---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/03/09: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:17 AM - Re: Re: VOR Aerials (Greg Fuchs) 2. 12:27 AM - Re: Re: VOR Aerials (Greg Fuchs) 3. 07:17 AM - HM Customs and Immigration Obligations on Pilots of GA Aircraft to and from the UK (Robert C Harrison) 4. 09:26 AM - Spark plug caps (nigel charles) 5. 09:44 AM - Re: Spark plug caps (Bill Henderson) 6. 09:54 AM - Re: Spark plug caps (R Holder) 7. 10:14 AM - Re: Spark plug caps (Geoff Leedham) 8. 10:24 AM - Re: Spark plug caps (Paul McAllister) 9. 10:24 AM - Re: Spark plug caps (Geoff Leedham) 10. 12:43 PM - Re: Spark plug caps (Jim Brown) 11. 03:06 PM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Spark_plug_caps? (Carl Pattinson) 12. 04:16 PM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Spark_plug_caps? (Carl Pattinson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:50 AM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: VOR Aerials Frans- .....Looks like this thread is slowed (for now). Its just a matter of looking for the best way to do things. I think we all strive for that, while building our Europa. Regards, Greg Fuchs XS TRI >Further: what is the purpose anyway? The limit is the line-of-sight, and we >can reach that with a standard dipole. Nobody is going to send a QSL-card >or giving awards if you manage to crank out a stronger signal anyway. The >rest is airplane logic: keep it as light weight as possible, and as simple >(reliable) as possible. >Frans ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:27:15 AM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: VOR Aerials Yes, I believe you are right here, except for shortwave. My goof. My punishment is banishment to the dungeon, with only a little daylight through a small window, for a few days while I do some more research. Greg >>the overall height of the Marconi antenna is only half the >> equivalent overall height of the Hertz antenna. >No, this is not true. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:17:43 AM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: HM Customs and Immigration Obligations on Pilots of GA Aircraft to and from the UK Hi! All UK and European Pilots/ visitors. I have always had an inclination to forget the procedure concerning Customs and Immigration. So to help me not have to ask other obliging friends I contacted the HM Revenue & Customs. One of their staff has already compiled such a summary into leaflet form, a copy of which I will scan and attach to this message for the benefit of others who may be somewhat dazzled by the mere mention of the words HMR&C. I hope that none of the regular fliers can pick holes in it! There's useful phone/fax numbers on it anyway. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG PS Incidentally Switzerland and Norway are not in the "European Club" and don't anyone get the idea that "Stalwart Anti EU Bob" is softening his principles! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:02 AM PST US From: "nigel charles" Subject: Europa-List: Spark plug caps A friend of mine with an ARV needs to replace the spark plug caps on his Rotax 914. He was horrified to find that Rotax price them at =A333 each. At the moment only 2 of the caps are loose but he had planned to change all 8 but at that price he is having second thoughts. Has anyone found a cheaper source? Such a high price is a ridiculous rip off. Regards Nigel Charles ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:26 AM PST US From: "Bill Henderson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spark plug caps Try a motocycle shop. I seem to remember seeing a note from someone with the same problem and found they were very cheap relative to the Rotax price. Can' t remember what type mortorcycle, but I would guess BMW. Bill A010 Monowheel Classic, 912S Still Building ----- Original Message ----- From: nigel charles To: Forum Europa Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: Europa-List: Spark plug caps A friend of mine with an ARV needs to replace the spark plug caps on his Rotax 914. He was horrified to find that Rotax price them at =A333 each. At the moment only 2 of the caps are loose but he had planned to change all 8 but at that price he is having second thoughts. Has anyone found a cheaper source? Such a high price is a ridiculous rip off. Regards Nigel Charles ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:15 AM PST US From: R Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spark plug caps nigel charles wrote: > A friend of mine with an ARV needs to replace the spark plug caps on his > Rotax 914. He was horrified to find that Rotax price them at 33 each. > At the moment only 2 of the caps are loose but he had planned to change > all 8 but at that price he is having second thoughts. Has anyone found a > cheaper source? Such a high price is a ridiculous rip off. It is all down to how easily they fit on the ht cable. And if it is certified or not ! NGK sell plug caps : http://www.startright.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2309 Also see http://www.sparkplugs.co.uk/pages/technical/ngk-plug-cap-code.htm Now the plug caps we use are for the threaded top plugs, but the same plugs are available with a "nipple" on it, which would allow the use of a more conventional plug cap. Of course if his plug caps are loose, is there any chance he can "tighten them up" !!! (as he wil have to tighten up the new plug cap(s) ! RFWH ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:14:06 AM PST US From: "Geoff Leedham" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spark plug caps Nigel, search for a local motor factor that is an agent for Nippon Denso plugs. I used to pay arround =A320 for a box of 10! Geoff Leedham ----- Original Message ----- From: nigel charles To: Forum Europa Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Europa-List: Spark plug caps ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spark plug caps From: Paul McAllister The part number on is VDO5FMH which ties out with the codes on startright's WEB site so it looks like it might be a standard part. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:07 AM PST US From: "Geoff Leedham" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spark plug caps Nigel, ignore last message, I misread the post and assumed plugs. You should still be able to get them from a motor factors though. Geoff Leedham ----- Original Message ----- From: nigel charles To: Forum Europa Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Europa-List: Spark plug caps A friend of mine with an ARV needs to replace the spark plug caps on his Rotax 914. He was horrified to find that Rotax price them at =A333 each. At the moment only 2 of the caps are loose but he had planned to change all 8 but at that price he is having second thoughts. Has anyone found a cheaper source? Such a high price is a ridiculous rip off. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:43:06 PM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spark plug caps I went to a Honda motor cycle shop with one of the NGK spark plug caps off my 914.-Make sure the replacement has the 5 ohm resistance in the cap. I paid about 4.00 US dollars for each cap. The Rotax dealer here in Florida c harges 50.00 per cap.... Way beyond price gouging. Jim Brown. --- On Thu, 9/3/09, nigel charles wrote: From: nigel charles Subject: Europa-List: Spark plug caps A friend of mine with an ARV needs to replace the spark plug caps on his Ro tax 914. He was horrified to find that Rotax price them at =A333 each. At t he moment only 2 of the caps are loose but he had planned to change all 8 b ut at that price he is having second thoughts. Has anyone found a cheaper s ource? Such a high price is a ridiculous rip off. - Regards - Nigel Charles =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:06:30 PM PST US From: "Carl Pattinson" Subject: Europa-List: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Spark_plug_caps? X-mailer: iAVMailScanner 1.5.7.1 We have been flying for the last 5 years with the bakelite versions of the original NGK rubber plug caps, sourced from a local motor factor shop - cost about =A33.00 each. The impedance is the same as the originals - the ones we have are angled at 45 degrees (same angle as the rubber ones) though im sure the 90 degree ones would work as well. I spent months trying to find the rubber equivalents but it seems nobody markets them except Rotax at the unbelievable rip off prices they charge. I dont make a habit of accusing Rotax or Skydrive of extortionate prices but on this occassion its hard not to. Personally I cant see any advantage of the rubber caps over the bakelite (apart from them being certified). Carl Pattinson G-LABS ----- Original Message ----- From: nigel charles To: Forum Europa Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Europa-List: Spark plug caps A friend of mine with an ARV needs to replace the spark plug caps on his Rotax 914. He was horrified to find that Rotax price them at =A333 each. At the moment only 2 of the caps are loose but he had planned to change all 8 but at that price he is having second thoughts. Has anyone found a cheaper source? Such a high price is a ridiculous rip off. Regards Nigel Charles ========= ========= ========= ========= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No viruses found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1 http://www.iolo.com _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1 http://www.iolo.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:16:24 PM PST US From: "Carl Pattinson" Subject: Europa-List: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Spark_plug_caps? X-mailer: iAVMailScanner 1.5.7.1 The product code for the bakelite version is YB05F - on the startright website priced at =A33.50 each. _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1 http://www.iolo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.