---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 08/28/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:05 AM - Re: Trailer wing cradle (Raimo Toivio) 2. 01:13 PM - Re: Trailer wing cradle (Fred Klein) 3. 01:43 PM - The Untied States Of Aremica (Fergus Kyle) 4. 02:45 PM - Ducati voltage - ATTN Frans Veldman (Fergus Kyle) 5. 03:14 PM - Re: The Untied States Of Aremica (Robert Borger) 6. 03:59 PM - Re: Ducati voltage - ATTN Frans Veldman (Frans Veldman) 7. 07:48 PM - The USA (Fergus Kyle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:48 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailer wing cradle Fred Yes. That is an original factory trailer and I bought it from Germany almost as unused. BTW it=B4s price was just 100 euros - do not ask why. I made some mods like those wing cradles and what=B4s most important, a second axle. I think that is a must like an insurance! It is quite usual to see a trailer beside road and it has lost one tire and a serious accident has followed. I asked myself what will happen to my Europa omboard on the trailer and such a thing happen? We have dual filters, accus, ignitions, radios etc. to make our day - trailer w 2nd axle was the 1st in my safety list. As we know - road traffic to and from the airport is dangerous and the most riskiest part of flying... Later I add also a full floor to prevent shit, sand, mud and water to spoil my plane when trailering it. Attached a photo - maybe the floor is visible. Raimo OH-XRT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Klein" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:18 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailer wing cradle > > Raimo, > > Thanks for the pixs...is that twin-axle trailer your own design? > > Fred > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:13:23 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailer wing cradle Raimo, Very informative post...thank you. I've experienced the very thing your twin axles can handle. On a Sunday afternoon, 100 miles from Nowhere, I shredded a trailer tire after the wheel bearing failed while towing a glider. With no available service for repairs, I was able to continue at reduced speed, all the way home with 2 axles and 3 wheels...my glider was, however, much lighter weight than our XSs. I also like your floor and multiple signs, reflectors, etc. to protect your ship. Fred -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:07 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: The Untied States Of Aremica Equipping my Europa - Trying to complete an already tardy project, I emailed McMaster-Carr, ordering some pretty hot stuff - a package of wire terminals, #8 wire for #12 holes 7036K12 I think. I trusted them with my address, credit card and telephone number.... Here's what I got back: "Thank you for your order. Unfortunately, due to the ever increasing complexity of United States export regulations, McMaster-Carr will only process orders from a few long-established customers in Canada. We sincerely regret any inconvenience this causes you. Thank you, David Ulam, McMaster-Carr Supply Co 330-995-5929" Not bad for a 21-year fighter pilot who spent 8 years cruising the skies waiting for Russki bombers to attack the U.S.A. , a neighbouring country.- i.e: NORAD [North America Air Defence]. Must be Loooong-established customers, because I've been ordering since 1997. Ferg Europa Classic 914 CSprop ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:40 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Ducati voltage - ATTN Frans Veldman Frans, You said: "You can connect this [12V point "C"] directly to the adjacent connector ('B' or 'R', which carries the actual output)............but a more correct way is to connect it directly to the battery......." At the bottom of page78 of the Install 914F manual/1996 05 10, titled "Requirements for flawless operation of the rectifier-regulator". The fifth item states "never sever connection between terminal C and +B of regulator e.g. by removal of a fuse". Or these two quotes mutually acceptable, or have I misinterpreted the meaning. I don't mean by removing a fuse, but separating C and +B on the regulator? I suppose I should scan the electric circuit of the regulator but I'm lazy. Cheers, Ferg A064 Europa Classic 914 CSprop ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:19 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Untied States Of Aremica Ferg, Send me a list of part numbers you want and I will order it and forward it along to you. Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Aircraft Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Aug 28, 2009, at 15:38, Fergus Kyle wrote: > Equipping my Europa - > Trying to complete an already tardy project, I emailed McMaster-Carr, > ordering some pretty hot stuff - a package of wire terminals, #8 > wire for > #12 holes 7036K12 I think. I trusted them with my address, credit > card and > telephone number.... > Here's what I got back: > > "Thank you for your order. Unfortunately, due to the ever increasing > complexity of United States export regulations, McMaster-Carr will > only > process orders from a few long-established customers in Canada. We > sincerely regret any inconvenience this causes you. Thank you, > David Ulam, McMaster-Carr Supply Co 330-995-5929" > > Not bad for a 21-year fighter pilot who spent 8 years cruising the > skies waiting for Russki bombers to attack the U.S.A. , a neighbouring > country.- i.e: NORAD [North America Air Defence]. Must be > Loooong-established customers, because I've been ordering since 1997. > Ferg > Europa Classic 914 CSprop > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:47 PM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ducati voltage - ATTN Frans Veldman Fergus Kyle wrote: > Frans, > You said: > "You can connect this [12V point "C"] directly to the adjacent connector > ('B' or 'R', which carries the actual output)............but a more correct > way is to connect it directly to the battery......." Consider B and R of the output of the regulator, and C as the sensor wire, which measures the output voltage. You can connect them together of course, and it will more or less work as intended. However, there is always a small voltage loss over the cable from the regulator to the battery. This means that the battery will get slightly less than intended. So, by hooking the sensor wire (C) directly to the battery, the regulator will automatically compensate for cable losses, because it tries to keep the voltage at C constant. (That's why we call it a regulator). Some my wonder if the cable attached to C won't have losses by itself and defeat the purpose. The answer is No, because there is no current in the cable attached to C. Put Ohm's law into the equation, and you will see that without current, there won't be any cable loss. The output of the regulator however will provide all the power to the ship, so cable losses are at that point quite high. So, by connecting the sensor wire at the battery, the regulator will keep the voltage at the battery constant, regardless of cable losses. > At the bottom of page78 of the Install 914F manual/1996 05 10, > titled "Requirements for flawless operation of the rectifier-regulator". The > fifth item states "never sever connection between terminal C and +B of > regulator e.g. by removal of a fuse". What they mean is that you should keep the sensor (C wire) always somehow connected to the output of the regulator. But not necessarily via the shortest route. It is logical if you think about it, if you were to disconnect the sensor wire completely, the regulator would measure a very low voltage (zero) and crank up the voltage at B and R untill it measures the correct voltage, which will never happen in that situation. If the manufacturer intended to keep C and B and R always connected via the shortest route, he would have done this internally and not bothered to make them available via separate pins. Frans ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:32 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: The USA My outburst was 'off topic' and I apologise. The insolence of the wording rang my bell and the net served to put my gall back in place and my blood pressure into nature's range once more. I mean no anger at the many buddies from the Great Republic and should not have sounded off - but I'm amazed at the reaction I've stirred. To the several friends who offered to acquire my meager bits for me - thanks so much - it meant a lot but I didn't want you to get caught up should my strange demands (three spring plungers of a certain size) to ring a bell with the Homeland Security Mazen whose strange upbringing has sharpened the sting.. What's happened is I met a person whose job it is to circumvent the eerie outpourings of this nervous cadre and he has promised to acquire every little need by burying it in a bundle without which the Meddlesome Minions cannot exist - no more detail than that. I thought to attach my order to the next barrel of oil sands fluid bound for the border but this alternative is far more satisfying. What a great bunch these Europa cousins are! Cheers, Ferg *Duncan - can I get you anything? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.