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1. 02:12 AM - Re: A/c radios ()
2. 06:29 AM - Re: VAT status for European touring (Robert C Harrison)
3. 12:51 PM - Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) (Robert C Harrison)
4. 02:23 PM - Re: Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) (rparigoris)
5. 03:40 PM - XS Monowheel Owners Manual/Weight and Balance (Troy Maynor)
6. 03:55 PM - Re: XS Monowheel Owners Manual/Weight and Balance (Robert Borger)
7. 04:12 PM - Re: XS Monowheel Owners Manual/Weight and Balance (craig bastin)
8. 06:17 PM - Re: Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) (Rob Housman)
9. 07:11 PM - Re: Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) (Paul McAllister)
10. 07:55 PM - Re: Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) (rparigoris)
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Mike you could also use the garmin SL40, it doesnt have the NAV facility's but
still have intercom and dual channel listening,
Regards
ivor
---- mike gamble <mp.gamble@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Thank you all for the advise re choice of radio.
> I shall very shortly have to make the decision - made easier by your comments.
> Mike
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Subject: | VAT status for European touring |
Hi! Glen
In the absence of anyone more qualified giving you an answer I would advise
:- some time ago ...like 7 or 8 years ago ...I recall that an oversized
French Bureaucrat started to play Hitler on this issue. However I don't
think anything came of it. I have flown to all places Europe over the
interceding period and never been asked to provide any proof. If that does
occur I will have a well prepared instruction to give such a person!
I think the best approach is not to give the impression they are entitled to
even ask because if you do it is tantamount to authorizing them.
I haven't seen David's item but I'm guessing it emanates from our
experiences on the Europa Club trip to the Ballerics when we were delayed
wanting fuel over an issue since we couldn't provide a VAT number in
particular in Jerez where a "thick gorilla type fuel operative" wanted a
number to put into a "box" on his fuel issue papers. In future I will carry
such a number!
Fortunately we were all in a position to leave without any, making
appropriate comments that they should put the fuel where the "sun don't
shine!"
Don't worry about it just go and when they nail a notice to your aircraft we
will respond by invading them en mass!
I had a ramp paper work audit done once ....I believe in Munster, we were
returning from noise tests being done by MT Propellers and the bloody
Gestapo had the audacity to tell me that the German documents I was carrying
were worthless since they referred to a British registered aircraft!
On contacting the CAA on my return THEY refused to convert the documents
since they don't have a noise certificate form for Permit to Fly aircraft!!!
"Enough said"!
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Rainey
Sent: 09 October 2009 18:06
Subject: Europa-List: VAT status for European touring
Hi folks. My posting is triggered by the useful article from David Joyce in
the 'Flyer' Sept 09 concerning ops in Europe - but I throw this open to
others this side of The Pond - this concerns the smaller patch of water on
our Eastern shores.
One subject maybe overlooked (did I read David correctly?) is documentation
needed for a Permit aircraft crossing the channel specifically to prove the
VAT (purchase tax) status of an aircraft. I know the Yachties are already
finding some enthusiastic customs checks in France and elsewhere and I have
heard of 'ramp' checks for aircraft, with risks of being impounded if VAT
cannot be proved paid. Any opinions? Do we need to have documents - Bill of
original Sale - to prove VAT paid on a KIT aircraft, along with all the
other stuff, Permit, Permissions, Insurance, Radio Licences, Gen Dec ....
....
Glenn Rainey
912 Mono G-OJHL Co-Owner
Cumbernauld
Scotland
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Subject: | Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) |
Hi! All
Partly a call for "any ideas"? and partly a warning to all concerned.
I have managed to very slightly damage the "thimble" filter at the inlet
side of one of my pumps. That was a real bum thing to do but to heap further
"coals of fire" on my head I find that they are not a spares listed part and
no one not even Rotax or Peirburg the pump manufacturer will supply a
replacement.
It is therefore necessary to buy a new pump ! What a con. if I ever heard of
one.
So, wonderful Europa forum, has anyone any other ideas? For instance someone
somewhere makes the damn things or does anyone have a back door combination
to Pierburg ?!
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) |
Hi Bob
""any ideas"? and partly a warning to all concerned.
I have managed to very slightly damage the "thimble" filter at the inlet
side of one of my pumps."
I don't know what your fuel system looks like, but will comment on "when" I too
manage to damage one of my sock filters!
Here is what my fuel systenm looks like:
http://contrails.free.fr/engine_914_fuel_syst_test_en.php
Some ideas:
*Call around to Rotax and Europa businesses and get hold of an old burned out pump
and steal filter
*Buy a new pump and put it in your plane, then install a factory filter very close
coupled to intake of pump and use it as a transfer pump to fill your plane
*For me, if the filter was just slightly damaged, I would put it in my P1 with
good filter in P2. If sock were very damaged and beyond reasonable hold together
function, I would just get rid of sock filter on my P1, but remember I have
an Andair 375 gasculator very short coupled to P1 that has a much finer mesh
filter than factory filter and would accept the small chance that debris may somehow
get into intake of unfiltered P1 between Andair gasculator and intake of
my P1. Different story on my P2 intake, much greater chance that debris could
somehow come from outlet of P1, any one of the many fittings and hoses and connections,
G2 or G2 one way that is upstream of intake of P2. If P1 quits, I
should have a good to go P2
*If your system allows, just put another factory filter very close coupled to your
P1 and put the good sock filter in P2
*Help another Rotax 914 owner clean their sock filter on one of their fuel pumps,
and tell them it is a good thing they descided to check, because it happens
to be damaged (>switch<)!
Ron Parigoris
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | XS Monowheel Owners Manual/Weight and Balance |
Hey All,
I can't seem to locate an owners manual for the XS monowheel on the
Europa Club or Factory Site.
I have a classic monowheel, but with the extended baggage bay and the
tailwheel move/mod. I am seeking this for the weight and balance pages
in section 6.
Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks to all.
Troy Maynor
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Subject: | Re: XS Monowheel Owners Manual/Weight and Balance |
Troy,
http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/assistance/manuals.php
Bottom of the page.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Oct 10, 2009, at 17:26, Troy Maynor wrote:
> Hey All,
> I can't seem to locate an owners manual for the XS monowheel on
> the Europa Club or Factory Site.
> I have a classic monowheel, but with the extended baggage bay and
> the tailwheel move/mod. I am seeking this for the weight and balance
> pages in section 6.
> Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks to all.
> Troy Maynor
>
>
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Subject: | XS Monowheel Owners Manual/Weight and Balance |
I can scan and email the trike C of G calc pages if u like, you would need
to alter the datum points for main wheel and tail wheel
instead of nose gear / main gear. Other than that I believe the calculations
and other bits should be the same, given the
rest of the A/C is the same.
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Troy Maynor
Sent: Sunday, 11 October 2009 8:26 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: XS Monowheel Owners Manual/Weight and Balance
Hey All,
I can't seem to locate an owners manual for the XS monowheel on the
Europa Club or Factory Site.
I have a classic monowheel, but with the extended baggage bay and the
tailwheel move/mod. I am seeking this for the weight and balance pages in
section 6.
Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks to all.
Troy Maynor
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Subject: | Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) |
Ron, I very much like your implementation but I would add one improvement,
that being quick disconnect fittings to permit removal of whatever filters
are used without flooding the cabin with fuel when the filters need to be
removed for cleaning or replacement.
.and no, I have not neglected to use hose clamps - the above is a simplified
image from a 3D CAD model of my fuel system, not a photo of the actual
hardware.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Irvine, CA
Europa XS Tri-Gear
A070
Airframe complete
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rparigoris
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg )
Hi Bob
""any ideas"? and partly a warning to all concerned.
I have managed to very slightly damage the "thimble" filter at the inlet
side of one of my pumps."
I don't know what your fuel system looks like, but will comment on "when" I
too manage to damage one of my sock filters!
Here is what my fuel systenm looks like:
http://contrails.free.fr/engine_914_fuel_syst_test_en.php
Some ideas:
*Call around to Rotax and Europa businesses and get hold of an old burned
out pump and steal filter
*Buy a new pump and put it in your plane, then install a factory filter very
close coupled to intake of pump and use it as a transfer pump to fill your
plane
*For me, if the filter was just slightly damaged, I would put it in my P1
with good filter in P2. If sock were very damaged and beyond reasonable hold
together function, I would just get rid of sock filter on my P1, but
remember I have an Andair 375 gasculator very short coupled to P1 that has a
much finer mesh filter than factory filter and would accept the small chance
that debris may somehow get into intake of unfiltered P1 between Andair
gasculator and intake of my P1. Different story on my P2 intake, much
greater chance that debris could somehow come from outlet of P1, any one of
the many fittings and hoses and connections, G2 or G2 one way that is
upstream of intake of P2. If P1 quits, I should have a good to go P2
*If your system allows, just put another factory filter very close coupled
to your P1 and put the good sock filter in P2
*Help another Rotax 914 owner clean their sock filter on one of their fuel
pumps, and tell them it is a good thing they descided to check, because it
happens to be damaged (>switch<)!
Ron Parigoris
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) |
Hi Bob,
How much damage is there ? If its small then a spot of redux might
fix the offending spot.
Just a thought, Paul
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Pumps Rotax 914 System.(Pierburg ) |
Hi Rob
"Ron, I very much like your implementation but I would add one improvement, that
being quick disconnect fittings to permit removal of whatever filters are used
without flooding the cabin with fuel when the filters need to be removed for
cleaning or replacement."
I have two Andair 375 gasculators sealed in a box with access from outside the
aeroplane (not under the wing either). Easy access, just unscrew bowl after you
drain from quick drain and spin off filter/s.
see:
http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album231&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
I looked at your two series fuel filters drawing. Are you planning on having two
sets (of two parallel filters each)? If not and you only plan on 1 pair of parallel
filters, once they clog, turning on pump #2 in either a series with bypass,
or parallel fuel system will not be of much use.
Ron Parigoris
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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