---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 12/20/09: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:10 AM - Re: Currency (pjeffers@talktalk.net) 2. 05:53 AM - Re: vents (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com) 3. 03:56 PM - Fuel tank installation without bonding it in (Jan de Jong) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Currency From: pjeffers@talktalk.net =0A Hi Richard,=0ABob is largely correct except that the you must have completed 12 hours in the last 12 months prior t o expiry of your previous BFR.=0A=0AThe BFR (1 hr flight wit h instructor)may be undertaken at any time in the last 12 months but the review may not be validated in yor license until 4 weeks prior to expiry due to the need to verify hours, medical etc.=0A=0APete (LAA asst coach)=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A =0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Robert C Harrison =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:59=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Currency=0A=0A=0A=0AHi! Richard.=0AI =99m =9Cfairly confident=9Dthat after a long lapse there are two requirements :-=0Aa) you need todo 3 landings prior to taking a passenger in the last 90 d ays.=0Ab) It is a license validation requirement that you have a 1hour instructor=9Ccheck flight=9D wit hin every two years.=0Ac) You need 12 hours so lo minimum within every two years.=0A =0ASomeone more authorativ emay bolster that up but I=99m pretty sure it=99s correct.=0AThe 12 hours hasn=99t ever been aproblem for me but two years running I had forgotten the check ride sinc e timegoes so fast! But by chance squeezed it in both time s.=0AIt will be in my diary ahead in future.( I=99m on a bloody annual medical too!)=0AThe date which counts is in your licenseand you can do the =9Ccheck ride=9D u p to 4 weeks ahead of the date.=0ATo do it in your own plane you need aninstructor who is current on the Europa,I h ad to do mine recently on a Cessna 152 and of course the guy had to show mehow all over again !=0ARegards=0ABob Harr ison.=0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Iddon=0AS ent: 19 December 2009 15:54=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Europa-List:Currency=0A=0A =0AUk licensing requirements. Ihaven =99t flown for 12 months but I have over 500 hours experie nce on myTri Gear over six years. Is it alegal requiremen t in the UKthat I have to do my first flight on my ret urn with an instructor or just arecommendation. Co-ordinatingin structor/weather/airplane/daylight and myself is proving difficult. =0A =0ARichard Iddon G-RIXS=0A =0A =0A=0A -- Ple ase Support Your Lists This Month --=0A (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)=0A Click on=0A th e Contribution link below to find out more about=0A this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided=0A by:=0A * AeroElectric www.aeroelectric.com=0A * The Buil der's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com=0A * HomebuiltHELP w ww.homebuilthelp.com=0A=0A --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A =0A -Matt Dralle, List Admin.=0A=0A - The Europa-List Email Forum -=0A=0A=0A=0A - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -=0A=0A --> http://forums.matronics. =========================== =========================== =========================== =========================== = - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - =========================== =========================== ===0A=0A=0A =0A ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:53:57 AM PST US From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Re: vents In a message dated 12/20/2009 3:10:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, europa-list@matronics.com writes: Experiments clearly show that the air is escaping through the gear/flaps control level slot. How is it on trigears? I do not know. Hi Remi, There is no gear/flap control lever slot for the air to escape on a trigear, so it's not going out there. I can feel a slight air movement coming in at the holes for the seat belt attachments, though. I don't notice any air coming through or exiting my throttle slot or finger brake slots. I'm currently devising a method of closing off the flap tube slots in the fuselage when the flaps are up. That would leave the trim drive slots at the rear as the only place for the air to escape. Based on what I've seen on many racing gliders, this rear area is the best spot for the cockpit air to be exhausted for drag reduction. The claim is cockpit air moving back through the fuselage causes drag. Many of the hot dog glider racers will modify their gliders so that all the incoming cockpit air is captured and ducted with SCEET through the tail boom to the rear, usually exhausted at the rudder cable exit holes. I have seen one Aeronautical Engineer/glider racer pilot/US Team Member who fabricated slots at the root trailing edge of the wing and ducted the air to this area for discharge. Not sure if it does enough to be noticed, but I thought it was an interesting concept. Then again, contest class gliders are very evenly matched so that it is as close to pilot skill vs. pilot skill as it can be. The gliders are built to very specific design guidelines and they are weighed with the pilot in a flight ready condition just prior to the race. In some incidences water ballast is used to even things up. A few little tricks like this might give someone a slight edge, especially at high speeds. In races where the lift conditions are good throughout the course there is rarely more than 10-15 seconds time difference between first and fifth place finishers over a 150 mile course. Regards, John Lawton Whitwell, TN (TN89) N245E - Flying ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:46 PM PST US From: Jan de Jong Subject: Europa-List: Fuel tank installation without bonding it in Dear all, Unless somebody has a bright idea I think I have come to the end of planning to install the fuel tank without bonding it in. I now have a tightly fitting bed of 2 layers of bid and a quantity of 1/16" wool felt to line it with. Also epp padding for locking in to restrict movement up and forward. Yesterday I remembered belatedly that plastic moving on wool (and plastic on plastic) can lead to static charge buildup and sparks. I decided to investigate antistatic measures and ordered Graphit 33 by CRC Kontakt Chemie. Covering rubbing parts of the tank with this (after test) might solve the problem (if it is). Today I remembered, also belatedly, that sloshing fuel on the inside and a conductive layer on the outside is also not good - potential for sparks right through the tank wall. I am not contemplating spraying the inside of the tank with graphite... So I am at a standstill with this plan. The alternative will be bonding in according to the manual but with staggered bid layers, 3 layers of bid on the whole tunnel and low expansion urethane foam supporting the front bottom - as described by Ron Parigoris. (the front bottom support was also part of the bed and lock-in plan). What shall I do. 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