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1. 01:45 AM - Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Raimo Toivio)
2. 02:12 AM - Re: Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Raimo Toivio)
3. 02:42 AM - Europa Accident in Germany (Remi Guerner)
4. 04:45 AM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Mono_Inner_Tyre_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Failures? (Carl Pattinson)
5. 06:43 AM - Re: Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Robert Borger)
6. 10:17 AM - Re: Weather Won't Cooperate for Bud either (Bud Yerly)
7. 11:29 AM - Rough River Weather (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
8. 11:56 AM - Re: Rough River Weather (JEFF ROBERTS)
9. 01:24 PM - Re: Weather Won't Cooperate (Jeff B)
10. 03:03 PM - Re: Rough River Weather (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
11. 03:45 PM - Bureaucracy (p-a.austin)
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| Subject: | Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
Terve!
I cannot accept this! It should not be a part of our life we live (and
fly) nowadays !
Landing with empty tyre could hurt seriously in the worst case scenario.
There must be something to prevent this happening so often or even
better - never!
I used also talcum powder and now the whole plane smells roses (I asked
powder with jet fuel smell but they have not!).
What=B4s your tire pressure, Paul? I have used always 2,2 PSI = 2,4
kg/cm2 (that=B4s about double they recommend).
BTW it is easy to check: in my case 2,2 PSI equals 162 mm = 6,38" from
the asphalt surface to the lowest point of the main axle (port side).
That is a poor man=B4s Mono Main Tyre=B4s Pressure Gauge.
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
<paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Hi,
I have this happen regularly. I now just change them every 100 hours
and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I
have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
much improvement.
The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
such low pressure.
Paul
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
wrote:
> All
>
> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
> Monowheel.
>
> Loosing suddenly main gear=B4s air pressure is not a funny game and
did not
> make my day actually.
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| Subject: | Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
I made a mistake w pressure units - sorry:
1 bar = 10 N/cm2 = (about) 1 kp/cm2 = 1 kg/cm2.
1 PSI = pound/inc2 = 0,454 kg/6,45 cm2 = 0,07 bar
1 bar = 14,3 PSI.
Raimo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: (SPAM) Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Terve!
I cannot accept this! It should not be a part of our life we live (and fly) nowadays
!
Landing with empty tyre could hurt seriously in the worst case scenario.
There must be something to prevent this happening so often or even better - never!
I used also talcum powder and now the whole plane smells roses (I asked powder
with jet fuel smell but they have not!).
Whats your tire pressure, Paul? I have used always 2,2 PSI = 2,4 kg/cm2 (thats
about double they recommend).
BTW it is easy to check: in my case 2,2 PSI equals 162 mm = 6,38" from the asphalt
surface to the lowest point of the main axle (port side). That is a poor mans
Mono Main Tyres Pressure Gauge.
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Hi,
I have this happen regularly. I now just change them every 100 hours
and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I
have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
much improvement.
The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
such low pressure.
Paul
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> wrote:
> All
>
> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
> Monowheel.
>
> Loosing suddenly main gears air pressure is not a funny game and did not
> make my day actually.
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| Subject: | Europa Accident in Germany |
You are right Karel, there are too many accidents caused by pushing the
weather due to "get-home-itis". We must keep in mind that our little
airplanes are not designed for that and most of us (at least in Europe)
are VFR pilots only.
I met Jiri/Georges at the RSA fly-in in Vichy two years ago and had a
short flight with him, as he wanted to have my own feeling on the
vibration level of his Europa Monowheel OK-EXS.
A very nice guy. I will miss him. My thoughts go to his young family.
Remi Guerner
<<<<<<Nowadays we can get good meteo information. Let us take a lesson
out of this accident. We are good weather pilots and fly in only VFR
conditions with our small airplanes.
Nevertheless, I am very sad for what happened to the brothers Vicharek,
and
hope some one will bring my condoleances to their families.
Karel Vranken.>>>>>>>
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| Subject: | =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Mono_Inner_Tyre_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Failures? |
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Very easy solution - its called "slime". No more flat tyres.
http://www.slime.com/index.php
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Terve!
I cannot accept this! It should not be a part of our life we live (and fly)
nowadays !
Landing with empty tyre could hurt seriously in the worst case scenario.
There must be something to prevent this happening so often or even better -
never!
I used also talcum powder and now the whole plane smells roses (I asked
powder with jet fuel smell but they have not!).
Whats your tire pressure, Paul? I have used always 2,2 PSI = 2,4 kg/cm2
(thats about double they recommend).
BTW it is easy to check: in my case 2,2 PSI equals 162 mm = 6,38" from the
asphalt surface to the lowest point of the main axle (port side). That is a
poor mans Mono Main Tyres Pressure Gauge.
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
<paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Hi,
I have this happen regularly. I now just change them every 100 hours
and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I
have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
much improvement.
The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
such low pressure.
Paul
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> wrote:
> All
>
> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
> Monowheel.
>
> Loosing suddenly main gears air pressure is not a funny game and did not
> make my day actually.
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
Carl,
Please explain further for our European friends who are probably not
aware of the product.
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Sep 18, 2009, at 6:35, Carl Pattinson wrote:
> >
>
> Very easy solution - its called "slime". No more flat tyres.
>
> http://www.slime.com/index.php
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raimo Toivio"
> <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>
>
> Terve!
>
> I cannot accept this! It should not be a part of our life we live
> (and fly) nowadays !
> Landing with empty tyre could hurt seriously in the worst case
> scenario.
>
> There must be something to prevent this happening so often or even
> better - never!
>
> I used also talcum powder and now the whole plane smells roses (I
> asked powder with jet fuel smell but they have not!).
>
> Whats your tire pressure, Paul? I have used always 2,2 PSI = 2,4
> kg/cm2 (thats about double they recommend).
>
> BTW it is easy to check: in my case 2,2 PSI equals 162 mm = 6,38"
> from the asphalt surface to the lowest point of the main axle (port
> side). That is a poor mans Mono Main Tyres Pressure Gauge.
>
> Raimo OH-XRT
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
> >
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>
>
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> I have this happen regularly. I now just change them every 100 hours
> and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I
> have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
> much improvement.
>
> The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
> such low pressure.
>
> Paul
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
> wrote:
>> All
>>
>> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
>> Monowheel.
>>
>> Loosing suddenly main gears air pressure is not a funny game and
>> did not
>> make my day actually.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Won't Cooperate for Bud either |
The Weather Saga Continues.
Homer Baker and I were looking to fly in, but that was dashed earlier by
the weather and our VFR planes.
My driving plans are now significantly impacted as continued rain in the
Tampa Area has put my house repairs behind. (Long story, but house
flooded and is being restored slowly.) I have contractors working
through this weekend on errors and quality problems and I need to be
present. We have water today, and just need toilets set and the,
dishwasher, washing machine and the oh so important filtered water on
the fridge, back up and running for the wife. Should be done tonight.
So driving is out now.
Unfortunately, it looks like their will only be a few Europa owners now
due to weather, and to add to the insult, now I'm not bringing beer.
That sucks.
I have left a message for Dave Conrad that I'll cover my share of the
room.
Sorry to duck out guys,
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul McAllister<mailto:paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weather Won't Cooperate
<paul.the.aviator@gmail.com<mailto:paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>>
Hi All,
Well I have just finished watching the 10.00pm edition of the Weather
Channel and it doesn't look too great. I had planned on flying down
in a rented Cherokee, but I am not prepared to fly an un familiar
aircraft IFR. I'll check the TAF's tomorrow.
I don't really want to call the event off, after all , for the people
driving in I can think of worse things to do than sitting around
drinking beer with a bunch of people and telling lies about
airplanes.
Paul
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List<http://www.matronics.com/N
avigator?Europa-List>
http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi
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| Subject: | Rough River Weather |
Lynne and I drove in and arrived about 4:00 PM.=C2- Local wx is broken, c
loud cover about 50%, no rain and about 75 degrees.=C2- There are a few a
irplanes at the strip, but no Europas.=C2- Peter and Susan Jeffers are he
re, bt we don't know if any of the remainder are in yet.=C2- We have a ca
se of beer, peanuts, cheese, and wine, so anyone who drives in will be well
taken care of.=C2- They have also installed wireless internet in the lod
ge so communication is much easier.=C2- Hope some others show up.
Jim Puglise=C2-A-283=C2-=C2-=C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Rough River Weather |
Jim,
I will see you all tomorrow. If the weather clears down here (Not in
the forcast) I will fly in. If not I'm driving up so I wouldn't get
there till the afternoon. I will also bring wine & beer. I guess we can
have some fun if we can't fly!
Regards,
Jeff Roberts
Eagleville TN 37060
615-355-7575 Office
615-406-8651 Cell
615-534-1082 Fax
On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:27 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote:
> Lynne and I drove in and arrived about 4:00 PM. Local wx is broken,
> cloud cover about 50%, no rain and about 75 degrees. There are a few
> airplanes at the strip, but no Europas. Peter and Susan Jeffers are
> here, bt we don't know if any of the remainder are in yet. We have a
> case of beer, peanuts, cheese, and wine, so anyone who drives in will
> be well taken care of. They have also installed wireless internet in
> the lodge so communication is much easier. Hope some others show up.
>
> Jim PugliseA-283
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weather Won't Cooperate |
Gary,
Mary and I have canceled our reservations. We're socked it, here.
Don't know of any "official" cancellation of the event, though...
Jeff - Baby Blue
Gary Leinberger wrote:
>
> Jeff - any decision being made about the weekend? I was planning on flying in
from Pennsylvania but it does looks grim -
>
>
> Gary Leinberger
> A237
> ________________________________________
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Jeff B [topglock@cox.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:27 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Weather Won't Cooperate
>
>
> Jeff and all,
>
> Looks like Mary and I may have to cancel, too. Might be able to thread
> our way in, but Sunday looks really bad. Gonna miss the crowd, but
> there's always next year...
>
> Jeff - Baby Blue
>
> JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>>
>> Bob and all,
>> We are in the same boat... literally. We've had 4 inches of rain in the
>> last 24 hours and more to come all weekend. I believe we're the closest
>> to Rough River and this front isn't going anywhere. There is rain
>> forecast and IFR all weekend into next week here. I will be driving up
>> but I doubt there could be anyone flying in by the forecast I'm getting.
>> Dare we consider canceling and trying for another soon to be nice
>> weekend. I'm sure the fly-in / drive in attendance will be low because
>> of this weather.
>> Jeff R.
>> A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Bob Borger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> U.S. Europaphiles,
>>>
>>> I'm afraid that we must cancel our trip to the U.S. Europa Fly-In at
>>> Rough River.
>>>
>>> The weather refuses to cooperate. We have had over 2 weeks of solid
>>> IFR here in North Texas and it's not going to improve before Sunday.
>>> I have been unable to fly The Little Dragon Lady at all so it's still
>>> at 15 hours. I was going to rent a DA-20 or Remos from the local
>>> flight school
>>> but the weather between here and 2I3 is forecast to be IFR through
>>> Sunday.
>>>
>>> My best regards to all who make it. We hope to see you at KOSH and
>>> other fly-in gatherings over the next year.
>>>
>>> Check six,
>>> Bob Borger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Rough River Weather |
Jeff-
The EAA group here has invited us to their dinner tomorrow night, so I will
have them hold 2 more places.=C2- Currently, clouds are about 50% cover
and bases are about 2500 AGL.=C2- Actually a pretty nice day.=C2- It is
5:00 -- off to the cocktail hour.=C2- Don't worry about beer and eats, w
e have it covered.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "JEFF ROBERTS" <jeff@rmmm.net>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:55:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rough River Weather
Jim,
I will see you all tomorrow. If the weather clears down here (Not in =C2-
the forcast) I will fly in. If not I'm driving up so I wouldn't get =C2-
there till the afternoon. I will also bring wine & beer. I guess we can =C2
-
have some fun if we can't fly!
Regards,
Jeff Roberts
Eagleville TN 37060
615-355-7575 Office
615-406-8651 Cell
615-534-1082 Fax
On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:27 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote:
> Lynne and I drove in and arrived about 4:00 PM.=C2- Local wx is broken,
=C2-
> cloud cover about 50%, no rain and about 75 degrees.=C2- There are a fe
w =C2-
> airplanes at the strip, but no Europas.=C2- Peter and Susan Jeffers are
=C2-
> here, bt we don't know if any of the remainder are in yet.=C2- We have
a =C2-
> case of beer, peanuts, cheese, and wine, so anyone who drives in will =C2
-
> be well taken care of.=C2- They have also installed wireless internet i
n =C2-
> the lodge so communication is much easier.=C2- Hope some others show up
.
> =C2-
> Jim Puglise=C2-A-283=C2-=C2-=C2-
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>Bob Harrison wrote
Since I abhor bureaucracy I will in future be showering them with faxes and
> saving otherwise unnecessary, time inconvenient and landing costs.
Bob,
You are letting them get to you and putting to risk your health,
stress-wise!
Below I have compiled a comprehensive List of why in modern society we must
have and in fact NEED Bureacracy. I'm sure this will go someway in bringing
understanding and contemptment to your life.
1)
Regards Peter
ZK-ZEB
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