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1. 03:40 AM - Re: Re: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Raimo Toivio)
2. 04:39 AM - Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (craig bastin)
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Raimo Toivio)
4. 05:21 AM - Tyres - Slime (Roger Anderson)
5. 08:51 AM - Report from Rough River fly-in - Not (John & Paddy Wigney)
6. 11:10 AM - Re: Report from Rough River fly-in - Not (Jeff B)
7. 11:11 AM - Re: Re: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Robert C Harrison)
8. 12:55 PM - Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Jim Brown)
9. 01:05 PM - Requirements for registering an aircraft in France (Remi Guerner)
10. 01:50 PM - Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Garry)
11. 01:54 PM - Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Robert C Harrison)
12. 04:48 PM - Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures (Garry)
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
I did not know there are different sealants for tubed ja tubeless tyres!
I have once made my day (or in fact my summer) with this stuff but this time it
did not help.
Maybe it was wrong stuff for tubeless tyre types ?
Raimo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
SLIME is simply a tyre sealant which coats the inside of the tyre or inner
tube with a viscous compound which seals any punctures that occur.
Its intended as an emergency repair but I have used it in my car for a few
years. You have to be careful with car usage as it can throw out the wheel
balance but in the Europa, it doesent matter if the wheel is out of balance.
Available for tubed or tubeless tyres it contains rubber granules which
combine with the sealant to fill in any punctures - it will cope with nail
size holes without problem. When there is a puncture it oozes from the hole
leaving a fluorescent trail so that you know you have a problem.
Slime is a trade name but there are other makes available which are no doubt
just as effective.
I looked on their site and they have an European catalog so I assume it is
available worldwide.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Borger" <rlborger@mac.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>
>
> Carl,
>
> Please explain further for our European friends who are probably not
> aware of the product.
>
> Bob Borger
> Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
> http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
> Aircraft Flying!
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208
> Home: 940-497-2123
> Cel: 817-992-1117
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2009, at 6:35, Carl Pattinson wrote:
>
>> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk
>> >
>>
>> Very easy solution - its called "slime". No more flat tyres.
>>
>> http://www.slime.com/index.php
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>>
>>
>> Terve!
>>
>> I cannot accept this! It should not be a part of our life we live (and
>> fly) nowadays !
>> Landing with empty tyre could hurt seriously in the worst case scenario.
>>
>> There must be something to prevent this happening so often or even
>> better - never!
>>
>> I used also talcum powder and now the whole plane smells roses (I asked
>> powder with jet fuel smell but they have not!).
>>
>> Whats your tire pressure, Paul? I have used always 2,2 PSI = 2,4
>> kg/cm2 (thats about double they recommend).
>>
>> BTW it is easy to check: in my case 2,2 PSI equals 162 mm = 6,38" from
>> the asphalt surface to the lowest point of the main axle (port side).
>> That is a poor mans Mono Main Tyres Pressure Gauge.
>>
>> Raimo OH-XRT
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister"
>> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
>> >
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>>
>>
>> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
>> >
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have this happen regularly. I now just change them every 100 hours
>> and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I
>> have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
>> much improvement.
>>
>> The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
>> such low pressure.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
>> wrote:
>>> All
>>>
>>> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
>>> Monowheel.
>>>
>>> Loosing suddenly main gears air pressure is not a funny game and did
>>> not
>>> make my day actually.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
FWIW, in heavy transport, tyre pressures are vital in ensuring tyre life, a
tyre than underinflated
by as little as 10% can and does have its life shortened by as much as 95%,
due to excessive flexing
of the side walls causing overheating and delamination, which generally
results in total and complete
failure with little to no warning. No doubt some of you would have seen a
truck tyre explode on the
freeway for no apparent reason
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| Subject: | Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
OM XS Monowheel August 1998 Page 7-4:
- tyre pressure for correct inflation - 18 PSI (1,2 bar)
Is not that too flat?
I have used almost double (2,2 bar)
No landing or handling difficulties.
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:38 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
FWIW, in heavy transport, tyre pressures are vital in ensuring tyre
life, a tyre than underinflated
by as little as 10% can and does have its life shortened by as much as
95%, due to excessive flexing
of the side walls causing overheating and delamination, which
generally results in total and complete
failure with little to no warning. No doubt some of you would have
seen a truck tyre explode on the
freeway for no apparent reason
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Slime is available in the UK from the cycle department of Halfords, and
is supposed to be suitable for tube tyres.
Roger Anderson (G-BXTD)
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| Subject: | Report from Rough River fly-in - Not |
This was going to be our second trip to Rough River. Last year we had to
drive because of the tail-end bad weather from a hurricane and I was
determined to fly this time. A nice Garmin 396 in the cockpit with XM
weather now makes it easier to avoid poor weather. However, it was not
to be. A stalled front was hanging around Georgia, Tennessee and much of
the south east US. Heavy rain in North Carolina on Friday morning meant
that it was that long drive again, 9 hours.
The weather at Rough River turned out to be quite good on Friday and
Saturday and the Louisville EAA Chapter 110 held their 35^th annual
fly-in at the airport that weekend. There were about 40 planes there and
a good turnout. However - not one Europa aircraft. Who was there?
* Creighton Smith and Jim Woolnought (A036 Classic kit in progress -
has needed a lot of rework) from Brattleboro, Vermont - a really
long drive. They did bring some excellent New England Harpoon ale.
* Peter and Susan Jeffers from High Wycombe, UK (Europa G-BVIS)
stopping on the way to their place in Florida.
* Jim and Lynne Puglise (building) from Punta Gorda , Florida
* Chuck Rhoads (Europa N246CR) drove down from Louisville, Kentucky
* John and Paddy Wigney (Europa N262WF) from Mooresville, North
Carolina.
Paddy and I tried some golf on Saturday afternoon and the best I could
do on the par 3, 9 hole course was a 5! Paddy did better with a 4.
Despite the thin turnout of Europaphiles, we really enjoyed the
fellowship and meeting with the EAA 110 group and were welcomed to their
banquet at the lodge on Saturday night. Thanks to chapter President Don
Jeffries for their hospitality. Open bar, good food and we had an
interesting presentation from Mike Loehle talking about his company's
aircraft and coatings. http://www.loehle.com/index.htm . Also a lot of
nice door prizes. The drive home on Sunday had a lot more heavy rain.
Next year, EAA 110's fly-in weekend will be on 9.11.10 and 9.12.10 and
they welcome the Europas to join them. I heard that there will be a big
wedding at the lodge on the following weekend. So the suggestion is that
we have our gathering on the same weekend as EAA 110. Any comments? If
we settle on those days, it would be a good idea to make our
reservations accordingly. See http://parks.ky.gov/findparks/resortparks/rr/
Cheers, John
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| Subject: | Re: Report from Rough River fly-in - Not |
John,
Thanks for the update. Sounds like a good idea to hook up with EAA 110,
next year. Maybe we can encourage a few more Europa builds...
Jeff - Baby Blue
John & Paddy Wigney wrote:
> <johnwigney@windstream.net>
>
> This was going to be our second trip to Rough River. Last year we had to
> drive because of the tail-end bad weather from a hurricane and I was
> determined to fly this time. A nice Garmin 396 in the cockpit with XM
> weather now makes it easier to avoid poor weather. However, it was not
> to be. A stalled front was hanging around Georgia, Tennessee and much of
> the south east US. Heavy rain in North Carolina on Friday morning meant
> that it was that long drive again, 9 hours.
>
> The weather at Rough River turned out to be quite good on Friday and
> Saturday and the Louisville EAA Chapter 110 held their 35^th annual
> fly-in at the airport that weekend. There were about 40 planes there and
> a good turnout. However - not one Europa aircraft. Who was there?
>
> * Creighton Smith and Jim Woolnought (A036 Classic kit in progress -
> has needed a lot of rework) from Brattleboro, Vermont - a really
> long drive. They did bring some excellent New England Harpoon ale.
> * Peter and Susan Jeffers from High Wycombe, UK (Europa G-BVIS)
> stopping on the way to their place in Florida.
> * Jim and Lynne Puglise (building) from Punta Gorda , Florida
> * Chuck Rhoads (Europa N246CR) drove down from Louisville, Kentucky
> * John and Paddy Wigney (Europa N262WF) from Mooresville, North
> Carolina.
>
> Paddy and I tried some golf on Saturday afternoon and the best I could
> do on the par 3, 9 hole course was a 5! Paddy did better with a 4.
> Despite the thin turnout of Europaphiles, we really enjoyed the
> fellowship and meeting with the EAA 110 group and were welcomed to their
> banquet at the lodge on Saturday night. Thanks to chapter President Don
> Jeffries for their hospitality. Open bar, good food and we had an
> interesting presentation from Mike Loehle talking about his company's
> aircraft and coatings. http://www.loehle.com/index.htm . Also a lot of
> nice door prizes. The drive home on Sunday had a lot more heavy rain.
>
> Next year, EAA 110's fly-in weekend will be on 9.11.10 and 9.12.10 and
> they welcome the Europas to join them. I heard that there will be a big
> wedding at the lodge on the following weekend. So the suggestion is that
> we have our gathering on the same weekend as EAA 110. Any comments? If
> we settle on those days, it would be a good idea to make our
> reservations accordingly. See http://parks.ky.gov/findparks/resortparks/rr/
>
> Cheers, John
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
Raimo......IMHO the product which is being promoted is NOT for tubless tyres
utilizing a split wheel centre such an item does not exist because it is
impossible to seal the split centre. However there are products which when
inserted in the wheel/tyre which are in foam form and when exposed to air
they cure as a solid foam. To get the wheel centre out of this "mess" the
tyre would need to be cut from the rim.(not forgetting the weight factor.)
Regards
Bob Harrison
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio
Sent: 21 September 2009 11:48
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre
Failures
I did not know there are different sealants for tubed ja tubeless tyres!
I have once made my day (or in fact my summer) with this stuff but this time
it did not help.
Maybe it was wrong stuff for tubeless tyre types ?
Raimo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre
Failures
<carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
SLIME is simply a tyre sealant which coats the inside of the tyre or inner
tube with a viscous compound which seals any punctures that occur.
Its intended as an emergency repair but I have used it in my car for a few
years. You have to be careful with car usage as it can throw out the wheel
balance but in the Europa, it doesent matter if the wheel is out of balance.
Available for tubed or tubeless tyres it contains rubber granules which
combine with the sealant to fill in any punctures - it will cope with nail
size holes without problem. When there is a puncture it oozes from the hole
leaving a fluorescent trail so that you know you have a problem.
Slime is a trade name but there are other makes available which are no doubt
just as effective.
I looked on their site and they have an European catalog so I assume it is
available worldwide.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Borger" <rlborger@mac.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>
>
> Carl,
>
> Please explain further for our European friends who are probably not
> aware of the product.
>
> Bob Borger
> Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
> http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
> Aircraft Flying!
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208
> Home: 940-497-2123
> Cel: 817-992-1117
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2009, at 6:35, Carl Pattinson wrote:
>
>> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk
>> >
>>
>> Very easy solution - its called "slime". No more flat tyres.
>>
>> http://www.slime.com/index.php
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>>
>>
>> Terve!
>>
>> I cannot accept this! It should not be a part of our life we live (and
>> fly) nowadays !
>> Landing with empty tyre could hurt seriously in the worst case scenario.
>>
>> There must be something to prevent this happening so often or even
>> better - never!
>>
>> I used also talcum powder and now the whole plane smells roses (I asked
>> powder with jet fuel smell but they have not!).
>>
>> Whats your tire pressure, Paul? I have used always 2,2 PSI = 2,4
>> kg/cm2 (thats about double they recommend).
>>
>> BTW it is easy to check: in my case 2,2 PSI equals 162 mm = 6,38" from
>> the asphalt surface to the lowest point of the main axle (port side).
>> That is a poor mans Mono Main Tyres Pressure Gauge.
>>
>> Raimo OH-XRT
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister"
>> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
>> >
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>>
>>
>> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
>> >
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have this happen regularly. I now just change them every 100 hours
>> and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I
>> have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
>> much improvement.
>>
>> The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
>> such low pressure.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
>> wrote:
>>> All
>>>
>>> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
>>> Monowheel.
>>>
>>> Loosing suddenly main gears air pressure is not a funny game and did
>>> not
>>> make my day actually.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
Bob;
=C2-
We had the same problem on our RV-7A that our son flys.It went flat after h
e had landed...
No damage, but we also went to different size on the nose gear tube....
=C2-
JimBrown
--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Robert C Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
From: Robert C Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Hi! Jim
I have had the problem with failure of the nose wheel inner tubes at their
seams. Especially before I researched slightly different size tubes. The or
iginals were too large a diameter on the =9Cballoon=9D dimensio
n and so always inflated with a crease in them.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
=C2-
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-europa-list-ser
ver@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: 20 September 2009 13:11
Subject: Re: Europa -List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
=C2-
Paul
=C2-
I have been following this thread on flats,=C2-and I have a few points to
make, that have worked for me.
=C2-
I have been flying my monowheel almost ten years off paved runway's...My ki
t included the old "tundra tire" and instructions to use low pressure,(I do
n't remember PSI, but the sidewalls rubbed the Landing gear frame.) The pla
ne taxied like it was runing in mud..
=C2-
I changed that tire at about 20 hours to a 700 X 6 and 6 plys and used 30 P
SI. The plane is much easier to taxi, take off's are much quicker, and in 8
00 hours I have replaced two tires that were worn out. No flats !!!! I can'
t say that the air pressure is the problem, and also I don't fly off grass,
but I have not had the problems that so many of you are having.
=C2-
On another note having made the above change I also changed the outrigger l
engths, as the new tire, with higher pressure made the original outriggers
to short. Over the past ten years I have extened the outriggers in length,
to now when the plane is parked, both outriggers touch the ground. For me g
round handling is much better, and in landing with the longer outriggers th
e "rocking from one outrigger to the other" is now gone.
=C2-
Also another question ? Are the flats limited to the Monowheels ??? Are=C2
-are the tri gears having this problem?=C2-
=C2-
Jim Brown
XS Monowheel.
--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Paul McAllister < paul.the.aviator@gmail.com > wrote:
From: Paul McAllister < paul.the.aviator@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: Europa -List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
--> Europa -List message posted by: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail
.com>
Hi,
I have this happen regularly.=C2- I now just change them every 100 hours
and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube.=C2- I
have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
much improvement.
The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
such=C2- low pressure.
Paul
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> wrote:
> All
>
> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
> Monowheel.
>
> Loosing suddenly main gear=C2=B4s air pressure is not a funny game and di
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| Subject: | Requirements for registering an aircraft in France |
John,
There is no way you can register a foreign homebuilt in France .
The solution is to stay with the british registration.
Many french registered homebuilts are based in UK, Germany, Switzerland
etc.... This seems to work as long as the aircraft is maintained
according to the french rules.
So my advice is to take your aircraft to France, and continue to comply
with the LAA permit to fly requirements. Check that the LAA does not
have any objection.
Sure you will enjoy flying in our country.
Regards
Remi Guerner
<<<<<I will be permanently moving to France ( Villeneuve sur Lot ) in
November and as
I seem to be unable to sell my Classic tri-gear I will have to take it
with
me !
Could anyone please tell me what I have to do to import the aircraft to
France,
and what other steps are necessary to remain legal ?
The aircraft has a UK Permit until June 2010.
Many thanks
John Richardson>>>>>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Mono Inner Tyre Failures |
Jim Brown..........what size nose gear tube did you use?
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Brown
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Bob;
We had the same problem on our RV-7A that our son flys.It went
flat after he had landed...
No damage, but we also went to different size on the nose gear
tube....
JimBrown
--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Robert C Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:
From: Robert C Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 9:43 PM
Hi! Jim
I have had the problem with failure of the nose wheel inner
tubes at their seams. Especially before I researched slightly different
size tubes. The originals were too large a diameter on the
=9Cballoon=9D dimension and so always inflated with a crease
in them.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: 20 September 2009 13:11
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa -List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Paul
I have been following this thread on flats, and I have a
few points to make, that have worked for me.
I have been flying my monowheel almost ten years off
paved runway's...My kit included the old "tundra tire" and instructions
to use low pressure,(I don't remember PSI, but the sidewalls rubbed the
Landing gear frame.) The plane taxied like it was runing in mud..
I changed that tire at about 20 hours to a 700 X 6 and 6
plys and used 30 PSI. The plane is much easier to taxi, take off's are
much quicker, and in 800 hours I have replaced two tires that were worn
out. No flats !!!! I can't say that the air pressure is the problem, and
also I don't fly off grass, but I have not had the problems that so many
of you are having.
On another note having made the above change I also
changed the outrigger lengths, as the new tire, with higher pressure
made the original outriggers to short. Over the past ten years I have
extened the outriggers in length, to now when the plane is parked, both
outriggers touch the ground. For me ground handling is much better, and
in landing with the longer outriggers the "rocking from one outrigger to
the other" is now gone.
Also another question ? Are the flats limited to the
Monowheels ??? Are are the tri gears having this problem?
Jim Brown
XS Monowheel.
--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Paul McAllister <
paul.the.aviator@gmail.com > wrote:
From: Paul McAllister < paul.the.aviator@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: Europa -List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 12:32 PM
--> Europa -List message posted by: Paul McAllister
<paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Hi,
I have this happen regularly. I now just change them
every 100 hours
and I never travel without my jacking block and a
spare inner tube. I
have tried inner tube talcum powder and different
pressures with out
much improvement.
The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall
due to running
such low pressure.
Paul
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio
<raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> wrote:
> All
>
> I have lost without visible or known reason two
innner tyres in my
> Monowheel.
>
> Loosing suddenly main gear=C2=B4s air pressure is
not a funny game and did not
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Thanks for that info. Jim.I have had about 4 failed tubes in two tyres
since Sept 2000. I had thought it was just me being =93Johna=94 ! until
I
rumbled the alternative size for the 4" nose wheel tube size which I
have
resorted to now is a KINGS TIRE 11x4.00-5 Which for some reason is of
smaller cross section balloon size than the original KINGS TIRE
4.10/3.50-5
Both have the 90deg bent metal valve. And were supplied by WATTS
Aviation
Tyres.
www.wattsaviation.co.uk/
However I spoke to John Bell at Watts tyres today and he says that the
selection of tubes is a black art due to manufacturers trying to cater
for
wide tyre sizes.
Ultimately it is down to the person doing the fitting to identify if the
tube is over size. In this effect it is infinitely better to have a
slightly
undersize tube which will expand to fit the tyre instead of oversize and
no
where for the slack to go. Thank God we are not talking certified
aircraft.!
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
_____
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: 21 September 2009 20:42
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Bob;
We had the same problem on our RV-7A that our son flys.It went flat
after he
had landed...
No damage, but we also went to different size on the nose gear tube....
JimBrown
--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Robert C Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
From: Robert C Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Hi! Jim
I have had the problem with failure of the nose wheel inner tubes at
their
seams. Especially before I researched slightly different size tubes. The
originals were too large a diameter on the =93balloon=94 dimension and
so always
inflated with a crease in them.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
_____
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: 20 September 2009 13:11
Subject: Re: Europa -List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Paul
I have been following this thread on flats, and I have a few points to
make,
that have worked for me.
I have been flying my monowheel almost ten years off paved runway's...My
kit
included the old "tundra tire" and instructions to use low pressure,(I
don't
remember PSI, but the sidewalls rubbed the Landing gear frame.) The
plane
taxied like it was runing in mud..
I changed that tire at about 20 hours to a 700 X 6 and 6 plys and used
30
PSI. The plane is much easier to taxi, take off's are much quicker, and
in
800 hours I have replaced two tires that were worn out. No flats !!!! I
can't say that the air pressure is the problem, and also I don't fly off
grass, but I have not had the problems that so many of you are having.
On another note having made the above change I also changed the
outrigger
lengths, as the new tire, with higher pressure made the original
outriggers
to short. Over the past ten years I have extened the outriggers in
length,
to now when the plane is parked, both outriggers touch the ground. For
me
ground handling is much better, and in landing with the longer
outriggers
the "rocking from one outrigger to the other" is now gone.
Also another question ? Are the flats limited to the Monowheels ??? Are
are
the tri gears having this problem?
Jim Brown
XS Monowheel.
--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Paul McAllister < paul.the.aviator@gmail.com >
wrote:
From: Paul McAllister < paul.the.aviator@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: Europa -List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
--> Europa -List message posted by: Paul McAllister <
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m>
paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Hi,
I have this happen regularly. I now just change them every 100 hours
and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube. I
have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
much improvement.
The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
such low pressure.
Paul
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <
<http://us.mc450.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> wrote:
> All
>
> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
> Monowheel.
>
> Loosing suddenly main gear=B4s air pressure is not a funny game and
did not
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Jim, I can't remember right now. I'd have to go to my hanger and look
up my latest invoice from Desser.
Garry
----- Original Message -----
From: Garry
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Jim Brown..........what size nose gear tube did you use?
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Brown
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Bob;
We had the same problem on our RV-7A that our son flys.It went
flat after he had landed...
No damage, but we also went to different size on the nose gear
tube....
JimBrown
--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Robert C Harrison
<ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
From: Robert C Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 9:43 PM
Hi! Jim
I have had the problem with failure of the nose wheel inner
tubes at their seams. Especially before I researched slightly different
size tubes. The originals were too large a diameter on the
=9Cballoon=9D dimension and so always inflated with a crease
in them.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
--------------------------------------------------------------------
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com ] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: 20 September 2009 13:11
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa -List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
Paul
I have been following this thread on flats, and I have
a few points to make, that have worked for me.
I have been flying my monowheel almost ten years off
paved runway's...My kit included the old "tundra tire" and instructions
to use low pressure,(I don't remember PSI, but the sidewalls rubbed the
Landing gear frame.) The plane taxied like it was runing in mud..
I changed that tire at about 20 hours to a 700 X 6 and
6 plys and used 30 PSI. The plane is much easier to taxi, take off's are
much quicker, and in 800 hours I have replaced two tires that were worn
out. No flats !!!! I can't say that the air pressure is the problem, and
also I don't fly off grass, but I have not had the problems that so many
of you are having.
On another note having made the above change I also
changed the outrigger lengths, as the new tire, with higher pressure
made the original outriggers to short. Over the past ten years I have
extened the outriggers in length, to now when the plane is parked, both
outriggers touch the ground. For me ground handling is much better, and
in landing with the longer outriggers the "rocking from one outrigger to
the other" is now gone.
Also another question ? Are the flats limited to the
Monowheels ??? Are are the tri gears having this problem?
Jim Brown
XS Monowheel.
--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Paul McAllister <
paul.the.aviator@gmail.com > wrote:
From: Paul McAllister < paul.the.aviator@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: Europa -List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 12:32 PM
--> Europa -List message posted by: Paul McAllister
<paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Hi,
I have this happen regularly. I now just change
them every 100 hours
and I never travel without my jacking block and a
spare inner tube. I
have tried inner tube talcum powder and different
pressures with out
much improvement.
The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side
wall due to running
such low pressure.
Paul
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio
<raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> wrote:
> All
>
> I have lost without visible or known reason two
innner tyres in my
> Monowheel.
>
> Loosing suddenly main gear=C2=B4s air pressure is
not a funny game and did not
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