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1. 02:39 AM - Re: DOTH Friday 18th Gloucester (Paddy Clarke)
2. 02:54 AM - Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Raimo Toivio)
3. 03:05 AM - More pitfalls for HMCustoms inbound flights!!!!!!!!!!!! (Robert C Harrison)
4. 04:13 AM - Re: More pitfalls for HMCustoms inbound flights!!!!!!!!!!!! (Rowland Carson)
5. 05:35 AM - Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Paul McAllister)
6. 06:56 AM - Weather Won't Cooperate (Bob Borger)
7. 07:20 AM - Re: Weather Won't Cooperate (JEFF ROBERTS)
8. 07:46 AM - Re: Weather Won't Cooperate (Jeff B)
9. 07:51 AM - Wire and Cable Sources in US? (DJGeldermann)
10. 08:44 AM - Re: Wire and Cable Sources in US? (Bob Borger)
11. 09:04 AM - Paint Brands Suggentions for composite Aircraft (Jeffrey J Paris)
12. 09:51 AM - Re: Paint Brands Suggentions for composite Aircraft (David Joyce)
13. 09:51 AM - Re: DOTH Friday 18th Gloucester (Steve Pitt)
14. 10:05 AM - Re: Wire and Cable Sources in US? (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
15. 11:12 AM - Re: Paint Brands Suggentions for composite Aircraft (JEFF ROBERTS)
16. 11:51 AM - Re: DOTH Friday 18th Gloucester (Rowland Carson)
17. 03:00 PM - Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (rampil)
18. 03:14 PM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 09/16/09 (Karel Vranken)
19. 03:16 PM - Re: Wire and Cable Sources in US? (rampil)
20. 04:14 PM - Re: Weather Won't Cooperate (Gary Leinberger)
21. 05:56 PM - Re: Wire and Cable Sources in US? (DJGeldermann)
22. 07:34 PM - Re: Weather Won't Cooperate (JEFF ROBERTS)
23. 08:33 PM - Re: Weather Won't Cooperate (Paul McAllister)
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Friday 18th Gloucester |
Hi Folks,
We're going for a DOTH to Gloucester on Friday. 1200ish as usual,
voucher in Flyer.
All the best, Paddy.
Paddy Clarke
Europa G-KIMM
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| Subject: | Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
All
I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
Monowheel.
Loosing suddenly main gear=B4s air pressure is not a funny game and did
not make my day actually.
Both of them have been original -Europa supply.
That means they are Indonesian made Deli Co=B4s "Nanco" 8.00 x6/7 TR-87
-type.
Both times I have found a very little crack (dry rot they say) on the
sidewalls.
Google "Nanco problems" ...
Main /outer tyre (Airtrac) is unhurt and a new like.
May I please get a recommendation about a good quality inner tyre?!
Kind Regards,
Raimo from Finland
OH-XRT 139 hrs 280 landings
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| Subject: | More pitfalls for HMCustoms inbound flights!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Hi! All UK Flyers....
Further to what I thought was a helpful leaflet with regards to keeping
legal with HMRC, Immigration/Border Agency, and Police Anti-Terrorism
Authorities as you may well expect nothing can be so simple when it
transgresses Multiple Bureaucratic Departments!
I must now refer you to the General Aviation Report "Completion and
Submission Instructions" where you will find that there are further
obligations to conform to.
It now transpires that there is a list of Designated Airfields and COA
Airfields which have Certificates of Agreements or "Concessions" These 92
CoA airfields require you to include them in for a copy of your GA Report
Fax. (See GAR Instructions May 09 vl.1a page 3)
Similarly on GAR Instructions May 09vl.1a page 2 is listed the details of
Anti-Terrorism Police Forces who also need prior notification!
All these documents are readily available on the HMRC web site at
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk
So the original leaflet over simplifies the requirements as evidenced by the
fact that when 20 miles out from Texel last Saturday I was advised that
Elstree wouldn't accept my flight plan inbound to them ! In spite of the
fact that I submitted the GA Report Form a minimum of 24 hours ahead!
Since I had put North Weald as my alternative I dropped in there (also a COA
field) illegally then immediately departed to Elstree where I was accepted
as a local domestic flight!
So in summary :- Either fly into recognized Customs and Immigration airports
and pay the necessary additional landing fees OR "roll your own" and carry a
suitcase full of damn paper with you for reference and Fax numbers.
Since I abhor bureaucracy I will in future be showering them with faxes and
saving otherwise unnecessary, time inconvenient and landing costs.
So likewise there probably also exists a similar (jobs for the boys) system
in the EU when flying outbound to them!
Best regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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| Subject: | Re: More pitfalls for HMCustoms inbound flights!!!!!!!!!!!! |
At 2009-09-17 10:57 +0100 Robert C Harrison wrote:
>there probably also exists a similar (jobs for the boys) system
>in the EU
Bob - don't make too many assumptions!
Don't forget that the English taught bureaucracy to the rest of the
world (look at India) and are widely acknowledged to be masters of
the art.
Sorry to hear you had so much trouble on your return to Little Britain!
regards
Rowland
PS no, I'm not English - how did you guess?
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| Subject: | Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
Hi,
I have this happen regularly. I now just change them every 100 hours
and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I
have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
much improvement.
The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
such low pressure.
Paul
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> wrote:
> All
>
> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
> Monowheel.
>
> Loosing suddenly main gears air pressure is not a funny game and did not
> make my day actually.
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| Subject: | Weather Won't Cooperate |
U.S. Europaphiles,
I'm afraid that we must cancel our trip to the U.S. Europa Fly-In at Rough River.
The weather refuses to cooperate. We have had over 2 weeks of solid IFR here in
North Texas and it's not going to improve before Sunday.
I have been unable to fly The Little Dragon Lady at all so it's still at 15 hours.
I was going to rent a DA-20 or Remos from the local flight school
but the weather between here and 2I3 is forecast to be IFR through Sunday.
My best regards to all who make it. We hope to see you at KOSH and other fly-in
gatherings over the next year.
Check six,
Bob Borger
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Won't Cooperate |
Bob and all,
We are in the same boat... literally. We've had 4 inches of rain in the
last 24 hours and more to come all weekend. I believe we're the closest
to Rough River and this front isn't going anywhere. There is rain
forecast and IFR all weekend into next week here. I will be driving up
but I doubt there could be anyone flying in by the forecast I'm
getting. Dare we consider canceling and trying for another soon to be
nice weekend. I'm sure the fly-in / drive in attendance will be low
because of this weather.
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush
On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Bob Borger wrote:
>
> U.S. Europaphiles,
>
> I'm afraid that we must cancel our trip to the U.S. Europa Fly-In at
> Rough River.
>
> The weather refuses to cooperate. We have had over 2 weeks of solid
> IFR here in North Texas and it's not going to improve before Sunday.
> I have been unable to fly The Little Dragon Lady at all so it's still
> at 15 hours. I was going to rent a DA-20 or Remos from the local
> flight school
> but the weather between here and 2I3 is forecast to be IFR through
> Sunday.
>
> My best regards to all who make it. We hope to see you at KOSH and
> other fly-in gatherings over the next year.
>
> Check six,
> Bob Borger
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Won't Cooperate |
Jeff and all,
Looks like Mary and I may have to cancel, too. Might be able to thread
our way in, but Sunday looks really bad. Gonna miss the crowd, but
there's always next year...
Jeff - Baby Blue
JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>
> Bob and all,
> We are in the same boat... literally. We've had 4 inches of rain in the
> last 24 hours and more to come all weekend. I believe we're the closest
> to Rough River and this front isn't going anywhere. There is rain
> forecast and IFR all weekend into next week here. I will be driving up
> but I doubt there could be anyone flying in by the forecast I'm getting.
> Dare we consider canceling and trying for another soon to be nice
> weekend. I'm sure the fly-in / drive in attendance will be low because
> of this weather.
> Jeff R.
> A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Bob Borger wrote:
>
>>
>> U.S. Europaphiles,
>>
>> I'm afraid that we must cancel our trip to the U.S. Europa Fly-In at
>> Rough River.
>>
>> The weather refuses to cooperate. We have had over 2 weeks of solid
>> IFR here in North Texas and it's not going to improve before Sunday.
>> I have been unable to fly The Little Dragon Lady at all so it's still
>> at 15 hours. I was going to rent a DA-20 or Remos from the local
>> flight school
>> but the weather between here and 2I3 is forecast to be IFR through
>> Sunday.
>>
>> My best regards to all who make it. We hope to see you at KOSH and
>> other fly-in gatherings over the next year.
>>
>> Check six,
>> Bob Borger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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| Subject: | Wire and Cable Sources in US? |
Anyone have any wiring and antenna cable supplier sources in the US that
they have been happy with?
Thanks,
Dan
Dan Geldermann
A-139
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| Subject: | Re: Wire and Cable Sources in US? |
Dan,
I've had good luck with both B&C Specialty Products and Aircraft Spruce. Though
ACS is more limited in colors.
I'm sure there are many others out there.
Bob Borger
Europa XS, Rotax 914, Airmaster Prop.
On Thursday, September 17, 2009, at 09:51AM, "DJGeldermann" <djgeldermann@verizon.net>
wrote:
>
>Anyone have any wiring and antenna cable supplier sources in the US that
>they have been happy with?
>Thanks,
>Dan
>
>Dan Geldermann
>A-139
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| Subject: | Paint Brands Suggentions for composite Aircraft |
Dear Europa Gurus,
Any suggestions on what brand of paint product works best for our airframes?
I have used these products in the past on othe Airplane projects:
My Zenith Zodiac-Akzo Nobel-epoxy primer and 2 part Polyurethane wished for
better results
My friend's RV-6-PPG epoxy primer and 2 part Polyurethane- Nice product to w
ork with and nice results
My friends Sonex-Stewart Systems Water based 2 Part Polyurethane-A BITCH to
work with. Results good after a great deal of fussing/Re-do's.
Thanks for your time and consideration.
Jeff Paris Jab 3300 Kit #A012 Europa Monowheel Classic Dynon D180 1920 hours
into the project
------------------------------------------------------------
Click to reduce wrinkles & lines. Anti-aging that works, try now.
Anti-Wrinkle Products
http://tagline.excite.com/fc/FgElN1gzklyIMaOuxbfJp0YCHs05OC7kN6e2Olj9XdMW9rC
HbeDa4PtUs96/
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| Subject: | Re: Paint Brands Suggentions for composite Aircraft |
Jeff, I would recommend gel coat and in particular Swabilec - sprayed and
then rubbed down to a perfect finish with wet & dry. It is what most racing
gliders are finished with and they of course look for the ultimate finish on
their laminar flow surfaces. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey J Paris" <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Paint Brands Suggentions for composite Aircraft
Dear Europa Gurus,
Any suggestions on what brand of paint product works best for our airframes?
I have used these products in the past on othe Airplane projects:
My Zenith Zodiac-Akzo Nobel-epoxy primer and 2 part Polyurethane wished for
better results
My friend's RV-6-PPG epoxy primer and 2 part Polyurethane- Nice product to
work with and nice results
My friends Sonex-Stewart Systems Water based 2 Part Polyurethane-A BITCH to
work with. Results good after a great deal of fussing/Re-do's.
Thanks for your time and consideration.
Jeff Paris Jab 3300 Kit #A012 Europa Monowheel Classic Dynon D180 1920 hours
into the project
------------------------------------------------------------
Click to reduce wrinkles & lines. Anti-aging that works, try now.
Anti-Wrinkle Products
http://tagline.excite.com/fc/FgElN1gzklyIMaOuxbfJp0YCHs05OC7kN6e2Olj9XdMW9rCHbeDa4PtUs96/
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Friday 18th Gloucester |
After all I have double booked myself so cannot make tomorrow.
I did fly to Cornwall today and Mrs Pitt said she had a very pleasant
flight with me. Things are on the up!!
Regards
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH
----- Original Message -----
From: Paddy Clarke
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Friday 18th Gloucester
Hi Folks,
We're going for a DOTH to Gloucester on Friday. 1200ish as usual,
voucher in Flyer.
All the best, Paddy.
Paddy Clarke
Europa G-KIMM
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| Subject: | Re: Wire and Cable Sources in US? |
Hi Dan
Anyone have any wiring and antenna cable supplier
sources in the US that they have been happy with?"
As BobMentioned ACS and B+C are good sources.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/index.html
http://www.bandc.biz/index.aspx
Steinair is cheapier on many things with an OK website for
ordering, good at answering my "MANY" questions:
http://www.steinair.com/
Eric has aluminium wire with copper clad (Stein sells some also from
Eric) and aluminium clad antenna wire (light but hard to terminate) and
wig wags and other good stuff:
http://www.periheliondesign.com./
Other:
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/
http://www.gca.aero/default.asp
http://www.safeair1.com/index.htm
http://order.waytekwire.com/cgi-bin/lansaweb?procfun+wordpr01+webfunc+M37+FUNCPARMS+WEBCMP(S0020):01+WEBID(S0020):01
Also biggies:
Digikey
Mouser
Newark
and
don't forget my favorite company on planet earth:
McMaster Carr!
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Paint Brands Suggentions for composite Aircraft |
Jeff,
After using K38 (PPG) high build primer and blocking down several times
I then used Sherwin Williams Geniuses automotive finish. One coat then
one wet coat and that was it. Looks good. However, If I had to do it
all over again I would use these...
http://www.loehle.com/loehle_aero_coatings_on_rv_aircr.htm
Mike Loehle will be at Rough River and anyone is interested they can
sit in on a talk he's giving on his finishes to the Louisville EAA
chapter.
Regards,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush Driving into Rough River Saturday morning
and spending the night.
Bud... I'll bring the miller light since I'm driving.
On Sep 17, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Jeffrey J Paris wrote:
>
> Dear Europa Gurus,
>
> Any suggestions on what brand of paint product works best for our
> airframes? I have used these products in the past on othe Airplane
> projects:
>
> My Zenith Zodiac-Akzo Nobel-epoxy primer and 2 part Polyurethane
> wished for better results
>
> My friend's RV-6-PPG epoxy primer and 2 part Polyurethane- Nice
> product to work with and nice results
>
> My friends Sonex-Stewart Systems Water based 2 Part Polyurethane-A
> BITCH to work with.Resultsgood after a great deal of
> fussing/Re-do's.
>
> Thanks for your time and consideration.
>
>
>
> Jeff Paris Jab 3300 Kit #A012Europa Monowheel Classic Dynon D180 1920
> hours into the project
>
>
> Click to reduce wrinkles & lines. Anti-aging that works, try now.
> Anti-Wrinkle Products
> Click Here For More Information
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Friday 18th Gloucester |
At 2009-09-17 10:33 +0100 Paddy Clarke wrote:
>We're going for a DOTH to Gloucester on Friday. 1200ish as usual,
>voucher in Flyer.
Paddy - anyone at a loss for action tomorrow could pop over to Croft
Farm (Defford) and help Tim and me to replace (again) the squidgy
block in his suspension. People with long, thin, very strong fingers
especially welcome!
regards
Rowland
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| 1300 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
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| Subject: | Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
Rubber deteriorates by oxidation, the process is accelerated by
heat and flexing, conditions that exist inside tires. This may have
something to do with why inner tubes are no longer used in most
motor vehicles.
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263590#263590
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 09/16/09 |
To all,
When Dirk and me planned to go to Texel, we would have made the Waddentrip
on Sunday till Wangerooge and then fly back over mid-Germany to our home
base at Leopoldsburg, Belgium. We cancelled the Waddentrip because the
weather over Germany for our return was not what we expected good VFR
conditions. We met Jiri twice before and he was very agreable company; now
we missed him because we didn't stay the night over and returned on
Saturday. Nowadays we can get good meteo information. Let us take a lesson
out of this accident. We are good weather pilots and fly in only VFR
conditions with our small airplanes.
Nevertheless, I am very sad for what happened to the brothers Vicharek, and
hope some one will bring my condoleances to their families.
Karel Vranken.
2009/9/17 Europa-List Digest Server <europa-list@matronics.com>
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>
> 1. 04:28 AM - DOTH (Steven Pitt)
> 2. 05:24 AM - Europa Accident in Germany (bbwebbase)
> 3. 06:47 AM - AW: Europa Accident in Germany (uvtreith)
> 4. 07:19 AM - Re: AW: Europa Accident in Germany (Bob Borger)
> 5. 07:50 AM - Europa Accident in Germany (standa.svec@volny.cz)
> 6. 08:04 AM - test (standa.svec@volny.cz)
> 7. 08:15 AM - Re: Europa Accident in Germany (JEFF ROBERTS)
> 8. 12:44 PM - Re: DOTH (Paddy Clarke)
> 9. 01:20 PM - Re: Registration letters (mike gamble)
> 10. 01:22 PM - Re: DOTH (Steven Pitt)
> 11. 03:49 PM - Re: texel fly-in (Rowland Carson)
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> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 04:28:46 AM PST US
> From: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: DOTH
>
>
> Anyone for a DOTH tomorrow Thursday 16th. Flyer has Seething, Tibbenham and
> Gloucestershire whilst LAA has Lands End and Bagby (a bit further afield).
> I
> have not been to anyone of them so have no idea about their bacon butties.
> Regards
> Steve Pitt
> G-SMDH
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:24:11 AM PST US
> Subject: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
> From: "bbwebbase" <alexander_rodriguez@YAHOO.COM>
>
>
> http://www.da-imnetz.de/nachrichten/deutschland/zwei-tote-nach-absturz-eines-kleinflugzeuges-467770.html
>
>
> http://jenanews.de/index.php/nachrichten/polizeibericht/53-nachrichten/2481-flugzeugabsturz-bei-jena
>
> It appears as if the plane was circling before disappearing on 15.9.2010 at
> 19:20.
> The two male passengers were on their way from Holland (Texel Fly-Inn ?) to
> CZ.
>
> Gives me the chills every time and I feel sad for the two, their families
> and
> friends.
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org <http://www.europaowners.org/>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 06:47:47 AM PST US
> From: "uvtreith" <uvtreith@t-online.de>
> Subject: AW: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
>
> The owner and pilot was Jiri Vicharek from CZ and his Canadian friend.
>
> I flew with him once and he was a good pilot and a very nice person.
>
> The plane was a Europa Xs Monowheel with Rotax 914T and Airmaster Prop
> and
> based at Benisov /CZ
>
> According to my information they were coming in bad weather conditions
> and
> tried to land somewhere (airfield Sch=F6ngleina).
>
> They crashed in the surrounding forest.
>
> Jiri was married and has had 3 children.
>
>
> I am very sad about this,
>
>
> Bruno
>
>
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> Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von bbwebbase
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. September 2009 14:30
> An: europa-list@matronics.com
> Betreff: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
>
>
> <alexander_rodriguez@yahoo.com>
>
>
> http://www.da-imnetz.de/nachrichten/deutschland/zwei-tote-nach-absturz-ei
> nes
> -kleinflugzeuges-467770.html
>
>
> http://jenanews.de/index.php/nachrichten/polizeibericht/53-nachrichten/24
> 81-
> flugzeugabsturz-bei-jena
>
>
> It appears as if the plane was circling before disappearing on 15.9.2010
> at
> 19:20. The two male passengers were on their way from Holland (Texel
> Fly-Inn
> ?) to CZ.
>
>
> Gives me the chills every time and I feel sad for the two, their
> families
> and friends.
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org <http://www.europaowners.org/>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:19:55 AM PST US
> From: Bob Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: AW: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
>
> Bruno,
>
> I am so sorry to hear of the tragic loss of your friends. Our prayers are
> extended
> to both families on their loss.
>
> Bob & Maureen Borger
> Europa XS
> Corinth, TX.
>
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2009, at 08:34AM, "uvtreith" <
> uvtreith@t-online.de>
> wrote:
> >
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:50:31 AM PST US
> Subject: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
> From: standa.svec@volny.cz
>
>
> The other victim was not his Canadien friend, but his brother with Canadien
> citizenship.
> His brother was also married and has had 3 children, too ... .
> Total tragic.
>
>
> ----- PVODN ZPRVA -----
> Od: "uvtreith" <uvtreith@t-online.de>
> Komu: europa-list@matronics.com
> Pedmt: AW: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
> Datum: 16.9.2009 - 15:34:30
>
> > The owner and pilot was Jiri Vicharek from CZ and his
> > Canadian friend.
> > I flew with him once and he was a good pilot and a
> > very nice person.
> > The plane was a Europa Xs Monowheel with Rotax 914T
> > and Airmaster Prop and
> > based at Benisov /CZ
> > According to my information they were coming in bad
> > weather conditions and
> > tried to land somewhere (airfield Schngleina).
> > They crashed in the surrounding forest.
> > Jiri was married and has had 3 children.
> > I am very sad about this,
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im
> > Auftrag von bbwebbase
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. September 2009 14:30
> > An: europa-list@matronics.com
> > Betreff: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
> >
> > <alexander_rodriguez@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> http://www.da-imnetz.de/nachrichten/deutschland/zwei-tote-nach-absturz-eines
> > > -kleinflugzeuges-467770.html
> >
> >
> http://jenanews.de/index.php/nachrichten/polizeibericht/53-nachrichten/2481-
> > > flugzeugabsturz-bei-jena
> >
> > It appears as if the plane was circling before disappearing
> > on 15.9.2010 at
> > 19:20. The two male passengers were on their way from
> > Holland (Texel Fly-Inn
> > ?) to CZ.
> >
> > Gives me the chills every time and I feel sad for the
> > two, their families
> > and friends.
> >
> > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org <http://www.europaowners.org/>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:04:09 AM PST US
> Subject: Europa-List: test
> From: standa.svec@volny.cz
>
>
> Test
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:15:02 AM PST US
> From: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
>
>
> Please let the rest of the group know when the cause of this tragic
> accident is confirmed.
> My sincere condolences to the families.
> Jeff R.
> A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush... Wishing for an improved forecast for Rough
> River
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2009, at 9:46 AM, standa.svec@volny.cz wrote:
>
> >
> > The other victim was not his Canadien friend, but his brother with
> > Canadien
> > citizenship.
> > His brother was also married and has had 3 children, too ... .
> > Total tragic.
> >
> >
> > ----- PVODN ZPRVA -----
> > Od: "uvtreith" <uvtreith@t-online.de>
> > Komu: europa-list@matronics.com
> > Pedmt: AW: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
> > Datum: 16.9.2009 - 15:34:30
> >
> >> The owner and pilot was Jiri Vicharek from CZ and his
> >> Canadian friend.
> >> I flew with him once and he was a good pilot and a
> >> very nice person.
> >> The plane was a Europa Xs Monowheel with Rotax 914T
> >> and Airmaster Prop and
> >> based at Benisov /CZ
> >> According to my information they were coming in bad
> >> weather conditions and
> >> tried to land somewhere (airfield Schngleina).
> >> They crashed in the surrounding forest.
> >> Jiri was married and has had 3 children.
> >> I am very sad about this,
> >> Bruno
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im
> >> Auftrag von bbwebbase
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. September 2009 14:30
> >> An: europa-list@matronics.com
> >> Betreff: Europa-List: Europa Accident in Germany
> >>
> >> <alexander_rodriguez@yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> http://www.da-imnetz.de/nachrichten/deutschland/zwei-tote-nach-
> >> absturz-eines
> >>> -kleinflugzeuges-467770.html
> >>
> >> http://jenanews.de/index.php/nachrichten/polizeibericht/53-
> >> nachrichten/2481-
> >>> flugzeugabsturz-bei-jena
> >>
> >> It appears as if the plane was circling before disappearing
> >> on 15.9.2010 at
> >> 19:20. The two male passengers were on their way from
> >> Holland (Texel Fly-Inn
> >> ?) to CZ.
> >>
> >> Gives me the chills every time and I feel sad for the
> >> two, their families
> >> and friends.
> >>
> >> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org <http://www.europaowners.org/>
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:44:45 PM PST US
> From: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH
>
> Hi Steve et al,
> I can't make tomorrow. I had decided on Gloucester for Friday 18th -
> it's a bit unusual to get a free landing there. Can you make that?
> All the best, Paddy
> On 16 Sep 2009, at 12:25, Steven Pitt wrote:
>
> > <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
> >
> > Anyone for a DOTH tomorrow Thursday 16th. Flyer has Seething,
> > Tibbenham and Gloucestershire whilst LAA has Lands End and Bagby (a
> > bit further afield). I have not been to anyone of them so have no
> > idea about their bacon butties.
> > Regards
> > Steve Pitt
> > G-SMDH
> >
> >
>
> Paddy Clarke
> Europa G-KIMM
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:20:20 PM PST US
> From: "mike gamble" <mp.gamble@tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Registration letters
>
>
> Lower surface of port wing Paul.
> Full details at caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP523.pdf
> Are you going for stick on vinyl letters? Do you have a reliable source for
> these as I am also ready to get some for my mono.
> Regards
> Mike Gamble
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:22:36 PM PST US
> From: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH
>
> Paddy,
> Ok Friday it is. 12.00ish as usual?
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paddy Clarke
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH
>
>
> Hi Steve et al,
> I can't make tomorrow. I had decided on Gloucester for Friday 18th -
> it's a bit unusual to get a free landing there. Can you make that?
> All the best, Paddy
>
> On 16 Sep 2009, at 12:25, Steven Pitt wrote:
>
>
> <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
>
>
> Anyone for a DOTH tomorrow Thursday 16th. Flyer has Seething,
> Tibbenham and Gloucestershire whilst LAA has Lands End and Bagby (a bit
> further afield). I have not been to anyone of them so have no idea about
> their bacon butties.
> Regards
> Steve Pitt
> G-SMDH
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> Europa G-KIMM
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:49:46 PM PST US
> From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: texel fly-in
>
>
> At 2009-09-15 12:49 +0100 Rowland Carson wrote:
>
> >I've added a sub-album entitled "Texel 2009-09 in G-BZTH" and put
> >some of my pictures there
>
> To anyone who was looking for those pictures, Steve (I assume) has
> made a new top-level album called "Europa Gatherings and DOTHs" and
> my sub-album is now in there.
>
> If you're not sure about how to get to the EuropaOwners Gallery, here
> are the full instructions:
>
> In your browser (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Google Chrome or
> whatever) enter the following in the URL entry box:
>
> http://www.europaowners.org/index.php
>
> When the page opens, click on the "Gallery" icon at the top.
>
> When the next page opens, click on the top album in the list:
>
> "Europa Gatherings and DOTHs"
>
> You should now see (among others) the sub-album called "Texel 2009-09
> in G-BZTH", so click on that to see a list of photo thumbnails. The
> individual photos can be examined in more detail (2 successive
> levels) by clicking on the thumbnails.
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wire and Cable Sources in US? |
ACS is fine if you need to pay full retail, but, for my money I have consistently
found great deals on wire and cable at SkyCraft.com
It is a great source of military and industrial surplus from the Florida aerospace
industry. It is best to visit in person. They have a whole room for just
mil-spec wire, but you can order by phone.
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263593#263593
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| Subject: | Weather Won't Cooperate |
Jeff - any decision being made about the weekend? I was planning on flying in from
Pennsylvania but it does looks grim -
Gary Leinberger
A237
________________________________________
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Jeff B [topglock@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weather Won't Cooperate
Jeff and all,
Looks like Mary and I may have to cancel, too. Might be able to thread
our way in, but Sunday looks really bad. Gonna miss the crowd, but
there's always next year...
Jeff - Baby Blue
JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>
> Bob and all,
> We are in the same boat... literally. We've had 4 inches of rain in the
> last 24 hours and more to come all weekend. I believe we're the closest
> to Rough River and this front isn't going anywhere. There is rain
> forecast and IFR all weekend into next week here. I will be driving up
> but I doubt there could be anyone flying in by the forecast I'm getting.
> Dare we consider canceling and trying for another soon to be nice
> weekend. I'm sure the fly-in / drive in attendance will be low because
> of this weather.
> Jeff R.
> A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Bob Borger wrote:
>
>>
>> U.S. Europaphiles,
>>
>> I'm afraid that we must cancel our trip to the U.S. Europa Fly-In at
>> Rough River.
>>
>> The weather refuses to cooperate. We have had over 2 weeks of solid
>> IFR here in North Texas and it's not going to improve before Sunday.
>> I have been unable to fly The Little Dragon Lady at all so it's still
>> at 15 hours. I was going to rent a DA-20 or Remos from the local
>> flight school
>> but the weather between here and 2I3 is forecast to be IFR through
>> Sunday.
>>
>> My best regards to all who make it. We hope to see you at KOSH and
>> other fly-in gatherings over the next year.
>>
>> Check six,
>> Bob Borger
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wire and Cable Sources in US? |
Ron & Ira,
Thanks for the responses!
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
To: Europa
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wire and Cable Sources in US?
Hi Dan
Anyone have any wiring and antenna cable supplier sources in the US
that they have been happy with?"
As Bob Mentioned ACS and B+C are good sources.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/index.html
http://www.bandc.biz/index.aspx
Steinair is cheapier on many things with an OK website for ordering,
good at answering my "MANY" questions:
http://www.steinair.com/
Eric has aluminium wire with copper clad (Stein sells some also from
Eric) and aluminium clad antenna wire (light but hard to terminate) and
wig wags and other good stuff:
http://www.periheliondesign.com./
Other:
http://www.wicksaircraft.com/
http://www.gca.aero/default.asp
http://www.safeair1.com/index.htm
http://order.waytekwire.com/cgi-bin/lansaweb?procfun+wordpr01+webfunc+M37
+FUNCPARMS+WEBCMP(S0020):01+WEBID(S0020):01
Also biggies:
Digikey
Mouser
Newark
and don't forget my favorite company on planet earth:
McMaster Carr!
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Won't Cooperate |
At this point my plans are to drive up Saturday AM. I don't know who
all is driving in or attempting flying in. If we could change things
for better flying weather I would vote for that but it may be too late.
Has anyone called the resort to see if it's possible for credit? I
would think there would be rooms available as the season winds down. If
not I'll be looking forward to seeing everyone Saturday and a few beers
Saturday night.
Regards,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush
On Sep 17, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Gary Leinberger wrote:
> <Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu>
>
> Jeff - any decision being made about the weekend? I was planning on
> flying in from Pennsylvania but it does looks grim -
>
>
> Gary Leinberger
> A237
> ________________________________________
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff B
> [topglock@cox.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:27 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weather Won't Cooperate
>
>
> Jeff and all,
>
> Looks like Mary and I may have to cancel, too. Might be able to thread
> our way in, but Sunday looks really bad. Gonna miss the crowd, but
> there's always next year...
>
> Jeff - Baby Blue
>
> JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>>
>> Bob and all,
>> We are in the same boat... literally. We've had 4 inches of rain in
>> the
>> last 24 hours and more to come all weekend. I believe we're the
>> closest
>> to Rough River and this front isn't going anywhere. There is rain
>> forecast and IFR all weekend into next week here. I will be driving up
>> but I doubt there could be anyone flying in by the forecast I'm
>> getting.
>> Dare we consider canceling and trying for another soon to be nice
>> weekend. I'm sure the fly-in / drive in attendance will be low because
>> of this weather.
>> Jeff R.
>> A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Bob Borger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> U.S. Europaphiles,
>>>
>>> I'm afraid that we must cancel our trip to the U.S. Europa Fly-In at
>>> Rough River.
>>>
>>> The weather refuses to cooperate. We have had over 2 weeks of solid
>>> IFR here in North Texas and it's not going to improve before Sunday.
>>> I have been unable to fly The Little Dragon Lady at all so it's still
>>> at 15 hours. I was going to rent a DA-20 or Remos from the local
>>> flight school
>>> but the weather between here and 2I3 is forecast to be IFR through
>>> Sunday.
>>>
>>> My best regards to all who make it. We hope to see you at KOSH and
>>> other fly-in gatherings over the next year.
>>>
>>> Check six,
>>> Bob Borger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>>
>>
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Won't Cooperate |
Hi All,
Well I have just finished watching the 10.00pm edition of the Weather
Channel and it doesn't look too great. I had planned on flying down
in a rented Cherokee, but I am not prepared to fly an un familiar
aircraft IFR. I'll check the TAF's tomorrow.
I don't really want to call the event off, after all , for the people
driving in I can think of worse things to do than sitting around
drinking beer with a bunch of people and telling lies about
airplanes.
Paul
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