancy joining us at mid day you will be welcome.
>
> Hi
>
> Be warned that the catering (at the museum) is a healthy
> walk away. At least 20 minutes.
>
> When I went in there there was NO-ONE anywhere near !
>
> The approaches are interesting (!) and the runways slope
> significantly downhill towards the north. Read Pooleys
> very carefully.
>
> Richard
> G-OWWW
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH anyone? |
Hi Richard et al
I landed there in G-BYSA (Mono) a couple of weeks ago. Agree the place is
different, but great fun for a Europa. The cafe in the museum is literally a
stone's throw from the airfield, honest. There is also a delightfully
quirky cafe serving crab in Weybourne which is a pleasant 20 minutes away. I
reckon that is the place that you must be thinking of.
On my last trip I walked along the cliff's into Sheringham with my
girlfriend and then caught the steam train back to the airfield. I admit
that it was a full day, hence did not have time to enjoy the museum which
literally adjoins the strip.
Each pilot must make own judgement, but given good weather and a
precautionary overflight, Muckleborough should be enjoyable.
If the control caravan is not manned I could take my handheld if anyone
wants a ground based opinion
Regards
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "R Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH anyone?
>
> Bryan Allsop wrote:
>
>> We are planning a visit to Muckleborough on the Norfolk
>> edge of the Wash, tomorrow (Friday).
>
>> Muckleborough, otherwise known as Weybourne, is a
>> former RAF historic airfield. It has a museum, and
>> catering on site, but no radio. Safety frequency is
>> used.
>
>> If you fancy joining us at mid day you will be welcome.
>
> Hi
>
> Be warned that the catering (at the museum) is a healthy
> walk away. At least 20 minutes.
>
> When I went in there there was NO-ONE anywhere near !
>
> The approaches are interesting (!) and the runways slope
> significantly downhill towards the north. Read Pooleys
> very carefully.
>
> Richard
> G-OWWW
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH anyone? |
Hey, count me in. What frequency do you mean by 'safety frequency'?
Willie
On 20 Aug 2009, at 19:36, Bryan Allsop wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> We are planning a visit to Muckleborough on the Norfolk edge of the
> Wash, tomorrow (Friday).
>
> Muckleborough, otherwise known as Weybourne, is a former RAF
> historic airfield. It has a museum, and catering on site, but no
> radio. Safety frequency is used.
>
> If you fancy joining us at mid day you will be welcome.
>
> Good wishes to all.
>
> Bryan
>
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH anyone? |
SAFETYCOM 135.475
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: William Harrison
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH anyone?
Hey, count me in. What frequency do you mean by 'safety frequency'?
Willie
On 20 Aug 2009, at 19:36, Bryan Allsop wrote:
Hi Folks,
We are planning a visit to Muckleborough on the Norfolk edge of the
Wash, tomorrow (Friday).
Muckleborough, otherwise known as Weybourne, is a former RAF
historic airfield. It has a museum, and catering on site, but no radio.
Safety frequency is used.
If you fancy joining us at mid day you will be welcome.
Good wishes to all.
Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: Gearbox removal tool |
That's exactly what I did, Paul. Just commenting on the high-priced
slide hammer... :)
Jeff
Paul McAllister wrote:
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> Folks,
>
> I remove my gearbox every 300 and send it to the local rotax service
> center to have the clutch checked out.
>
> I have always been able to remove it by tapping with a plastic mallet.
> For me is has always come off quite easily with gentle tapping.
>
> Paul
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> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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| Subject: | 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 |
Hi Robert,
Sorry, I just got back from a trip to Florida, so I have only just seen your
email.
I have the 16.5mm reamer that is Garys. It is here in the states, so a
'reamer from hell' shipped through customs and their quadruple glances won't
be necessary!
Send me your address offsite, and I will be happy to send it on its way.
Regards,
Greg
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Hello All,
Would anyone in the USA have a 16.5mm reamer I could borrow in order to
carry out Mod 72? I am happy to pay for postage and packing.
Robert Hatton
email: roberthatton1@googlemail.com
US Cell: +01 303 906 9395
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| Subject: | Re: 16.5mm Reamer for Mod 72 |
Hi all,
the perfect solution for the mod 72 is to use a dremel 16mm cylinder abrade.
It is possible to use gently and do not make a damage in the tube.
Quoting danbish <bdanbish@gmail.com>:
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> Robert,
>
> There was one floating around that Gary Roberts donated so I'm sure whoever
> has it will respond soon.
>
> Dan
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>
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