---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/19/09: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:48 AM - Re: Greece (Pete Lawless) 2. 02:54 AM - Vents (Remi Guerner) 3. 07:54 AM - Currency (Richard Iddon) 4. 07:54 AM - Re: Europa- Fresh air vents (William Daniell) 5. 12:49 PM - Re: Currency (Robert C Harrison) 6. 12:55 PM - Re: Currency (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 7. 12:56 PM - Re: Greece (David Joyce) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:48:24 AM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Greece David why don't you ask AOPA, they will have a contact for the Greek AOPA people who will be able to advise. Greek AOPA are working hard to encourage visitors. AOPA is your best insurance against the CAA and well worth joining. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert C Harrison Sent: 18 December 2009 22:50 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Greece Hi! David I always have considered it an unfriendly place since the Hull Plane spotters were locked up. ......Not that long since it was a dictatorship! Bob H -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce Sent: 18 December 2009 21:11 Subject: Europa-List: Greece Has anyone any experience of flying permit aircraft in Greece, and in particular of the current state of special permission needed or not? Happy Christmas, David Joyce, G-XSDJ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Houxou, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:54:35 AM PST US From: "Remi Guerner" Subject: Europa-List: Vents John and Frans, On my aircraft (monowheel) the Naca vents are effective without an especially designed output. Experiments clearly show that the air is escaping through the gear/flaps control level slot. How is it on trigears? I do not know. Moreover, I do not like the idea of sucking too much air from the cockpit so that cockpit pressure is below ambiant pressure as this will favor any carbon monoxide/exhaust gases in the vicinity to enter the cockpit. This is especially critical on the Europa as the configuration of the firewall makes it very difficult to seal it completely. Remi Guerner F-PGKL <<<<<<<<< provide a place for the incoming cockpit air to escape. Oh yes, I forgot that in my previous mail. I have made an outlet in the D-panel, attached to a scat tube that runs to the tail, >>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:51 AM PST US From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: Europa-List: Currency Uk licensing requirements. I haven't flown for 12 months but I have over 500 hours experience on my Tri Gear over six years. Is it a legal requirement in the UK that I have to do my first flight on my return with an instructor or just a recommendation. Co-ordinating instructor/weather/airplane/daylight and myself is proving difficult. Richard Iddon G-RIXS ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:51 AM PST US From: William Daniell Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa- Fresh air vents garry can you send a pic please Will Garry wrote: > The summers don't get much hotter than here in Florida. I initially > built-in the NACA ducts at knee level as per the plans........almost > worthless. Much later I discovered the Aircraft Spruce "Ultimate > Vents", which I placed in the lower corners of the windscreen, on each > side. Fantastic!!!! They can be directed to blow on your upper torso > and face, from a whisper to a tornado. They really work!!! And the > best part is that they can be installed in a few minutes AFTER you've > completed your build, without messing up your paint job or your > interior upholstery. > > Garry Stout > Tampa, Florida 914 Tri > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kevin Klinefelter > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Friday, December 18, 2009 3:07 PM > *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Europa- Fresh air vents > > I'm happy with the ultimate vents I placed above the knee, so they > are just clear of the instrument module. Seems like the lightest > and easiest to install of just about any of the ideas out there. > > Kevin > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Bob Fairall > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:25 AM > *Subject:* Europa-List: Europa- Fresh air vents > > Im progressing well on my second Europa (kit 494) and > exploring the options for cockpit fresh air. > > > > My existing Europa has the plastic adjustable NACA duct type > air inlets by pilot and passengers knees, but these are not > particularly effective. > > > > I have heard of and seen a number of roof entry fresh air > systems which I gather are very effective, but I recall > reading somewhere that cutting the roof can compromise the > strength of the cockpit module. > > > > All (UK) LAA approvable suggestions gratefully received. > > > > Thanks > > > > Bob Fairall (G-BXLK, mono classic, 400 hours and for sale, & > G-CBXW) > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security > System. > For more information please visit > http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > * > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > * > > * > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > * > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:04 PM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Currency Hi! Richard. I'm "fairly confident" that after a long lapse there are two requirements :- a) you need to do 3 landings prior to taking a passenger in the last 90 days. b) It is a license validation requirement that you have a 1hour instructor "check flight" within every two years. c) You need 12 hours solo minimum within every two years. Someone more authorative may bolster that up but I'm pretty sure it's correct. The 12 hours hasn't ever been a problem for me but two years running I had forgotten the check ride since time goes so fast! But by chance squeezed it in both times. It will be in my diary ahead in future.( I'm on a bloody annual medical too!) The date which counts is in your license and you can do the "check ride" up to 4 weeks ahead of the date. To do it in your own plane you need an instructor who is current on the Europa, I had to do mine recently on a Cessna 152 and of course the guy had to show me how all over again ! Regards Bob Harrison. _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Iddon Sent: 19 December 2009 15:54 Subject: Europa-List: Currency Uk licensing requirements. I haven't flown for 12 months but I have over 500 hours experience on my Tri Gear over six years. Is it a legal requirement in the UK that I have to do my first flight on my return with an instructor or just a recommendation. Co-ordinating instructor/weather/airplane/daylight and myself is proving difficult. Richard Iddon G-RIXS ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:53 PM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Currency Richard, Rather than ask three different instructors that question, and get three different answers, I'd speak to a LAA coach (or two!). http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/PCS/coach_details.html Rgds., Duncan Mcf. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Iddon To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Europa-List: Currency Uk licensing requirements. I haven't flown for 12 months but I have over 500 hours experience on my Tri Gear over six years. Is it a legal requirement in the UK that I have to do my first flight on my return with an instructor or just a recommendation. Co-ordinating instructor/weather/airplane/daylight and myself is proving difficult. Richard Iddon G-RIXS ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:42 PM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Greece Bob, I have also viewed it with deep suspicion in the same way that I also viewed Italy, but our recent trips round Italy have shown it to be a great and friendly place to fly (possibly as long as you cross their border to another Schengen country), and the recent article in Flyer seemed to imply that they thoroughly enjoyed their trip and had no problems, but unfortunately I have been unable to contact the author. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C Harrison" Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:49 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Greece > > > Hi! David > I always have considered it an unfriendly place since the Hull Plane > spotters were locked up. ......Not that long since it was a dictatorship! > Bob H > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce > Sent: 18 December 2009 21:11 > To: Europa list > Subject: Europa-List: Greece > > > > Has anyone any experience of flying permit aircraft in Greece, and in > particular of the current state of special permission needed or not? > > Happy Christmas, David Joyce, G-XSDJ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.