---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/27/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:23 AM - Re: resin used in cowls (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 2. 03:14 AM - Re: Finally: The accident report Wels, 22.08.2008, (josok) 3. 09:14 AM - Re: resin used in cowls (Fred Klein) 4. 01:12 PM - cowl weight (Fred Klein) 5. 03:42 PM - Re: resin used in cowls (Graham Singleton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:59 AM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: resin used in cowls Class 2 fire retardant polyester resin. Which has a Tg of about 80C, AFTER heat curing. It's very difficult to find a fire retardant epoxy resin (that can be used for lay-up), but the Dow Chemical vinyl-ester types can be obtained in fire retardant forms (and are better than polyester resins). Duncan Mcf. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Klein" Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:44 AM Subject: Europa-List: resin used in cowls > > > I'm planning on building a special cowl for a non-standard engine and, > thus far, I have been unable to locate any information on temperature > limitations for the epoxies we normally use, in my case Aeropoxy. Does > anyone know what resins are used in the stock cowl? > > Thanks in advance for any help in this area, > > Fred > A194 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:05 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Finally: The accident report Wels, 22.08.2008, From: "josok" Stanislav, You don't answer my question or add anthing else for that matter. Which prop i was using and which controller, actions taken and a lot more has already been discussed. Please use the search function, i am not going to repeat myself or talk about other props or controllers in this thread. Sorry, Regards, Jos Okhuijsen Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:27 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: resin used in cowls On Sep 27, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Duncan & Ami McFadyean wrote: > Class 2 fire retardant polyester resin. Which has a Tg of about 80C, > AFTER heat curing. It's very difficult to find a fire retardant > epoxy resin (that can be used for lay-up), but the Dow Chemical > vinyl-ester types can be obtained in fire retardant forms Duncan...thank you...googling "fire retardant vinyl-ester resin" took me immediately to: Interplastic Corporation (interplastic.com), a specialty chemical company with its headquarters in St. Paul, Minnesota. CORVE8441M-AT is a promoted, fire retardant, vinyl ester resin. This versatile resin contains antimony pentoxide to enhance fire resistance. According to the ASTM E84 Tunnel Test, it has a Class 1 flame spread rating of less than 25 without further additives. This product is corrosion resistant and is used in customer applications in the corrosion, transportation, construction, and fire resistant engineered products markets. Easily applied in spray-up, hand lay-up, and filament winding operations. This may be the ticket for me...but I'll check Dow Chemical too, Fred ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:01 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Europa-List: cowl weight By any chance, has anyone recorded the weights of the Europa top cowl and bottom cowl before accoutrements have been added? Fred A194 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:14 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: resin used in cowls Fred I suspect it is a polyester resin, or maybe vinyl ester. Probably with fire retardent. I'll see if I can find out. Graham Fred Klein wrote: > > I'm planning on building a special cowl for a non-standard engine and, > thus far, I have been unable to locate any information on temperature > limitations for the epoxies we normally use, in my case Aeropoxy. Does > anyone know what resins are used in the stock cowl? > > Thanks in advance for any help in this area, > > Fred ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.