---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/19/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:27 AM - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mono_Inner_Tyre_Failures? (Carl Pattinson) 2. 06:35 AM - Re: Re: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (pjeffers@talktalk.net) 3. 11:50 AM - Re: Rough River Weather (JEFF ROBERTS) 4. 12:53 PM - Re: Rough River Weather (JEFF ROBERTS) 5. 06:16 PM - Re: Rough River Weather (Robert Borger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:55 AM PST US From: "Carl Pattinson" Subject: Europa-List: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_Re=3A_Europa-List=3A_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mono_Inner_Tyre_Failures? X-mailer: iAVMailScanner 1.5.7.1 SLIME is simply a tyre sealant which coats the inside of the tyre or inner tube with a viscous compound which seals any punctures that occur. Its intended as an emergency repair but I have used it in my car for a few years. You have to be careful with car usage as it can throw out the wheel balance but in the Europa, it doesent matter if the wheel is out of balance. Available for tubed or tubeless tyres it contains rubber granules which combine with the sealant to fill in any punctures - it will cope with nail size holes without problem. When there is a puncture it oozes from the hole leaving a fluorescent trail so that you know you have a problem. Slime is a trade name but there are other makes available which are no doubt just as effective. I looked on their site and they have an European catalog so I assume it is available worldwide. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Borger" Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:29 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures > > > Carl, > > Please explain further for our European friends who are probably not > aware of the product. > > Bob Borger > Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S > http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL > Aircraft Flying! > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208 > Home: 940-497-2123 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > > > On Sep 18, 2009, at 6:35, Carl Pattinson wrote: > >> > > >> >> Very easy solution - its called "slime". No more flat tyres. >> >> http://www.slime.com/index.php >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raimo Toivio" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:56 AM >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures >> >> >> Terve! >> >> I cannot accept this! It should not be a part of our life we live (and >> fly) nowadays ! >> Landing with empty tyre could hurt seriously in the worst case scenario. >> >> There must be something to prevent this happening so often or even >> better - never! >> >> I used also talcum powder and now the whole plane smells roses (I asked >> powder with jet fuel smell but they have not!). >> >> Whats your tire pressure, Paul? I have used always 2,2 PSI = 2,4 >> kg/cm2 (thats about double they recommend). >> >> BTW it is easy to check: in my case 2,2 PSI equals 162 mm = 6,38" from >> the asphalt surface to the lowest point of the main axle (port side). >> That is a poor mans Mono Main Tyres Pressure Gauge. >> >> Raimo OH-XRT >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" >> > > >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:32 PM >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures >> >> >> > > >> >> Hi, >> >> I have this happen regularly. I now just change them every 100 hours >> and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I >> have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out >> much improvement. >> >> The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running >> such low pressure. >> >> Paul >> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio >> wrote: >>> All >>> >>> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my >>> Monowheel. >>> >>> Loosing suddenly main gears air pressure is not a funny game and did >>> not >>> make my day actually. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> No viruses found in this incoming message >> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1 >> http://www.iolo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> No viruses found in this outgoing message >> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1 >> http://www.iolo.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1 http://www.iolo.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures From: pjeffers@talktalk.net inside of the tyre or inner =0Atube with a viscous compound which seals any punctures that occur.=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=0AIts intended as an emergency repair but I have used it in my car for a few =0Ayears. You have to be careful with car usage as it can throw out the wheel =0Abalance but in the Europa, it doesent matter if the wheel is out of balance.=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=0AAvailable for tubed or tubeless tyres it contains rubber granules which =0Acombine with the sealant to fill in any punctures - it will cope with nail =0Asize holes without problem. When there is a puncture it oozes from the hole =0Aleaving a fluorescent trail so that you know you have a problem.=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=0ASlime is a trade name but there are other makes ava ailures=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> Terve!=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> I cannot accept this! It should not be a part of our life we live (and =0A>> fly) nowadays !=C2-=0A=0A>> Landing with empty tyre could hurt seriously in the worst case scenario.=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> There must be something to prevent this happening so often or even =0A>> better - never!=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> I used also talcum powder and now the whole plane smells roses (I asked =0A>> powder with jet fuel smell but they have not!).=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> What=C2=B4s your tire pressure, Paul? I have used always 2,2 PSI = 2,4 =0A>> kg/cm2 (that=C2=B4s about double they recommend).=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> BTW it is easy to check: in my case 2,2 PSI equ 0travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I=C2-=0A=0A>> have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out=C2-=0A=0A>> much improvement.=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running=C2-=0A=0A>> such low pressure.=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> Paul=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio =0A>> wrote:=C2-=0A=0A>>> All=C2-=0A=0A>>>=C2-=0A=0A>>> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my=C2-=0A=0A>>> Monowheel.=C2-=0A=0A>>>=C2-=0A=0A>>> Loosing suddenly main gear=C2=B4s air pressure is not a funny game and did =0A>>> not=C2-=0A=0A>>> make my day actually.=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A =0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> _______________________________________=C2-=0A=0A>> No viruses found in this incoming message=C2-=0A=0A>> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1=C2-=0A=0A>> http://www.iolo.com=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>> _______________________________________=C2-=0A=0A>> No viruses found in this outgoing message=C2-=0A=0A>> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1=C2-=0A=0A>> http://www.iolo.com=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>>=C2-=0A=0A>=C2-=0A=0A>=C2-=0A=0A>=C2-=0A=0A>=C2-=0A=0A>=C2-=0A=0A>=C2-=0A=0A>=C2-=0A=0A>=C2-=0A=0A>=C2-=0A=0A> _______________________________________=C2-=0A=0A> No viruses found in this incoming message=C2-=0A=0A> Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.7.1=C2-=0A=0A> http://www.iolo.com=C2-=0A=0A> =C2-=0A=0A=0A___________________________ D=================================================C2-=0A=C2-=0A=0A=C2-=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:51 AM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rough River Weather Jim & All, It just seems like this wasn't meant to happen for me either. My wife came home from watching out grandkids the other day not feeling well. She's fine now but last night it started on me. Hoping today would be better I felt pretty good other than some sniffles. As the weather here seem to improve and it looked like I may be able to get thru I took off in Gold Rush just before 11:a. I made it to almost the KY line north of Nashville when the ceilings got too low. A few holes got me on top only to find some cumulus just north in my way. I don't have on board XM weather so I decided to come back down and 180 back. Showers to my west at that point and a small one to my east made me realize I needed to get my speed up and scamper back home to TN14. Gold Rush is back on the ground and in my den and I'm happy to be here as well. I guess we to will have to wait till next year. Have some fun up there for us. Maybe us flyers could find another good weekend before years end to meet. What we need is a DOTH place here as well. After all we are fair weather folks. I'm going to include here two pictures of our new runway. These photos were taken from my property. We have finally finished the grading of the dirt between my 900 feet of green runway and my friends 2700 feet TN14. By spring or maybe even before we will have the longest grass runway in Tennessee. ;O) Yippee!! Over 4 thousand feet. She's crowned and is perfectly level. Other than building Gold Rush this has been one of the best projects I've ever been a part of. (That disclaimer protects me from my wife and kids ;o) Anyway one day I would like to invite you all here for some camping and fun. We are right in the middle of the country so it might work out well. The hanger / Home is a work in progress. Best Regards, Jeff R. A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush On Sep 18, 2009, at 4:59 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > Jeff- > - > The EAA group here has invited us to their dinner tomorrow night, so I > will have them hold 2 more places.- Currently, clouds are about 50% > cover and bases are about 2500 AGL.- Actually a pretty nice day.- It > is 5:00 -- off to the cocktail hour.- Don't worry about beer and eats, > we have it covered. > - > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JEFF ROBERTS" > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:55:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada > Eastern > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rough River Weather > > > Jim, > I will see you all tomorrow. If the weather clears down here (Not in - > the forcast) I will fly in. If not I'm driving up so I wouldn't get - > there till the afternoon. I will also bring wine & beer. I guess we > can - > have some fun if we can't fly! > Regards, > > Jeff Roberts > Eagleville TN 37060 > > 615-355-7575 Office > 615-406-8651 Cell > 615-534-1082 Fax > > > On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:27 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > > > Lynne and I drove in and arrived about 4:00 PM.- Local wx is broken, > - > > cloud cover about 50%, no rain and about 75 degrees.- There are a > few - > > airplanes at the strip, but no Europas.- Peter and Susan Jeffers are > - > > here, bt we don't know if any of the remainder are in yet.- We have > a - > > case of beer, peanuts, cheese, and wine, so anyone who drives in > will - > > be well taken care of.- They have also installed wireless internet > in - > > the lodge so communication is much easier.- Hope some others show up. > > - > > Jim Puglise-A-283--- > > > > _- > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > _- > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > _- > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > _- > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D====== ================= > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:53:17 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rough River Weather Jim, I sent this once earlier but it didn't go thru. My pictures we're too large I think. Anyway... Weather improved here and it looked like I may be able to scoot up before the afternoon rains started. I tried to fly gold rush up at 10:30a but I hit low ceilings north of Nashville by the KY border. I climbed up thru a hole only to see some cums to my north in my path. As I was coming down thru a shrinking hole I did a 180 and headed back. To my east was rain and the west was more. I quickly pushed her back home and am safe in my man cave / hanger. It's now pouring outside here. I need WX weather and I probably would have made it. I'm fighting a head cold as well so I've succumbed to the idea that I wont be coming. Maybe we all need to start our own DOTH to somewhere here in the states. FYI we just seeded the last piece of runway that will connect my 900 feet to another 2700 foot runway my friend owns for a total of over 4,000 feet usable. It's more than we'll need but it's sure a nice safety cushion. Here is a few pictures. This has been one of the best projects I've ever got myself into. Lots of work but lots of fun. Nothing like a cold one at the end of a long day in the heat. Maybe one day we can have everyone in here for a camp out and some fun. Sure wish I was there. Best Regards, Jeff R. A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush On Sep 18, 2009, at 4:59 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > Jeff- > - > The EAA group here has invited us to their dinner tomorrow night, so I > will have them hold 2 more places.- Currently, clouds are about 50% > cover and bases are about 2500 AGL.- Actually a pretty nice day.- It > is 5:00 -- off to the cocktail hour.- Don't worry about beer and eats, > we have it covered. > - > Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JEFF ROBERTS" > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:55:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada > Eastern > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rough River Weather > > > Jim, > I will see you all tomorrow. If the weather clears down here (Not in - > the forcast) I will fly in. If not I'm driving up so I wouldn't get - > there till the afternoon. I will also bring wine & beer. I guess we > can - > have some fun if we can't fly! > Regards, > > Jeff Roberts > Eagleville TN 37060 > > 615-355-7575 Office > 615-406-8651 Cell > 615-534-1082 Fax > > > On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:27 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > > > Lynne and I drove in and arrived about 4:00 PM.- Local wx is broken, > - > > cloud cover about 50%, no rain and about 75 degrees.- There are a > few - > > airplanes at the strip, but no Europas.- Peter and Susan Jeffers are > - > > here, bt we don't know if any of the remainder are in yet.- We have > a - > > case of beer, peanuts, cheese, and wine, so anyone who drives in > will - > > be well taken care of.- They have also installed wireless internet > in - > > the lodge so communication is much easier.- Hope some others show up. > > - > > Jim Puglise-A-283--- > > > > _- > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > _- > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > _- > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > _- > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 > > > D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D====== ================= > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:13 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rough River Weather Jeff, WOW, what a great setup you have there! 543 NM from KDTO. Fair distance for a DOTH, but worth a try (If I can ever get the 40 hrs flown off!). Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Aircraft Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Sep 19, 2009, at 14:27, JEFF ROBERTS wrote: > Jim, > I sent this once earlier but it didn't go thru. My pictures we're > too large I think. Anyway... Weather improved here and it looked > like I may be able to scoot up before the afternoon rains started. > I tried to fly gold rush up at 10:30a but I hit low ceilings north > of Nashville by the KY border. I climbed up thru a hole only to see > some cums to my north in my path. As I was coming down thru a > shrinking hole I did a 180 and headed back. To my east was rain and > the west was more. I quickly pushed her back home and am safe in my > man cave / hanger. It's now pouring outside here. I need WX weather > and I probably would have made it. > I'm fighting a head cold as well so I've succumbed to the idea that > I wont be coming. > > Maybe we all need to start our own DOTH to somewhere here in the > states. FYI we just seeded the last piece of runway that will > connect my 900 feet to another 2700 foot runway my friend owns for a > total of over 4,000 feet usable. It's more than we'll need but it's > sure a nice safety cushion. Here is a few pictures. This has been > one of the best projects I've ever got myself into. Lots of work but > lots of fun. Nothing like a cold one at the end of a long day in the > heat. Maybe one day we can have everyone in here for a camp out and > some fun. > Sure wish I was there. > Best Regards, > > Jeff R. > A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush > > > > > On Sep 18, 2009, at 4:59 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > >> Jeff- >> >> The EAA group here has invited us to their dinner tomorrow night, >> so I will have them hold 2 more places. Currently, clouds are >> about 50% cover and bases are about 2500 AGL. Actually a pretty >> nice day. It is 5:00 -- off to the cocktail hour. Don't worry >> about beer and eats, we have it covered. >> >> Jim >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "JEFF ROBERTS" >> To: europa-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:55:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada >> Eastern >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rough River Weather >> >> >> Jim, >> I will see you all tomorrow. If the weather clears down here (Not in >> the forcast) I will fly in. If not I'm driving up so I wouldn't get >> there till the afternoon. I will also bring wine & beer. I guess we >> can >> have some fun if we can't fly! >> Regards, >> >> Jeff Roberts >> Eagleville TN 37060 >> >> 615-355-7575 Office >> 615-406-8651 Cell >> 615-534-1082 Fax >> >> >> On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:27 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: >> >> > Lynne and I drove in and arrived about 4:00 PM. Local wx is >> broken, >> > cloud cover about 50%, no rain and about 75 degrees. There are a >> few >> > airplanes at the strip, but no Europas. Peter and Susan Jeffers >> are >> > here, bt we don't know if any of the remainder are in yet. We >> have a >> > case of beer, peanuts, cheese, and wine, so anyone who drives in >> will >> > be well taken care of. They have also installed wireless >> internet in >> > the lodge so communication is much easier. Hope some others show >> up. >> > >> > Jim Puglise A-283 >> > >> > _- >> > >> = >> 3D >> =======================3 >> > >> D >> = >> 3D====================== >> > 3D=========== >> > _- >> > >> = >> 3D >> =======================3 >> > >> D >> = >> 3D====================== >> > 3D=========== >> > _- >> > >> = >> 3D >> =======================3 >> > >> D >> = >> 3D====================== >> > 3D=========== >> > _- >> > >> = >> 3D >> =======================3 >> > >> D >> = >> 3D====================== >> > 3D================================= >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.