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0. 12:15 AM - Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year... (Matt Dralle)
1. 02:50 AM - Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. (Richard Lamprey)
2. 03:44 AM - Re: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. (Pete Lawless)
3. 03:45 AM - Re: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. (Peter Jeffers)
4. 09:43 AM - Re: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. (Karl Heindl)
5. 11:52 AM - Re: Cowling with no access doors (rampil)
6. 11:53 AM - Re: EFIS Instruments from "Light Flying" in Australia (rampil)
7. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: EFIS Instruments from "Light Flying" in Australia (JR Gowing)
8. 02:05 PM - Re: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. (Robert C Harrison)
9. 02:35 PM - Re: EFIS Instruments from "Light Flying" in Australia (Frans Veldman)
10. 02:47 PM - 406 ELT (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
11. 03:19 PM - Re: 406 ELT (rampil)
12. 03:22 PM - Re: EFIS Instruments from "Light Flying" in Australia (rampil)
13. 03:46 PM - Re: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. (William Daniell)
14. 03:52 PM - Re: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. (William Daniell)
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Subject: | Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. |
Greetings to all from Kenya.
Kenya Europa classic monowheel 5Y-LRY has been flying 10 years now (550
hours), and the retract bungee is getting tired. After takeoff and
climbout at 70 knots the pressure on the flaps helps the retract
process, but the retract lever needs a good shove into the forward
recess. It would seem that changing the bungee is really quite a
nightmare, and perhaps I can stave this off for a year or two by
retensioning them (I have never done this before). Has anyone tried
this? How much life can I expect on retensioning?
All the best
Richard
Classic 168
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Subject: | Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. |
Hi Richard
Had the same problem last year on my classic #109. If you remove the
exhaust and the metal firewall it is easy enough to get at. The whole
job
to replace with new bungee took only an afternoon.
Regards
Pete
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Subject: Europa-List: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel.
Greetings to all from Kenya.
Kenya Europa classic monowheel 5Y-LRY has been flying 10 years now (550
hours), and the retract bungee is getting tired. After takeoff and
climbout
at 70 knots the pressure on the flaps helps the retract process, but the
retract lever needs a good shove into the forward recess. It would seem
that changing the bungee is really quite a nightmare, and perhaps I can
stave this off for a year or two by retensioning them (I have never done
this before). Has anyone tried this? How much life can I expect on
retensioning?
All the best
Richard
Classic 168
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Subject: | Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. |
Hi Richard,
After about 8 years service on my Mono I carried out a re tensioning of the
bungies without too much drama. I seem to recall being able to tighten to
the extent of getting another complete wrap around the frame.ie two extra
strands. It made a great improvement to the retraction process. The
difficulty is distributing the re tensioning to all the strands. You will
probably need to remove the stainless or Singleton fire bulkhead in order to
get sufficient access.
Re tensioning the Mono bungee is easy easy compared with tightening the tri
gear bungee.
Pete
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Lamprey
Sent: 20 November 2009 10:46
Subject: Europa-List: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel.
Greetings to all from Kenya.
Kenya Europa classic monowheel 5Y-LRY has been flying 10 years now (550
hours), and the retract bungee is getting tired. After takeoff and climbout
at 70 knots the pressure on the flaps helps the retract process, but the
retract lever needs a good shove into the forward recess. It would seem
that changing the bungee is really quite a nightmare, and perhaps I can
stave this off for a year or two by retensioning them (I have never done
this before). Has anyone tried this? How much life can I expect on
retensioning?
All the best
Richard
Classic 168
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Subject: | Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. |
Hi Pete=2C you said:
Re tensioning the Mono bungee is easy easy compared with tightening the tri
gear bungee.
I wonder whose trigear you are referring to. The tri bungee is fully acces
sible from underneath=2C and re-tensioning it is a 20-minute job=2C but it
is a 2-man job=2C unless one of the other solutions is used=2C i.e. springs
or multiple separate loops.
Karl
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er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Lamprey
Sent: 20 November 2009 10:46
Subject: Europa-List: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees=2C monowheel.
Greetings to all from Kenya.
Kenya Europa classic monowheel 5Y-LRY has been flying 10 years now (550 hou
rs)=2C and the retract bungee is getting tired. After takeoff and climbout
at 70 knots the pressure on the flaps helps the retract process=2C but the
retract lever needs a good shove into the forward recess. It would seem t
hat changing the bungee is really quite a nightmare=2C and perhaps I can st
ave this off for a year or two by retensioning them (I have never done this
before). Has anyone tried this? How much life can I expect on retensioni
ng?
All the best
Richard
Classic 168
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Subject: | Re: Cowling with no access doors |
No, you don't need to make the transition smooth or tight. The
factory standard is certainly neither.
If, on the other hand you wish to be industrious and make the
air transition a low energy passage which is air tight, you will
gain up 1 inch of additional ram air pressure in the manifold
providing extra power and higher service altitude.
Enjoy,
Ira
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Subject: | Re: EFIS Instruments from "Light Flying" in Australia |
What is the current service / support situation in Oz. Do they have a
local company presence in Oz?
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Subject: | Re: EFIS Instruments from "Light Flying" in Australia |
Ira
I don't know anything of them at all except that they have an office in
Canberra and was wondering if it was a South African Company......
JR Kit 327 in Oz
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From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:53 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: EFIS Instruments from "Light Flying" in Australia
>
> What is the current service / support situation in Oz. Do they have a
> local company presence in Oz?
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Subject: | Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. |
Hi! Richard, the best way to add tension is to buy a pair of rope clamps as
used by mountaineers. You can use two by pulling down on one and pushing up
on the other to gradually work some slack from the middle to the end on
both sides in turn. I don't know what the correct name is but they only
allow the bungee to slip in one direction. Try a mountaineering shop to buy.
It is a pig of a job and you need shoulder muscles like "popeye"!
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Kit 337 trike Rotax 914
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Jeffers
Sent: 20 November 2009 11:45
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel.
Hi Richard,
After about 8 years service on my Mono I carried out a re tensioning of the
bungies without too much drama. I seem to recall being able to tighten to
the extent of getting another complete wrap around the frame.ie two extra
strands. It made a great improvement to the retraction process. The
difficulty is distributing the re tensioning to all the strands. You will
probably need to remove the stainless or Singleton fire bulkhead in order to
get sufficient access.
Re tensioning the Mono bungee is easy easy compared with tightening the tri
gear bungee.
Pete
_____
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Lamprey
Sent: 20 November 2009 10:46
Subject: Europa-List: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel.
Greetings to all from Kenya.
Kenya Europa classic monowheel 5Y-LRY has been flying 10 years now (550
hours), and the retract bungee is getting tired. After takeoff and climbout
at 70 knots the pressure on the flaps helps the retract process, but the
retract lever needs a good shove into the forward recess. It would seem
that changing the bungee is really quite a nightmare, and perhaps I can
stave this off for a year or two by retensioning them (I have never done
this before). Has anyone tried this? How much life can I expect on
retensioning?
All the best
Richard
Classic 168
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Subject: | Re: EFIS Instruments from "Light Flying" in Australia |
JR Gowing wrote:
>
> Sorry everyone!
>
> I thought that all my message attempts went into space!
The problem you have is that your clock is one month off. I couldn't see
your postings unless I scroll back to the end of october.
> looking forward to any replies anyway!
Can't offer you any insight in these EFIS's, but the stratomaster series
certainly appear to be appealing.
Frans
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We are all going to soon need to replace our 121.5 MHZ ELTs with the newer
406 models.=C2- I bought an Ameri-King AK-450 two years ago based on thei
r statetment at that time that they would have a 406 "conversion" available
at a later date.=C2- I called about the "conversion" today and was told
that the 406 unit was $849, but they would gladly give me $50 credit for my
AK-450.=C2- I guess they define conversion as conversion from my pocket
to theirs.=C2- Buyer beware!
Jim Puglise A-286=C2-
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Gee, I wonder if Ameri-King will give me $50 for my 7yr old 450 ELT?
Yes, the conversion option is just a funds-transfer, not a swap of innards.
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Subject: | Re: EFIS Instruments from "Light Flying" in Australia |
So far as I know, they are a SA company. They were formerly
attached to a US company who service address was the CEO's
home address. Now I think they have a new service and support
company in the States.
I have actually used an MGL FF-2 fuel computer before I figured out
how to make my Floscan talk to my BMA. The FF-2 was inexpensively
made but functioned very well.
Ira
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Subject: | Re: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. |
corect name "jumars" or "shunts"
Will
Robert C Harrison wrote:
>
> Hi! Richard, the best way to add tension is to buy a pair of rope
> clamps as used by mountaineers. You can use two by pulling down on one
> and pushing up on the other to gradually work some slack from the
> middle to the end on both sides in turn. I dont know what the
> correct name is but they only allow the bungee to slip in one
> direction. Try a mountaineering shop to buy. It is a pig of a job and
> you need shoulder muscles like popeye!
>
> Regards
>
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG Kit 337 trike Rotax 914
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter
> Jeffers
> *Sent:* 20 November 2009 11:45
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Europa-List: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees,
> monowheel.
>
>
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> After about 8 years service on my Mono I carried out a re tensioning
> of the bungies without too much drama. I seem to recall being able to
> tighten to the extent of getting another complete wrap around the
> frame.ie two extra strands. It made a great improvement to the
> retraction process. The difficulty is distributing the re tensioning
> to all the strands. You will probably need to remove the stainless or
> Singleton fire bulkhead in order to get sufficient access.
>
> Re tensioning the Mono bungee is easy easy compared with tightening
> the tri gear bungee.
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Lamprey
> *Sent:* 20 November 2009 10:46
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Europa-List: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel.
>
>
>
>
>
> Greetings to all from Kenya.
>
>
>
> Kenya Europa classic monowheel 5Y-LRY has been flying 10 years now
> (550 hours), and the retract bungee is getting tired. After takeoff
> and climbout at 70 knots the pressure on the flaps helps the retract
> process, but the retract lever needs a good shove into the forward
> recess. It would seem that changing the bungee is really quite a
> nightmare, and perhaps I can stave this off for a year or two by
> retensioning them (I have never done this before). Has anyone tried
> this? How much life can I expect on retensioning?
>
>
>
> All the best
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Classic 168
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel. |
correct name "jumars" or "shunts" in the uk...dunno what they are in the US
you could probably use a prussic loop (ask a climber) which can be made
out of a loop or para cord has very similar action to the above
Will
Robert C Harrison wrote:
>
> Hi! Richard, the best way to add tension is to buy a pair of rope
> clamps as used by mountaineers. You can use two by pulling down on one
> and pushing up on the other to gradually work some slack from the
> middle to the end on both sides in turn. I dont know what the
> correct name is but they only allow the bungee to slip in one
> direction. Try a mountaineering shop to buy. It is a pig of a job and
> you need shoulder muscles like popeye!
>
> Regards
>
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG Kit 337 trike Rotax 914
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter
> Jeffers
> *Sent:* 20 November 2009 11:45
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Europa-List: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees,
> monowheel.
>
>
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> After about 8 years service on my Mono I carried out a re tensioning
> of the bungies without too much drama. I seem to recall being able to
> tighten to the extent of getting another complete wrap around the
> frame.ie two extra strands. It made a great improvement to the
> retraction process. The difficulty is distributing the re tensioning
> to all the strands. You will probably need to remove the stainless or
> Singleton fire bulkhead in order to get sufficient access.
>
> Re tensioning the Mono bungee is easy easy compared with tightening
> the tri gear bungee.
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Lamprey
> *Sent:* 20 November 2009 10:46
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Europa-List: Re-tensioning undercarriage bungees, monowheel.
>
>
>
>
>
> Greetings to all from Kenya.
>
>
>
> Kenya Europa classic monowheel 5Y-LRY has been flying 10 years now
> (550 hours), and the retract bungee is getting tired. After takeoff
> and climbout at 70 knots the pressure on the flaps helps the retract
> process, but the retract lever needs a good shove into the forward
> recess. It would seem that changing the bungee is really quite a
> nightmare, and perhaps I can stave this off for a year or two by
> retensioning them (I have never done this before). Has anyone tried
> this? How much life can I expect on retensioning?
>
>
>
> All the best
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Classic 168
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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