---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 10/13/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:26 AM - Re: DOTH Shobdon Thu. 15th (Steve Pitt) 2. 01:39 AM - Shobdon DOTH (David Corbett) 3. 05:43 AM - europa club goodies (Rowland Carson) 4. 05:19 PM - Re: Selling Europa XS motorglider kit (Keith Hickling) 5. 06:33 PM - Re: Selling Europa XS motorglider kit (Richard Sementilli) 6. 10:12 PM - Tailplane Pip Pins Source (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 7. 11:13 PM - Mod 73 (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:47 AM PST US From: "Steve Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Shobdon Thu. 15th Will try to be there. Steve G-SMDH ----- Original Message ----- From: Paddy Clarke To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:28 PM Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Shobdon Thu. 15th Hi Folks, The best weather this week seems to be Thursday again ( sorry Bryan! ). We have a voucher in Pilot for Shobdon, always a favourite, so I suggest there for a DOTH. Usual time, All the best, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa G-KIMM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:47 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Shobdon DOTH From: "David Corbett" Hello, Paddy, Sadly I will be wandering around the tourist sites in Cairo on Thursday, so will not be here to greet you all - but have a good day! David ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:38 AM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: europa club goodies Those Europa Club members who have already received issue 62 of the Europa Flyer will notice that sew-on patches are now available with the new Club logo. You can now order those online from the Club website - there are links on several pages to buy "Club membership items". At the urging of the Committee, I have added this new entry point for purchases that does not require you to renew your subscription at the same time. Very shortly I will add the new items to the joining/renewing page to keep everything in harmony. Remember that you will need your Europa Club membership number to log in and make these purchases - and you can find it on the address label of any Club communication, such as The Europa Flyer! Let me know if you have any problems with these new pages. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson LAA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/ | 1300 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:19 PM PST US From: Keith Hickling Subject: Re: Europa-List: Selling Europa XS motorglider kit Hello Ralph, Have you sold your Europa motorglider yet ? As I said previously I am very interested if you have not sold it, and would appreciate further details - eg how far advanced is your build, when was it purchased etc. Thanks, Regards, Keith Hickling, New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph K. Hallett III" Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:26 AM Subject: Europa-List: Selling Europa XS motorglider kit >I am selling my Europa XS motorglider kit, Rotax 914, Airmaster CS prop, > Dynon 180 etc. I've been flying an RV 6 and have lost interest in > finishing the Europa. The a/c is at Stead airport, home of the Reno Air > Races. All components are new zero time. $50,000 takes it all. > You may contact me via email at N100RH@sbcglobal.net and I will send you > a complete listing. > Thank you, > Ralph > Ralph Hallett III > Reno, NV > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:35 PM PST US From: Richard Sementilli Subject: Re: Europa-List: Selling Europa XS motorglider kit Keith, I have my XS for sale. Are you interested? (912S, Airmaster prop, covered trailer, lots more). Thanks, RIchard Sementilli On Oct 14, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Keith Hickling wrote: > > > > Hello Ralph, > Have you sold your Europa motorglider yet ? As I said previously I > am very interested if you have not sold it, and would appreciate > further details - eg how far advanced is your build, when was it > purchased etc. > > Thanks, > Regards, > > Keith Hickling, > New Zealand. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph K. Hallett III" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:26 AM > Subject: Europa-List: Selling Europa XS motorglider kit > > >> I am selling my Europa XS motorglider kit, Rotax 914, Airmaster CS >> prop, >> Dynon 180 etc. I've been flying an RV 6 and have lost interest in >> finishing the Europa. The a/c is at Stead airport, home of the Reno >> Air >> Races. All components are new zero time. $50,000 takes it all. >> You may contact me via email at N100RH@sbcglobal.net and I will >> send you >> a complete listing. >> Thank you, >> Ralph >> Ralph Hallett III >> Reno, NV > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:48 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Tailplane Pip Pins Source Does anyone in the States have a source for these if longer ones are needed after finishing Mod 73? Mike Duane A207A Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Jabiru 3300A Sensenich R64Z N Ground Adjustable Prop ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:51 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Europa-List: Mod 73 With the premise that the only stupid questions are those which aren't asked, I have a couple for anyone who'd like to comment on this Mod 73. As I recall, Mod 73 is a direct outcome of the initial concerns following William Mills' tragic in-flight break up...particularly a concern that the triggering event was one of the tailplanes moving outboard and decoupling from the pins on the torque tube flange. Following the grounding of UK-based Europas, Mod 73 was devised, approved, and implemented on the entire UK fleet as well as on many other aircraft based elsewhere. From the list prepared of those who implimented Mod 73 (I don't believe) any instances were discovered or reported of incipient failures. Subsequently, the accident investigation (if I recall correctly) determined that the triggering event was a failure caused by the incorrect location of embedded aluminum plates on the inboard face of a flap...a condition which precluded the proper threading for the flap pin which was pulled free and destabilised the aircraft...a condition totally unrelated to issues intended to be addressed by Mod 73. If I am even partially incorrect thus far, please enlighten me. So my questions are: - Is Mod 73 a required mod for any aircraft based outside of the UK?...particularly in the US? - If not, why implement Mod 73 when there is no evidence that a problem with the original design exists? - Is Mod 73 an example of a prematurely arrived at "fix", approved and implemented in a rush to get the Europa fleet airborne again before the real culprit was determined...and...does it remain in effect today out of a reluctance of regulatory agencies to set things right? Thanks for any comments and input, Fred A194 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.