---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/26/09: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:52 AM - Re: Finally: The accident report Wels, 22.08.2008, Wels Austria (Graham Singleton) 2. 04:30 AM - =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_Fw:__Finally:_The_accident_report_Wels=2C_22.08.2008=2C_Wels_Austria? (standa.svec@volny.cz) 3. 11:43 PM - Re: Finally: The accident report Wels, 22.08.2008, Wels Austria (Greg Fuchs) 4. 11:53 PM - resin used in cowls (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:52:05 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Finally: The accident report Wels, 22.08.2008, Wels Austria Jos 19 degrees would be normal for a fixed pitch prop I would have thought, depends on blade area but a Warp Drive blede would be around 19 deg. Graham josok wrote: > > Posted here: > http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=24760#24760 > Copied from faxes and in German, sorry. If somebody interested and German speaking would be so kind to do a summary in English? > > For me the most intriguing statement, in my own translation: "Based on the position of the adjustment rings on the propeller blade A, it could be established, with help of the manufacturer respectively it's documentation, that the blade angle at the time of the crash was at minimum pitch, that is 19 degree. " > > Now my question to the forum is: Should the plane not be flyable with that pitch on the prop, taking in account that the speed had allready dropped to 50 knots? > > Kind Regards, > > Jos Okhuijsen > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:22 AM PST US Subject: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Re:_Fw:_Europa-List:_Finally:_The_accident_report_Wels=2C_22.08.2008=2C_Wels_Austria? From: standa.svec@volny.cz Jos, please, my propeller is Woodcomp SR 2000. For the control of this propeller I have two sub-asemblies. 1/ Constant speed unit CSU 2/ "Manual" unit MU For the switching from CSU to MU I have the switch there. When the switch is in MU position, the CSU unit is fully disconnected. The whole control I have connected only on one circuit breaker (MU, CSU and motor in propeller) When I shuld have the same problem with CSU after Take off as you, my duty would be: 1/ to switch from CSU to MU 2/ to switch the circuit breaker to ON position again 3/ to control the propeller with help of MU (of course, when the circuit breaker would hold in ON position-the problem would be then really in CSU) I am reading the accident report from Austria and I see there nothing about, if you did the switching from CSU to MU or did not. Please, could you clear it? Thank you very much. Stanislav > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "josok" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:47 PM > Subject: Europa-List: Finally: The accident report > Wels, 22.08.2008, Wels > Austria > > > > > > Posted here: > > http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=24760#24760 > > > Copied from faxes and in German, sorry. If somebody > > interested and German > > > speaking would be so kind to do a summary in English? > > > > > For me the most intriguing statement, in my own translation: > > "Based on the > > > position of the adjustment rings on the propeller > > blade A, it could be > > > established, with help of the manufacturer respectively > > it's > > > documentation, that the blade angle at the time of > > the crash was at > > > minimum pitch, that is 19 degree. " > > > > Now my question to the forum is: Should the plane > > not be flyable with that > > > pitch on the prop, taking in account that the speed > > had allready dropped > > > to 50 knots? > > Kind Regards, > > Jos Okhuijsen ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:59 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Finally: The accident report Wels, 22.08.2008, Wels Austria That's a great idea, Tom We look forward to the translation. Regards, Greg Fuchs Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Scherer Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Finally: The accident report Wels, 22.08.2008, Wels Austria Jos, I'll work on it. Printing the pages and then summarize for you all. Sincerely, Thomas, N81EU ----- Original Message ----- From: "josok" Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Europa-List: Finally: The accident report Wels, 22.08.2008, Wels Austria > > Posted here: > http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=24760#24760 > Copied from faxes and in German, sorry. If somebody interested and German > speaking would be so kind to do a summary in English? > > For me the most intriguing statement, in my own translation: "Based on the > position of the adjustment rings on the propeller blade A, it could be > established, with help of the manufacturer respectively it's > documentation, that the blade angle at the time of the crash was at > minimum pitch, that is 19 degree. " > > Now my question to the forum is: Should the plane not be flyable with that > pitch on the prop, taking in account that the speed had allready dropped > to 50 knots? > > Kind Regards, > > Jos Okhuijsen > > > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:21 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Europa-List: resin used in cowls I'm planning on building a special cowl for a non-standard engine and, thus far, I have been unable to locate any information on temperature limitations for the epoxies we normally use, in my case Aeropoxy. Does anyone know what resins are used in the stock cowl? 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